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Sexless Marriage: Lonely and Depressed

11 replies

Goldygal · 14/07/2018 13:40

Hi everyone.

I'm needing some advice here. I've come to a fork in the road and not sure which way to go.

Married ten years, two gorgeous children. Hubby works hard and is kind and gentle. Helps around the house. Helps with the kids (I work four days per week). He's perfect in most ways, but...

He doesn't want to touch me.

We haven't had sex in four years, not since the birth of our last child. Prior to that, sex was every now and then. He was never into it. I was his first girlfriend (I'd been in a long term relationship before him) and his friends tell me he was always very awkward around women.

From the very beginning, there were never any kisses or cuddles. There's no affection. Never held or touched me during sex, just 2 elbows either side of my head and off he went. He has always slept on the far edge of the bed because he can't stand our limbs touching.

There's no holding hands, no casual contact whatsoever. When I bring up the lack of physical affection, I get "Well, that's what I was like before you married me." So I let it go.

I used to try so hard. Nice dinners, nights away. Compliments, making sure I kissed him goodbye before leaving for work. Snuggling next to him on the sofa, only to have him move away and maintain his distance.

In all honesty, I don't bother trying anymore. He's not interested. We're a sexless partnership. We might as well be roommates. He's happy to live like this but I can't function like this anymore. I don't want my boys growing up thinking that this is normal. There’s a major disconnect with him and our little boys, too. He rarely interacts with them or does meaningful things with them. No kicking balls around or bike rides. It’s like he can’t form connections with us, with friends and with work colleagues.

Hubby was diagnosed with ADHD last year (undiagnosed since childhood) . He also sees a range of health care professionals regularly for this and a severe social anxiety. He’s now medicated for the ADHD (Ritalin) and the anxiety.

I have a suspicion that the social anxiety has been misdiagnosed — the signs all point towards Aspergers Syndrome.

I don't really know where to go from here. He has a lot of stress in his life and I don't want to add to them for what may be petty reasons. I know he adores us. Having said that, hugging my pillows in bed at night can only get me so far. I'm really lonely.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated, especially from those in the same situation.

Thanks so much, guys.

OP posts:
happyfrown · 14/07/2018 14:11

Hi not quite the same but I have bpd and I don't really feel comfortable with contact. The rare times when I'm manic my ex used to get hugs and I'll sit closer to him! I too can't connect with people.
My ex put up with it but in the end I told him to leave and find someone who can appreciate him and his kindness. He did have bad traits but it was mainly me letting him free.

I've been told I sound like aspberger on here but diagnosed as bpd. So I think your right. He should get second opinion. But even if it comes back he is would it really make any difference to you feeling lonely?

I think if it's making you sad than maybe time to call it a day? But no one can tell you what's best. Only your own gut feeling.

Goldygal · 14/07/2018 23:13

Thanks so much for the reply.

That’s interesting re BPD. I’d never considered that. Sorry to hear about you and your ex, too.

Hubby is obsessed with work. Absolutely obsessed. He rarely sleeps more that three hours per night. Even when on holidays, he paces back and forth and can’t let go.

His psychiatrist only knows about the work obsession. The total emotional disconnect from family doesn’t get touched on because it’s not a problem from his end.

Just don’t know. He’d be absolutely shattered if I left.

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happyfrown · 14/07/2018 23:31

sorry to hear he isn't sleeping and the obsession, it must be hard on you too! I was a pain in the ass for my ex, he deserve a medal haha.

have you heard of Asexual? its someone who has no sexual attraction. im not 100% sure on it. have a quick google. my friend mentioned it to me a couple of weeks ago. never heard of it before that. although id say he sounds more aspergers. does he do eye contact? my sons friend has it and cant keep eye contact and is obsessed with travel and places.

what do you feel is best for both? whats your gut feeling? can you see yourself in 10yrs regretting not leaving or glad you stuck by?

