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Aibu to feel permanently damaged by divorce

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damaged · 15/07/2018 08:11

That’s how I feel. Horrible.

Ex and I are almost at the end of a difficult and traumatic divorce. We had been together for 21 years - 22 if you count the year the divorce has taken. Married for 16 of those.

I was a very late starter and he was my first boyfriend. Now it is difficult to remember how “pure” it all was because it has become tainted by the divorce, but for many years I loved him absolutely.

Things were sometimes up and down between us, but generally we were friends, and physically close.

Things started to go downhill I suppose about 13 years ago - my now 16 year old son many years ago told me that when he was 3, H wasn’t very nice to me. When my last dd was born 12 years ago, I remember telling a yoga teacher how H was not nice enough to me.

I was not perfect in the relationship, but H was the one with difficult, unreasonable behaviour.

Generally the problems morphed into the three things that I put on the divorce petition

  • complete lack of affection and interest
  • short temper and used to stonewall me for weeks after an argument - I would be going round with a knot in my stomach
  • made massive financial decisions all by himself, bought a property without telling me and hid it for almost a year until I found out, refused to put my name on any family asset, making me feel like an after thought in what was all “his” apparently.

The way the divorce happened was awful - it followed 8 months of being estranged but in the same house after he had yelled ARE YOU STUPID in such a horrible way across the room at me, and in front of my two dds who were frozen to the sofa. The look on his face was awful. Over nothing.

It took me months to get my courage together, but I eventually started divorce proceedings - and it then took another 10 months for ex to move out.

At first he was scornful, rude and dismissive about my letters from the solicitor asking him to go to mediation - I could “carry on playing my stupid games” he said. That summer he sold a property however, and not having answered numerous questions from the solicitor about it, or having vouched that he would keep that money aside until the divorce finances were sorted (as if he would ever have done that), she advised me to start financial remedy proceedings and take him to court. Which we did.

It is when he received the divorce petition (it is still very painful to remember the look on his face Sad), and then the court summons over finances, that he finally started to take things seriously. He then tried to manipulate me into stopping the whole thing and was nice for a bit - this was roughly in September of last year. I didn’t trust his attempts however, and some of the things he said (he would be dead soon and then everything would be mine was one of them) were weird. I had to fight against myself however, as I had been starved of affection for so long that I would have climbed back into bed with him.

When he realised I was sticking to my guns, he became very unpleasant and difficult and during the divorce said awful things to and about me. There were also several occasions where he was very verbally aggressive in front of one of the dds - which he stopped after my solicitor wrote to him about it, but I never knew if he was going to kick off or not.

The other thing that happened was that within two seconds of his realising that the divorce was going to go ahead, he was with someone else, and I had to endure weeks and weeks of hearing him on the phone very late at night for ages and ages. Also having showers getting ready to go out. He didn’t move out until April of this year but used to spend some nights a week elsewhere.

The upshot of the divorce is that the marital assets (though he didn’t disclose everything so who knows - and told the court lies about me) have been equally split. I am in the family home with the 3 dc and have very little money, he has different assets and more money which he has to amalgamate. He loved the family home and garden and must be bitter about this. It feels awkward to me too, that I am here.

Nothing is properly set up - he is still coming here a lot to see the dc as they don’t want to go where he is living. We don’t speak to each other at all. I am still trying to put the bills in my name and he did not agree to pay CM in court. When the bills are sorted the solicitor will again ask him - he will probably ignore it - and then I will apply to the CMS.

However I feel terrible. Like a pariah that he hates. I went out for about 4 to 5 hours yesterday to accommodate his being here with the dc. When I got back he was still here. When I sat down on the sofa, he got off the sofa that he was sitting on, said goodbye to the kids and left.

It feels really horrible to be hated this way. I think he now thinks of me as someone who only ever wanted “his” house, but that is not the case.

I had some very old photos developed yesterday - and there we were, ex and I, looking happy.

