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So angry and not sure how to take back control

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Justtheonequestion · 13/07/2018 22:23

Sorry to be vague. I will explain as best I can.
I have a highly toxic ex-MIL whom I have distanced myself from over the last couple of years. I'm divorced and we don't see her son. We have some association through marriage and live in a small town where everyone is related in some way.
This person seems to be your best friend when the chips are down, but any success makes them furious and they will try to sabotage it. I'm talking telling you you aren't clever enough for uni, persuading you you're too incompetent to do a job. Basically, anything I want to do which will benefit my family, she will try and put me off.
I've tried to withdraw and give her nothing of my life or my kids and had succeeded for a couple of years but I utterly fucked up today. I came down from my bath to find her in my living room. She had made my autistic child let her in, and been sat there 20 mins on her phone, using my wifi. This person has form for going through my personal stuff, phone, computer, the works. I have tried to keep everything from her as she will save that information in her mind and use it either as gossip fodder or to use against me. She is particularly threatened by people having more money than her, so any income details are of huge interest to her. She will often ask how much I have saved, or 'where's all your money gone'. She's on benefits, but quite savvy with money and owns her small home. She can't get on with people below her, because she'd have to pay for them. But she won't make friends who are richer, because she's jealous. So she goes from family members house to house, bitching about other people's shortfalls.
I'm fuming she'd not tell me she's in my house, I feel quite violated (I'm probably being OTT but it's the lack of boundaries.) I'd arranged for her to come tomorrow, but I don't want her to now. Years ago, she'd stop for a week at a time and I hated it but couldn't find the nerve to say no. She never sleeps now.
Then, worse, and my own fault, I ended up somehow talking about my son's school success, and what I had done today, etc and realised exactly why I had stopped. She made a comment about how education isn't worth anything as people like 'us' are nothing and there's no point bothering. My kids are 'council house kids' and that's their level. She is extremely angry and bitter at others' successes. Fell out with a friend because she'd got another friend. Got annoyed with a neighbour with a 'posh' friend because she can't be arsed with stuck up people-they got the good life and hers wasn't. I am educated and don't earn brilliantly for health reasons, but have a status job. She often says I think I'm better than everyone else, and that I'm a snob, etc. I'm really not at all.
What should I do to take control back? It's not a person I can never see without total awkwardness. It may be easier to let them come tomorrow then set boundaries again Monday but then I'm pissed off I've given it. The only problem is that any drama feeds her huge dramatic victim tantrums.
She lies compulsively, for no apparent reason, puts the phone down mid conversation but that's 'just her'. Her friends are going away in the summer and I'm scared she'll dump herself here so I could do with advice too.
Thanks in advance.

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glitterfarts · 13/07/2018 22:30

Be out tomorrow. If she rings, just say "oh, you were round yesterday, I thought I must've mixed the days up, so I am doing today what I had planned for yesterday when you let yourself into my house."

Change your Wi-Fi password.
Change your locks. Have a chat to your son about not letting anyone else in and probably don't have a bath when the kids are awake.
How old is your DS? If she'd been there 20min your son was unattended quite a long time if he is little.

Justtheonequestion · 13/07/2018 22:33

He's nearly 14. But very socially inept. My youngest was in with me.
Don't need to change locks as she doesn't have a key.
She sells stuff on ebay and was getting people to meet her at my house! So I got it off her.
It reminds me I need to take all my documents from my kitchen drawer and lock them into the box I bought, and change my phone and laptop passwords as DS knows them to use them for school homework/to ring a friend.

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Justtheonequestion · 13/07/2018 22:35

You can't be too careful with her.

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Thebluedog · 13/07/2018 22:38

As a previous poster Dad, be out tomorrow, when she calls say you thought that as you’d seen her yesterday that you weren’t meeting up today.

Have a chat to your ds about not letting her in the house or always asking you first before I locked my the door

Then go NC with her, ghost her if necessary but dont engage at all. She sounds a nightmare

JuliaJaynes9 · 13/07/2018 22:38

Grey rock technique!
She sounds absolutely dreadful 🤨

Rozzzzzalmost35 · 13/07/2018 22:41

She sounds awful. Why do you have her in your life? X

Justtheonequestion · 13/07/2018 22:43

I will but he will find it hard that his grandma is someone he trusts. I have sheltered my kids from the toxicity, they really aren't aware. I don't want to go out, my boys won't want to as we like to chill on a Saturday. I think I'll just text her and say that because I've seen her twice this week, and we are at a wedding sunday, that tomorrow I just want a day at home with the kids.
She is awful. NC would be great, I just don't want the ballache.
I had grey rock perfected but fucked up royally today as I was shocked, when I should have just told her to fuck off. I'm actually frightened of her anger. She's very sly and nasty. If I've pissed her off before she's threatened to call the police if I contact her.