I let my ex go because he wanted a family unit, he craved it. we didn't live together, he stayed few nights a week. we have a dd together so he got to see her too. but he wanted to move in and be one big family. I knew I couldn't commit to that (due to bpd) so I had to make a decision for what was best for him. he is young enough to find love again with some one who can give him better memories. if that makes sense.

bluetrampolines · 14/07/2018 23:35

You cant sacrafice your soul for anyone. Not even your husband. Especially your husband.

buckingfrolicks · 14/07/2018 23:40

Oh I'm so sorry OP that is so sad to read.

I have no comfort for you. My DP was vvv similar but a bit more buggy in the beginning. I tried everything possible from talking, crying, yelling, begging, lost weight, upped my interest and appreciation of him (I don't mean I tried as in manipulation but that over several years, I ended up in the above states). Despite promises to change, absolutely nothing changed.

I'm afraid I ended up having an affair with a single guy, which was horrendous as it made me feel 100x worse and confused and sad and guilty. Told my DP who was v kind and forgiving seeing the role he had played in this. Still nothing changed.

I love my DP but we became like friends and Co parents living under the same roof. I left, after 20 years, after living without sex or intimacy for 12 years. It was terribly damaging, I grew to almost hate him, and myself for my cowardice in staying.

Now I've left, (it's more complicated than this) we get on a zillion times better.

You will, I can promise you, lose your self confidence and joy. You will slowly feel less visible, less whole, and less likeable. If you masturbate it will make you feel increasingly grubby and desperate (nothing wrong with mastubating but that's what it did to me, in the end).

I do not envy you. I'm on the other side of the menopause now which has helped no end as for me that took away my sex drive. But I imagine I'll never now have sex again or be kissed and stroked and held naked. And that is something I try not to focus on.

buckingfrolicks · 14/07/2018 23:41

Huggy not buggy! Thankfully

ImPreCis · 15/07/2018 00:04

I have a friend who has a doctorate in HFA adults. Apparently it is incredibly common, particularly in males. Often patchy before children and non existent once the family is complete.
This knowledge doesn’t make it any easier to live with though.

Goldygal · 15/07/2018 00:53

Oh gosh @buckingfrolicks that’s devastating. This is the exact situation I’m worried about.

I do resent him. It is damaging my self esteem and confidence. I’m a school teacher. My job is to nurture and forster growth. I’m a nurturer by nature and get absolutely nothing in return and it’s slowly killing me.

I do feel invisible. I long to be held. He just wanders around in his little world, so disconnected from myself and the kids.

I’m so sorry you went through this. It’s never too late to find someone Flowers

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StrawberryLaces0 · 15/07/2018 06:52

Similar story here. Married 17 years, nothing in last 4/5 years and I grew to resent him terribly. Felt I was just there to do dinners and function as a mum. Didn't feel like a wife at all....no appreciation of me whatsoever, that I worked full time looked after the 2 kids, days without talking etc. In the end I just lived a separate life doing my own thing. But at home I was terribly lonely and felt depressed to the point of not wanting to be here as I didn't know what the right thing to do was. But I changed my thinking....I didn't want my kids seeing this is what a relationship was like and how their mum got treated. And more than that I didn't/couldn't live like this anymore, life is short enough. Fast forward and we are separated, he's actually moved abroad for work. I'm so much happier in myself. Not found anyone else yet, but hopeful to have a decent relationship sometime soon! It's important to feel valued, not just by your kids...

Goldygal · 15/07/2018 13:25

@strawberrylaces0 I'm so sorry you went through this. You have raised the exact points that I'm concerned about.

I'm worried I'll regret not leaving sooner. I'm 38. Life is short, indeed. Just want to be happy. He can't help the way he is. He's a darling man. We've never fought, never even raised our voices at one another, but then I'm probably too easy going — hence why things have gotten to the point they have.

So happy to hear things are going well for you, though.

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AnastasiaVonBeaverhausen · 15/07/2018 13:30

Do you think he could be gay? Or do you think there is behavioural stuff going on which points more towards ASD?

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