I just don’t think I am going to recover from all of this. I am trying to deal with the fallout with my kids too as they try to adapt. It feels shameful.

I have lots of things to sort, including getting a new job.

I can’t imagine meeting someone else, and anyway what I wanted was to get on better with my ex. I was in a changing room yesterday and I have some weight and cellulite to lose - it didn’t look good - why would anyone want me I was thinking. I am late 40s.

I feel sorry for the dc as they go through all of this. I didn’t want them to grow up thinking that our model of a marriage was a good one, but this feels shit too at the moment.

I don’t want anyone else in my kids’ lives, but I miss physical affection and was starved of it during the latter years of my marriage. Do I accept that it’s over? I have no real concept of how I look.

And still I feel that my ex and I should be together and this is all a massive aberration.

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damaged · 15/07/2018 08:16

And I fantasise that one day we will be together again Confused.

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Harry2006 · 15/07/2018 08:29

Going through the same. The only thing i can say really is your thoughts/feelings are perfectly normal and part of the grieving process. I look forward to the day i wake up and do not feel these horrible feelings but it takes time. Could he not see your children on neutral territory because you having to keep seeing him makes it harder to get over him. Hope someone comes with lots more advice for you.Flowers

Ellafruit1 · 15/07/2018 08:29

I don’t think you need to let yourself be permanently damaged by this. It’s a horrible experience to have gone through, but it is possible to heal from these things and find peace. You might still look back and feel sad or angry etc about it but it’s possible to reach a point where you’ve grieved and accepted what happened and found a way forward.

Focus on yourself for a while. Talk it all out as much as you can with trusted friends or find a good therapist. Talk talk talk through everything that happened and all the pain. Let go of him and begin to build a new life for you, do things that you want to do for you - get fit, hobbies, studying, focus on your career, go out with friends, enjoy life. In doing so you’ll figure out that you can provide everything you need for yourself and that you don’t need to pine after your ex or bring another man into your kids lives until you’re ready to find someone wonderful who can meet your needs.

Feelings pass when you let yourself feel them and talk through them. This doesn’t have to be a permanent pain but it will take some time for you to move past it. You’ll get there Flowers

ParisNext · 15/07/2018 08:40

I hope you've read your post back to yourself. It's well written and should clearly show you how proud you should be of your strength and resolve. What a dreadful man. In a year's time you will read the post again and feel very differently.
It's time now to start the next stage of your life with your dc and the first thing to do is sell the house and enjoy buying another one that is just yours however much smaller it might have to be. You will not move forward without doing this as you clearly said he loved the house and such an arrogant awful person will just swan in and out and continue to screw you up. Time to get your own front door. Why not take a 6 or 13 month rental to ease the pressure and you'd be in a better buying position. I've been in very similiar shoes OP but before I had children. You don't have to worry about your body etc right now. Growing in confidence by practical changes will reflect in your physical self. You. Red to crack on with the practical things now and really enjoy it. Good luck.

madcatladyforever · 15/07/2018 08:45

You will be fine. I've done this twice the last one very similar to you.
He has conditioned you to feel like shit all the time.
Once you are over him you will wonder how you ever put up with it or him and life will be great again I promise you.
Hopefully next time you will find someone who is not so abusive and deserves your love.

ohamIreally · 15/07/2018 09:42

These feelings are another step on your journey forward. You will recover from this even though scars will remain.

You have been very brave moving on and getting rid of this nasty man.

On a practical level I would recommend you not wait to contact the CMA as claims will only be backdated to the date of your application and every day you delay you are losing out.

I agree you should no longer let him into YOUR house and absolutely ensure he doesn't have a key. The kids are old enough to see him outside the house and will understand your reasons.

lifebegins50 · 15/07/2018 10:43

You have been in an abusive marriage and then hostile divorce which is traumatising so your reactions are normal. You will have been running on adrenalin and your stress levels high for so long that your body will need to learn "normal".

