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His friend is really getting to me and i feel terrible.

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FeelingReallyLost · 27/05/2007 21:15

I feel like there is always a shadow over my relationship with my partner. (I am calling him partner rather than bf as we're engaged to be married, although we don't live together, but all plans to move in together as soon as possible, circumstances permitting).

He has a female friend. Now I have no problem whatsoever with this per se. I know that he knew her about a year before he knew me. From what I can gather, they met during a rough time in her life and he gave her a lot of support. He tells me that he did "have a thing" for her then but nothing ever happened as she didn't feel the same. Apparently when he told her he had met me though, her reaction was somewhat explosive and she as good as said she was interested in him.

This didn't bother me either at the time although I thought it a bit odd that he laughed it off, personally if I'd have been him I would have hoped my friend would be happy for me and slightly annoyed that they weren't.

Then one night more or less at the beginning of our relationship, when he was staying over with me she phoned him in the early hours. He didn't answer it but I was a bit miffed when the next day he told me she had contacted him since and had just wanted a chat?.at 1.30am? It had caused a row, not a huge row but still spoilt our time together (which is few and far between, we don't see each other very often due to distance). He said he had told her this and it wouldn't happen again. But it has, over and over again, nearly every time we have seen each other in fact. Apparently she wont contact him for weeks when he's at home, and then suddenly he will get the phone call when he's staying with me. My opinion was that she obviously knows when he's with me, (pretty regular arrangement) knows it will cause a row and still does it. Every call seems perfectly timed. Seems she's either doing it to purposely cause trouble or simply doesn't care if it does.

He doesn't agree, doesn't think she would do anything like that. Its worse that he will never answer the phone and tell her he's with me, it makes me think he has something to hide. I told him this. The last time she did it I made him answer the phone and although he told her he was with me she still carried on chattering away and didn't seem to want him to go. (Then phoned back 5 minutes later). He always has his phone on his person and hides it at night.

I don't for one minute think they are up to anything physical, they are hundreds of miles away from each other. But I feel like he has no respect for my feelings whatsoever. She is his golden girl and anything I say is shrugged off. He constantly sticks up for her, wont give me any explanation as to why its acceptable for her to keep doing this "its complicated", clams up when I try to explain how I feel. He's quick to cast a disapproving eye on a lot of things I do yet even when he's told me he's pissed off with her for keep ringing, he says nothing to her about it. I heard the way he talks to her when he answered the phone that once. I understand that he isn't going to tell me about her life, that's none of my business and I wouldn't want or expect him to break a confidence but this has been going on for nearly a year.

The pair of them are making me feel like shit. Like I am nothing. Not important enough for anyone to respect my feelings. I feel like they are sniggering behind my back.

All I asked was this: that he asked her not to call when he was with me, not because of who she is but because we don't get to spend a lot of time together. (My friends are mostly female and without my having to ask, they don't call me when he's here, they respect our privacy). I don't think this is an unreasonable request. She has all week, every week to call him.

He is hypocritical I feel. I have been accused several times of being "up to something" (not in those exact words but he questions my whearabouts a lot) just because he's rung and for whatever reason I haven't answered the phone (bathing kids, went to shop, in the bath), and yet its ok for his friend to ring him at any given hour, no matter where or what he's doing?

(During a disagreement this weekend, I told him to ring her and sort it out. His reply "no, her bf is there and it will cause an argument between them"). WTF?

He doesn't seem to realise that this is chipping away at our relationship, that every time it happens just makes it worse. I have been extremely depressed of late, have a lot of other problems going on. I feel terrible 90% of the time but he doesn't seem to take it seriously. He has lots of sympathy for his friend though, whatever is happening in her life.

I've always thought that friends should come first but this is too much, surely when its starting to affect a relationship then some sort of compromise should be reached?

I didn't post this in AIBU because I'm feeling a little too fragile at the moment to be slapped with harsh replies of the pull yourself together type. So be gentle.

I don't want to be called a doormat, because I'm anything but and he puts up with a lot from me, and he's also a very good man who does a lot for me. Its just on this one issue we seem to have locked horns. No slating of him or her please. I have nothing against her at all, i have no reason to, but why would she want to keep phoning him when he's with me?

If i'm the one with the problem, please tell me.

and thank you for reading this far

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mummytosteven · 27/05/2007 21:23

Hmmmm - I don't actually agree with couple time being sacrosanct, so friends should not call. But that aside it does sound like he is behaving rather unreasonably or tbh a bit suspiciously, in particular not saying if he is with you. I wouldn't like this one little bit.

PregnantGrrrl · 27/05/2007 21:30

i wouldn't like it either, it sounds 'fishy' to me in a way. Of course men and women can be just friends, but i don't have friends who ring at unsuitable hours, and neither does DP. She can at least ring at a decent hour- and what's going on with him not answering if you are there?

He should put his foot down with her, out of respect for you.

rowan1971 · 27/05/2007 21:32

You say don't slate him, but... he's being totally unreasonable, and she's being nasty. This is a critical juncture in your relationship (pre-marriage), and now is not the time to let him get away with this. You need to stand firm: he turns his phone off when he gets into bed with you. If he wants to leave it on, he gets up, packs his stuff and goes home.

As his wife-to-be, you are absolutely entitled to insist on this. She has no right whatsoever to be ringing him in the middle of the night - it's mad. Fair enough that he doesn't want to divulge her secrets, but in that case he can hardly expect you to put up with all this for the sake of a woman you barely know.

teafortwoandtwofortea · 27/05/2007 21:38

I love my DH, lovely bloke and generally quite bright - but he had a 'friend' a bit like you describe. I got so pissed off with it all I did a 'right, her or me' thing. He could never see see it but she was so obviuously trying to undermine us. Weird thing was that she really didn't want him as it were, but didn't want anyone else to have him.

