Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Just broke up, please help me to evaluate the situation before I go crazy

44 replies

catbasilio · 30/06/2018 04:05

Had a good relationship with bf of 2 years, except some trust issues - found him on a dating site 9 months ago and offering (unsuccessfuly) sex to a woman, he of course minimised and said it was never meant to materialise, it was a mistake and never going to happen again. Also some issues with his fb female friends, where his story didn't add up but I put it down to some level of flirting without going further. I nearly dumped him over the dating site issue, but later slowly regained trust (not without intensive questioning at times which he was happy to answer). Other than that, all good, he was loving, caring etc. (also has a tendency of white lies).

He has his legal battle going on to get access to his children. Over the 2 years I've known him he's lost his contact from regular to none, according to his ex his kids don't want to see him, according to various report he's bitter emotions for marriage breakdown (4 years ago) transpire into the communication with his DC and poison it. It is clear that him and ex hate each other, although none of them bad individually, and the kids are caught up in the turmoil.

He asked me to go to the court with him. So I can tell (given opportunity) that he is brilliant with my DC. I went. His ex approached me and in short three minutes cried out her eyes, saying how vile he is, how DC suffer because of him, how he does not stop pestering etc. She said she feels sorry for me and wouldn't let my kids anywhere near him. In addition, she added, 9 months ago he was on the dating site and tried to pursue her friend, she mentioned name and it wasn't the one I knew. I went into total shock and ended up breaking up with him as soon as we came home. I told him what his ex told me, that I knew bits of it already but the extent seems to be much bigger and I am done, and I left.

A day later, started feeling some regret (naturally) and texted him saying I wished I was never in that court. He told me I believed his ex lies, I did not defend him and I let him down and crumbled under pressure, his ex played me and successfully broke us up so now he is done with me. And blocked me after this.

So from feeling vicious about him cheating (because the timing and details matched of what I partially already knew), I went being blamed and feeling guilty that I misjudged the situation and believed his ex'es lies.

I just sent him an an email saying sorry for my mistake and I love him and it's been only a day since and can we please not to give up. This will be my only email to him.

Part of me is thinking I made a massive mistake of mistrust (due to history). Another part of me thinking he has manipulated me in feeling guilty and make it feel as it is all my fault.
I am also gutted that he is not attempting to correct his ex'es sttement and fight for us, but simply letting our 2 year solid relationship go and allowing "ex to achieve her mission to break us up".. Just 2 days ago he was telling me how much he loves me and how lucky he is to have me.

Something does not sit right and I am going from feeling terribly guilty for screwing the relationship like in 5 minutes, then thinking it is gaslighting and manipulation and I have a mug written all over mug forehead.

Where do I go from here? (not much I can do apart waiting)

OP posts:
catbasilio · 30/06/2018 04:23

Just thinking again, so he knew her ex is vile and would tell lies according to him, so he knowingly fed me to the wolf knowing I am very peaceful by nature and then done with me as soon as I didn’t stand up to her and in fact believed the extra cheating part when I knew the main dating website part was correct.

OP posts:
catbasilio · 30/06/2018 04:24

He also said I was an easy target for his ex and I fell for it.

OP posts:
Coughy · 30/06/2018 04:26

You are incredibly naive. He is a sleazy cheat. Should have dumped him so long ago. Hes not the only man out there you know?! No doubt you will go back to him and it will restart again.....

catbasilio · 30/06/2018 04:27

Fair enough I broke up and he is done with me but not taking into account my humiliation in front of her ex also hurts and totally overlooked it..

OP posts:
ApolloniaC · 30/06/2018 04:28

Sounds like you've dodged a bullet. Run. Plenty of men out there without all that drama!

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 30/06/2018 04:29

From my own personal experience of the court system a dad will often have contact even if it's proven they are saying and doing quite unpleasant things.
I would generally be wary of someone who had lost contact like this and I would feel used if asked to use my own children as some kind of petri dish for his parenting skills.
However I'm aware that some dads really are denied contact for spurious reasons so I would keep an open mind it all else seemed OK maybe.
(In reality though there are plenty of potential partners without this history so someone in this situation wouldn't be my first choice)
However he's shown you who he is with the cheating.
Grim.
You can do so much better.

catbasilio · 30/06/2018 04:30

Coughy better naive than keep blaming myself for failing to believe him when he needed it most.

OP posts:
MountainPeakGeek · 30/06/2018 04:31

Agree with both previous posters. You are well rid and it is clear to anyone and everyone who isn't too close to the situation to see clearly that that is the case.

Cantsleeptooloud · 30/06/2018 04:32

He's a vile nasty man. Find some self respect. He's ended it cos you've found out the truth from his ex, he knows he can't come back from that and the games up. He just won't admit it and has instead turned it on you.