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pallisers · 13/07/2018 22:44

She sounds awful. He is an ex, why isn't she.

Just say no, ignore, smile politely if you meet in company/town. text her now and say "sorry can't meet tomorrow something came up". And that something can keep coming up for the foreseeable future.

BunsOfAnarchy · 13/07/2018 22:45

What the fck?!
Tell her in the nicest way to just go fuck herself and fuck off!
You'll let her see the kids on YOUR terms outside of your home because your humble abode is too 'council house' for her.
Dont let her try to be so abusive to you.

Stand up for yourself. Dont ever allow her in your home again.

Jeez I've never been this pissed off reading about a MIL before!

Justtheonequestion · 13/07/2018 22:48

She doesn't think council house is too good for her. I'm moving to another house, bought. She's fucked off I am mobilising to a better area. She's always been in council homes-nothing wrong with that so have I.

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LadyLoveYourWhat · 13/07/2018 22:50

I know it's just a side issue, but please think about creating another account on your laptop for your son, you log out and he logs in when he needs to do homework, much, much safer.

Justtheonequestion · 13/07/2018 22:52

yes good point lady. its my work laptop too so totally private stuff.

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BunsOfAnarchy · 13/07/2018 23:35

If I've pissed her off before she's threatened to call the police if I contact her.

Tell her you'll do the same if she turns up unexpected ever again.

She may be their grandma but they are young and impressionable so such toxic people should be kept at an arms length.

I guarantee if u tell her u just want a day at home with the kids she will still turn up. Tell her you're out. Better still, be out.

Armchairanarchist · 13/07/2018 23:41

You're a saint. I'd have either told her to fuck off or be feeding her the most elaborate lies I could think of.

RabbitsAreTasty · 13/07/2018 23:49

I have sheltered my kids from the toxicity, they really aren't aware.

Well that's a dumb thing to do. You let them hang out with a right nasty shit of a person and hide the fact that she's a loon from them. I wonder what horrible crap she's saying and doing to them that they can't tell you because obviously you think she is lovely and normal and thus it is themselves who must be wrong/bad/deficient for being hurt by her.

Seriously, telling a child that a tiger is a kitten might make them happier to play with the tiger but is that really what you want?

JuliaJaynes9 · 14/07/2018 01:29

I agree with Rabbits if this women is a danger to you (you say you are frightened of her) then she is a danger to your children and if they trust her she will absolutely use them to get at you

Justtheonequestion · 14/07/2018 09:09

No seriously she is never alone with them. But i think nc is going to be the way to go. Im stupid in that i let my guard down. I should have gone mad yesteeday.
Ive had a word with my son and have changed my phone password.

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Justtheonequestion · 14/07/2018 09:11

She isnt dangerous just nasty and i fear her moods. Not physically. Last night i was reminded of the true her. Im going out today. Will see her at wedding tomorrow then ignore ignore ignore. I dont want a huge scene which there will be and will discuss her not coming when kids at school.

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Whatiwishfor · 14/07/2018 09:33

She sounds a bit like my stbxh. I too use the gray rock theory. Dont beet yourself up about slipping and giving too much information i think a lot of us do it. Go back to being boring and saying very little.
Can i ask why do you stay in contact with her? she unfortunate just sounds toxic

Justtheonequestion · 14/07/2018 09:38

I dont know. I never contact her. She just keeps coming/ringing. I get on with her daughter so it would be v awkward if i didnt talk to her but tbh shes fucked my life up so bad in the past (stole money, treated my mum terribly before she died) that i'm blind to it now.

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Flisspaps · 14/07/2018 09:40

@Justtheonequestion you say she's never alone with your DC, but she was - you've no idea what she has said to DS whilst you were in the bath not knowing she was there.

TellsEveryoneRealFacts · 14/07/2018 09:44

Not being funny, but your son should not be on your work laptop at all.

Justtheonequestion · 14/07/2018 09:54

Fliss thats why im so fucked off.
Tells i know

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TellsEveryoneRealFacts · 14/07/2018 09:55

For reasons being, he is not the one that signed the IT statements and I have known people get the sack for what their child accessed online through the work laptop.

Justtheonequestion · 14/07/2018 09:57

Ok yes, good point. Thanks

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