Anyway, what happened was he picked me, because he loves me and he wanted to marry me. If you give your fiance the same choice and he doesn't pick you, at least you'll know where you stand. As is probably obvous from the stand I took, I really don't think you can be married to a man who doesn't put you first. Sorry if that sounds a little harsh, but deep down, you probably already know that - it's just finding the strength to act on your belief - good luck.

controlfreaky2 · 27/05/2007 21:39

you need to sort this out before you move in together / get married etc.

FeelingReallyLost · 27/05/2007 21:40

mummytosteven. I agree, re couple time with what you say. But she knows we only see each other for one night, twice a month. So to call on that one particular night and not in the rest of the week, doesn't seem like much of a coincidence to me

I am however a suspicious person by nature so i could be way off.

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teafortwoandtwofortea · 27/05/2007 21:41

(and as an aside, the only relationship I was in where I was accused of cheating in an indirect way but a lot, I discovered after I'd dumped him that it was he who was the cheat - false accusations following a guilty conscience IMO)

BeachBunni · 27/05/2007 21:42

Hmmm. My bf is a pretty sociable person and has a lot of female friends - including ones he used to go out with and is still pretty close to. I think I would be a bit miffed too if they started ringing in the early hours of the morning.

Sounds to me a bit like she doesn't really want to be with him but no-one else can have him. It could be that she's a bit jealous of you possibly taking his friendhip away from her. Especially if he's been there for her during a really difficult time.

I would tread very carefully so it doesn't ruin your relationship. Can you not even ask him to turn off his phone while he's with you? Or even take the bull by the horns and maybe get a chance to meet her? You may find out you both get on. Play it cool infront of him so you don't come across as possessive.

It is a difficult situation and I kind of know where you're coming from in that my bf's friends are constantly ringing or calling at the door so we never get a minutes peace. It can be an intrusion at times.

rowan1971 · 27/05/2007 21:42

Either she knows what she's doing, and she's being a complete ***, or she's utterly self-absorbed and selfish. Whichever it is, you are entitled to make a big fuss about this.

FeelingReallyLost · 27/05/2007 21:45

She only rang at a silly hour once. Usually its a pretty decent time. But the fact he wont answer it and acts cagey is what has been getting to me.

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FeelingReallyLost · 27/05/2007 21:50

I understand the friendship bit too and would never dream of taking that away, but i'm the one whose relationship is being ruined because of this. I have no desire to know her secrets, i dont know her.

Sometimes, most times actually i wonder if he's only with me because she didnt want him and whether im right or wrong about that, it eats away at me.

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rowan1971 · 27/05/2007 21:50

Oh. My outraged responses were based on her ringing in the middle of the night all the time!

Still, the fact remains that you should be his priority, especially if you are depressed. I have a lot of male friends to whom I'm very close, but I would never do something to make their wives uncomfortable. Equally, if I did make their wives uncomfortable, they would tell me about it pretty quickly. His responsibility is to you, not her. If he doesn't want to make that explicit to her, then there's something up.

What do you mean when you say 'I heard the way he spoke to her'?

BeachBunni · 27/05/2007 21:54

Maybe she'd had a couple of drinks when she rang him that night. My bf has had calls and texts like on a saturday night. I know it's not the done thing but tbh I would look at his phone. I know, I'm a bad person but would be worried if he was cagey.

teafortwoandtwofortea · 27/05/2007 21:54

I have a few questions if you don't mind (don't answer if you do) - how long have you been together? how old are you both? and how much of a relationship does this man have with your children?

Also, have you actually met this woman and if you're getting married is she coming to the wedding?

FeelingReallyLost · 27/05/2007 22:02

Together a year, im in my 30s he's in his 40s. Relationship with my kids is wonderful, they love him.

Rowan, one minute he was ranting to me how unnaceptable it was for her to be ringing so late after weeks of no contact and then he's using a sugary sweet voice to her asking how she is.

My immediate thought was that he very rarely rants about anything (he's very peaceful) and if I had pissed him off that much i would have known about it.

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teafortwoandtwofortea · 27/05/2007 22:07

no offence intended but as year of 2 weekends a month isn't a long time at all. Has he been single a while - used to his own way as it were?

Are you going to have some proper time living together before tying the know, see how much of an issue this really is. If I were you I certainly wouldn't do anything right now that tied me to him financially just in case this issue is bigger than you originally thought.

I think your first post btw was very good at showing your feelings, any chance you could give it to him to read?

rowan1971 · 27/05/2007 22:10

Was the ranting for your benefit?

Does he like to feel needed? Maybe the girl's poor-ickle-me act makes him feel wanted?

Who knows what the truth is - but I agree with teafortwo - you shouldn't proceed with the marriage until you feel more sure about his commitment to you, and to the relationship.

FeelingReallyLost · 27/05/2007 22:15

No offence taken teafortwo. Absolutely no chance of living together at the moment. We both have too many responsibilities where we are.

Wedding isn't planned so don't panic! . He would like to do things quickly, whereas i have doubts that need to be smoothed over before im willing to uproot. I dont like taking chances.

He also knows my feelings, i've tried to talk but it always ends up in an argument.

Im really not sure he wants me for the right reasons.

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FeelingReallyLost · 27/05/2007 22:21

I dont know rowan, perhaps. I'm not too good at doing the needy thing.

If he wants needy, he shouldn't be with me

Im more ranty than needy. I rant, then i sort things out.

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rowan1971 · 27/05/2007 22:23

Good for you

Needy girls are big sillies

I think you need to lay it on the line to him.

FeelingReallyLost · 27/05/2007 22:34

Im quite convinced he thinks im just using it as an excuse to argue, im not. I'm really unhappy. It just doesn't seem to be sinking in.

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