Emotional abuse is very damaging and takes a long time to recover from. I am 18months down the line and do feel better.However your situation with him coming to the house is intolerable for you.

Can you encourage the dc to see dad out of the house, maybe at a restaurant?
I think you need to put physical distance between you..I can't be around ex as he is so angry and it sets me back.

Well done on standing up to abuse, you deserve better and as painful as it is to go through divorce it is sometimes very necessary.

And still I feel that my ex and I should be together and this is all a massive aberration
I can relate to this, I think in some ways it's your brains way of protecting you, did this really happen, was he really like this?
We had such potential for a good life and on so many levels we worked but Ex's anger/abuse caused by his childhood abuse destroyed the family unit. Abuse isn't rational so that is why we often replay incidents as our minds try to make sense.
It is about power and your Ex will not want to lose, all you can do is focus on healing, take walks, mediate, do yoga.
You will rebuild but trauma takes times to recover from so just know it will not last forever.

damaged · 15/07/2018 10:44

Thank you.

I hope I won’t always feel like this because it isn’t nice.

I have painted ex in a bad light, and those aspects of his behaviour are all there, but he also has / had nice things, which I miss.

I think we got caught up in a very dysfunctional way of relating, and in the end I didn’t know how to fix it other than to “break” everything and re-set things that way.

I have considered selling the house, but it would be an unnecessary expense, and the dc are attached to it - it is close to their school as well.

It feels as if I am wading through mud and only making a tiny bit of progress at a time. There are only so many hours in a day and at some point I feel exhausted / a bit hopeless. The thoughts about everything and emotions flying about the house get in the way.

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damaged · 15/07/2018 10:45

Missed your post lifebegins - am reading it now.

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RainySeptember · 15/07/2018 11:01

I feel exactly the same op, and I'm years down the line.

I've tried counselling, antidepressants, exercise and throwing myself into hobbies and social situations but am still so unhappy.

My xh had an affair so I know I did the right thing, but I am so full of grief for the way we were and the future I expected to have.

I can't contemplate looking for anyone else. My experience has shown me that I can't trust my own judgement, that I'm easily deceived, that even the very happiest marriages can fall apart spectacularly. Who would want me anyway? Even the father of my children, my husband of decades, didn't want me. I'd just be waiting for him to let me down.

My xh is still nice to me. He's with ow now but still asks to come home. He shows me his best side now, and that's hard too.

I'm sorry op. I'm adding to the misery! But some comfort in knowing you're not alone maybe. Other people will be along with more useful advice I'm sure x

ohamIreally · 15/07/2018 11:03

Ellafruit has good advice. I do think when you are first out of a relationship you think about meeting someone else (as the ex men in our lives so often seem to do) to recreate the pattern of what has been lost.

The more you fill your life with things that you want to do, however, the less appealing a new (or the old) relationship appears.

I am still in our old home and will be for some time yet as it works on a practical level but am gradually changing things to make it more "mine".

Pluckedpencil · 15/07/2018 11:08

Your level of personal insight and factual nature of the account show you are really already well on the way. Imagine the divorce was a major heart operation (in many ways it is). You wouldn't be expect to be windsurfing the next week would you? But in a year or two, with the right self care, why not?!

damaged · 15/07/2018 13:44

Thanks for all your thoughts.

You will have been running on adrenalin and your stress levels high for so long that your body will need to learn "normal".

Yes, it’s exactly this.

I am sorry you are still so sad rainy - what do you mean your ex asks to come home? To live with you again.

I think ex does ask the dc to go out with him, but two of them especially just want to not move - in that teenage kind of way.

I have heard through tbem that ex is maybe planning to buy a house by the sea - about 1.5 / 2 hours from where we live. He often says off the cuff things that don’t happen, so it may not happen, but I caught myself thinking that that would be nice as we could all go for the weekends there. Me included ConfusedConfusedConfused.