Keep away from him and consider it a lucky escape and higher your standards. If a man is with you he is with you, not looking for sex with other women.

catbasilio · 30/06/2018 04:36

Thanks need to hear this.

OP posts:
sleep5 · 30/06/2018 04:37

if you go back he'll think if you as weak and continue sleeping around. You need to get rid and move on. Don't waste your life on this creep.

ApolloniaC · 30/06/2018 04:38

Honestly it would take alot for any woman to approach ' the new girl' and start crying and coming out with that stuff. She probably wasn't making any of it up. He sounds truly awful. Sleazebag.

Bumpitybumper · 30/06/2018 04:54

I believe her (the ex).

The fact that she mentioned the dating site and your partner's reaction to you dumping him following her outburst makes me think she's genuine. I think you know this instinctively too but his attempts to manipulate you into believing he is the victim of his "crazy ex" are almost working.

If I were you I would be keeping myself and my children away from him. You need time to heal and gain some objective perspective. He isn't the man you thought he was and still so desperately wish he could be. Even if his ex was indeed a complete liar and everything your partner suggested, that does not excuse him being on dating sites whilst in a relationship with you or treating you so cruelly when you have been subjected to such an outburst from his ex that would make most people question their partner's integrity. In short, you are worth more than this!

MountainPeakGeek · 30/06/2018 04:56

ApolloniaC is 100% correct, imho. You heard the truth from his ex - not lies. What you discovered by yourself has been confirmed by her. H is version is the contradiction.

MountainPeakGeek · 30/06/2018 04:57

*his version

thebewilderness · 30/06/2018 05:07

You do not have a two year solid relationship.
You spent two years being conned by a liar and a cheat.
You know he can't be trusted so when his ex told you what you already knew, boom.
He will probably let you stew a while and then accept your groveling apology for not believing his lies.
He made their life hell for years and you went to court to help him make it even more hellish?
Block him every way you can so you do not fall for it again. Then read the book "Why Does He DO That" so you won't get fooled again.

Tooohot · 30/06/2018 05:07

Agree that he knows he has been caught out, hence his reaction.

BunnyCarr · 30/06/2018 05:11

How these loser men are able to collect female victims, as they shit on every single one of them, is beyond me.
Grim.

Anniegetyourgun · 30/06/2018 05:44

You know he lies, you've seen it for yourself. You also know he cheats. You only "know" she lies because he - the known liar - told you so. You have other sources telling you he is not kind or wise in his dealings with his children - not just his account that his ex is alienating them. As for the alleged cheating, who joins a dating site only to give up at the first rebuff? Logically, how likely is it that he only approached the one woman you already knew about?

Let's face it, you have more reason to believe the woman you met for a few minutes than the man you dated for two years. You don't know she tells lies, you do know he does.

Run away, run away.

Coyoacan · 30/06/2018 05:54

She sounds nice that she was concerned about you and your children, actually. I don't think "evil bitches" normally take that tack.

BlancheM · 30/06/2018 06:04

You've been badly manipulated. Your man is bad news. He's got you right where he wants you at the minute, crumbling and apologising to him. Crazy!
Please reread everything you've written here as if you're reading about someone else and see what you think.

madeyemoodysmum · 30/06/2018 06:19

My ex was an amazing lair and serial cheat.
I'm afraid your bf is ringing the same alarm bells for me. Don't dismiss the ex
Go by gut feeling. I assume you know deep down he is no good but your hoping we will persuade you otherwise.

Run while you can and look for a trust worthy man.

SoddingUnicorns · 30/06/2018 06:34

I believe her. He has given you absolutely no reason to trust him (more than once), has limited/no contact with his kids despite court and his ex seems absolutely desperate to protect her children (backed up by court reports!) and also knew the exact time frame of when he was on dating sites???

OP I know you’re hurt, but can you not see that it’s so obvious he is lying and the reason you copped all that anger is that you didn’t play his little game like a good little puppet and do as you were told. Instead, you did the right thing.

You’re well rid. Block him on EVERYTHING and move forward with your life, because you’ve dodged a bullet.

NotClear · 30/06/2018 06:44

It wasn't two solid years, he was looking to cheat on you. Whether he did or not is immaterial; it was in his mind and he took steps by joining websites.

I have no reason to doubt the Ex. It's too much of a coincidence she would choose to lie about the same dating website that you know he joined.

And of course he got angry and said she lied. People don't like to get found out! I would strongly advise you leave well alone. And in time you'll look back and be thankful you escaped wasting 4 years on believing something is 'solid' when it's not.

fluffyrobin · 30/06/2018 07:31

Omg one should always take up an opportunity to hear what ex wives have to say about their former partners and there should be a register of domestic abusers.

Why anyone would try to formalise a monogamous relationship with a serial cheater is beyond me!

Do these women actually believe they are somehow special?!

Swipe left for the next trending thread