Lying to CMS out of spite

[Pinkdalmatian]

Ex has told CMS he’s earning around £150 a month. Total lies, he works full time - tried a mandatory reconsideration last month which was declined due to insufficient evidence (? .. aren’t they meant to find the evidence?!) but as it’s been the annual review I can appeal again. Any advise? Not sure if it’s worth appealing again when I’ve told them he works full time, and the type of work how many hours etc.. what more evidence could I be expected give?!

We have no contact and he’s trying to get out of paying out of spite, not financial difficulty. So works out he will pay around £2-3 a week for DD. he lives with family so has low rent/bills.

Gillybeanz- I actually contacted his family to see if they wanted to know DD. A couple showed some interest after initial shock but nothing came of it - he told me previously he’d told them all and none wanted to meet her but once his true colours showed I knew it was all lies.

He brought it up a few months later saying apparently They all thought I was insane - for messaging to see if they knew about DD and wanted to know her. One of them told me he has told them I was crazy, a liar, all the usual so maybe the rest believed him.. hard to pull the ‘she’s my crazy ex’ story when you’re on child #3/4 or more

Lizzie - I have been on at them for over a year now. Last payment was around a year ago and I’ve phoned once or twice a month since.. tried collect and pay which didn’t work.. it’s all just a load of shit, feels like a never ending nightmare. Don’t think I have the emotional energy to keep pursuing it like this for the next 15 odd years, it brings up so much stress and anxiety but struggling financially so don’t feel like I have the option of dropping the case knowing something might eventually be done

I have gone through a successful tribunal (he didn't turn up) keep going!

Ex is self employed, I used pictures from public events on FB and a picture of his recycling bin full of whiskey bottles to show his earns declared didn't match his lifestyle

Outofmydepth - I can imagine him not turning up to the tribunal.. I just don’t have any hard evidence of him working which is really frustrating as I know he loves working and wouldn’t ever be out of a job. Do you think I can still have any kind of case without proper evidence - would me saying he’s told me multiple times about work, working full time/long hours be enough?

I do want to take it to the tribunal but don’t want to go through that if it’s likely nothing will come of it. My anxious mind has now thought of 1000 things which could go wrong

i did have a semi-rant at the CMS yesterday asking i thought it had changed to the CMS from CSA so that they would have more "teeth" to get the money and have more success,they couldnt answer

it makes me so so mad,the GOV had a fantastic chance to really change things regarding creating the CMS and stopping all this fraud because that is what it is and they have done very little to implement change

Send his boss an email....

I'm in a similar situation Lizzie. He pays hardly anything.

Pays himself in dividends.

Cms assured me that if he did that this year, they'd pick it up next year and his payments would increase.

Not so sure now after reading this thread.

Reigniting with a quick CMS question

My claim has been processed. Ex is on benefits. So I get (well if he bothers paying) the princely sum of £7 a week.

Does anyone know that if he gets a job, do CMS automatically up my money off his NI number or does it wait to the annual review and then he has to back pay the difference?