The thing is though, I look ok for my age and sometimes quite nice, but I look so much older than I used to - who is actually going to want me?

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HollowTalk · 15/07/2018 13:54

I think it would be better to wait a while before trying to meet someone, because this man has screwed up your sense of what's normal and it would be terrible to get involved in another bad relationship.

I'd see the next couple of years as time for you and your children to heal. I think I'd join a gym or go swimming and encourage the children to do the same. I'd eat really healthily and I'd spend time with the children helping them to be happy. I wouldn't want my ex in my house like that - that must be really tough.

damaged · 15/07/2018 14:01

Yes I am not actively looking for someone - apart from anything else I would feel a bit ridiculous - like who does she think she is - the frumpy middle aged woman Confused Blush.

It’s more that I think it is too late, and that that’s it for me.

Yes I hope the house thing eventually stops as ex becomes more settled. It’s hard.

When I am a bit more sorted I will start with all the exercise plans - it sounds lovely. And especially making my focus the kids. If I do only that - trying to make sure they are as happy as possible - in the years to come, it will be worth it.

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HollowTalk · 15/07/2018 14:12

I was thinking that you could go to the gym while he's with the children. If he's seeing them in your house and you have to leave, then a gym or pool would be somewhere to go to that you could do something just for you.

damaged · 15/07/2018 14:14

Yes that would be nice. At the moment I have been going shopping, and I used to go and see a counsellor. Swimming sounds lovely.

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HollowTalk · 15/07/2018 14:19

Swimming is a great healer - it's almost like having a massage in a way. He thinks he's punishing you, too, by making you leave the house, so turn that on its head and do something that's a treat instead.

WinterSunglasses · 15/07/2018 14:49

Would it help to return to counselling, or find a new counsellor, to talk this through?

damaged · 15/07/2018 19:41

Yes I think it would. Maybe someone new, but I did like my last one.

The thing is though, maybe you never actually get over the trauma of divorce. I suppose I should try to remind myself how awful my marriage had got.

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Summersnake · 15/07/2018 19:53

I wish I was in your shoes op.i can see no way out

damaged · 15/07/2018 19:58

Why summersnake?

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pointythings · 15/07/2018 20:14

I think much of the damage you have sustained is not from the divorce, but from your marriage. Your OH sounds like a deeply unpleasant and emotionally abusive individual and you have had years of the effects of his behaviour. It's going to take time to recover. The hostile divorce won't have helped either.

Try to take a step away from thinking about how you 'should' feel and what you 'should' be doing. If you can't contemplate another relationship, just don't. It isn't about you being frumpy and middle-aged, that's just your lack of self-esteem talking. So before you think about another partner, learn to love yourself as you are again and learn to believe you are a good person. I can honestly recommend a mindfulness course - it's a very calm way of learning to manage your thoughts and feelings with acceptance and kindness to the self. One day you will wake up and realise you are genuinely happy without him in your life. However long it takes, that day will come. Flowers

arranfan · 15/07/2018 20:20

It's a woman who is older than you but asking similar questions and is featured in a (to me) decent piece in the Guardian that might be relevant to you: I've escaped a difficult marriage but started to doubt myself

Your emotional landscape has indeed been rocky these last few years and this is bound to take its toll. We can cope with things in the short-term, because dealing with what’s right in front of us (funerals, divorce lawyers, estate agents) takes up our immediate, practical attention. The emotional fallout comes afterwards, when life becomes more normal.

When people get together at a very young age, they can sometimes remain stuck, emotionally, where they were when they met. In some ways, you are still the teenager you were when you met your husband. You’ve been defined by your marriage for so long that it’s going to take time to rediscover who you are outside of it.

RandomMess · 15/07/2018 20:25

It sins like his behaviour has cause PTSD, I implore you to stop letting him in your home despite your DDs refusal to see him elsewhere.

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