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LTB over this?

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Ceruleanblue0 · 24/06/2018 19:41

Namechanged for this.

We’ve been married 2 years. In our thirties, no children.

In my twenties I was in an abusive relationship which escalated into violence and culminated with an apprehended violence order. Due to this history I’m jumpy about any signs of physical aggression in relationships.

My DH is not controlling and there have never been any red flags of an abusive personality.

But. On two occasions he has been aggressive towards objects during arguments (overturning a small table, throwing something). I made it very clear to him on the second occasion that I will NOT tolerate any aggressive acts in an argument because of my previous experience of violence. It’s a hard line for me. DH agreed that his behaviour was completely out of line, and promised he would never do anything like it again. I told him that if it keeps happening, I will pursue a separation. He agreed this would be a reasonable response to his unreasonable actions.

Well, it’s happened again. Last evening during an argument he kicked over the coat rack.

I’m torn on whether I should follow through with what I said about separating. I feel if I stay, it’s just going to keep happening, and may escalate into aggression towards me (violence towards objects is considered one of the precursors of DV). I don’t want to start feeling like I’m walking on eggshells around someone who can’t control their temper. Been there, done that.

But at the same time - it was just a coat rack.

Aside from this our relationship is pretty good. We do argue occasionally, but not more than other couples I think.

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arranfan · 24/06/2018 23:18

"I told him that if it keeps happening, I will pursue a separation. He agreed this would be a reasonable response to his unreasonable actions."

You were clear. Has he packed his bags to stay anywhere while he clears his head and considers options such as contacting an anger counsellor? That's a separation with a view to working on this and having more conversations.

It might depend on what you mean by separation.

But, you'd both agreed that this behaviour wasn't reasonable and it doesn't sound like he's pursued any form of support to assist him in responding in a better way.

SandyY2K · 25/06/2018 01:11

If you don't follow through...he'll think you never will.

You warned him. He agreed it was reasonable...yet he's done it again.

Perhaps he can get help (therapy) once you separate and you can decide if he's changed.

Costacoffeeplease · 25/06/2018 01:15

What’s the point of an ultimatum if you don’t follow it through? You only get one chance, you can’t keep saying ‘this is the last time’ otherwise it’s meaningless

ReliefOfChaos · 25/06/2018 04:20

The crazy thing is if you leave you're reasonable, but if you don't you were just making empty threats to control his behaviour and that's very unreasonable.

AndTheBandPlayedOn · 25/06/2018 04:42

Yes, leave, and that would be for anyone-prior abusive relationships or not. The coat rack is irrelevant, his uncontrollable anger is the issue.

Maelstrop · 25/06/2018 06:56

If you don’t leave, even temporarily, he’s going to carry on thinking you’re allowing the behaviour. Are you bringing children into this relationship? Please read the other thread on this section about the dh who does exactly the same.

rollingonariver · 25/06/2018 07:22

Have you considered counselling ? For your husband I mean?

tictac86 · 25/06/2018 07:41

Leave or ask him to leave for a few days to think straight and weigh it all up. You really do have to follow through on what you say. Im sorry this has happened and i hope your ok

seven201 · 25/06/2018 08:20

If I were you I'd insist he leave for a bit and get anger management therapy. You were very clear and he needs to change for you. You're not asking for a lot.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 25/06/2018 08:29

This sounds like the start of a downward spiral. If you don't insist he leaves he'll just get worst. Throwing or banging things is physical intimidation and don't think he doesn't know that.

I'm an AA member (25+ years) and we have something called the yets. So - he hasn't hit you. Yet. But if you carry on down this path, he will do. I'm no gambler, but I'd put money on it. If you make an ultimatum you have to stick with it.

ferando81 · 25/06/2018 09:16

You only give ultimatums if you are prepared to carry them out.The worrying thing is that he didn't have the control to count to ten .
What have the arguments been about?

Ceruleanblue0 · 26/06/2018 10:34

Thanks to everyone who replied. All good advice.

We had a conversation about it last night. He’s agreed to go to counselling in the hope that he can pick up some strategies to better manage his anger.

I do feel it is important to follow through with what I said about separating, so he understands how serious this is. I’m going on a work trip which will take me away for a good part of the summer, and later, I have some family visiting the area and can stay with them. I will use these opportunities as a way to take time out of the marriage. I also initiated a discussion about what would happen if we did formally separate (splitting assets etc) because this is what will happen if he doesn’t get a grip on his anger problems.

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pissedonatrain · 26/06/2018 11:56

How far apart were the 2 aggressive incidents?

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