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Anyone’s DH hate socialising to the point that there’s always an argument after any event?

56 replies

Cleaningoutdacloset · 04/06/2018 22:01

I really enjoy seeing friends, going to events and talks and socialising with other families who have kids. I love hosting and cooking and I enjoy other people having a great time, and I find that I have a really happy kind of exhausted once people have come to stay and then they leave and there’s washing up to do and bedsheets to be washed, because I feel like I have really connected with people I like and made them happy.

DH hates my energy going towards this and I feel like I have to pay in blood every time I have this kind of enjoyment.

Eg last weekend we had a couple of DH’s friends and one of mine to stay. We hadn’t seen them for about a year and a half. He knew we were due to see them as he’d been part of the email exchange with them and made it clear to me he wanted to see them at some point. But when I reminded him we’d agreed in the email exchange they were coming this weekend, he became grumpy and said that we had better things to do than see friends and wanted me to cancel. I refused to cancel and said that I would take care of everything, thinking he was angry about the work it involved (which he has been in the past,) and I did.

I shopped and made all meals, I made up all beds, stripped and washed them afterwards, did all washing up and all the while looking after two toddlers and 30 weeks pregnant. I was tired at the end but I was happy tired.

While they were here DH sat in the bedroom on his computer and only came down for meals and to say hello and goodbye. He had a few chats with his friends and I heard him laughing a lot at a few points and felt relieved that he was having a good time.

He didn’t lift a finger though. And I thought, fine, it’s because he doesn’t really want this, so i’m going to make it as easy as possible for him. So I was bathing DC while pouring drinks for friends and reading them stories and putting them to bed while cranking up the barbeque in the garden.

Little did I know that the moment we closed the door to the last person and waved them off, I would be in for a tirade about how unreasonable, disrespectful and wrong I was to have people round when I knew he didn’t like socialising, and that I “have to change.”

In the past he has said that he doesn’t like it because he “always gets left with the work,” which has never actually been true. It is often that he doesn’t feel his food or drinks have been praised highly enough, or something small went wrong like he didn’t have a specific ingredient and he can never get over it.

Nevertheless I tried to change that and so I have done all the work the last few times, so he can’t say that anymore. But still he is unhappy.

So I can see perhaps that so far you might think he is just an anti social introvert and just likes being alone or with his family and therefore he and I are a bit incompatible but that’s not really true.

There are plenty of times where he is extremely social and the life of the party. Usually they are things which I have not organised and often am not even present at. I seem to miss the events where he is out till 5am or the times he laughs until he cries, or the times where all the “in jokes” get established, or he does stupid dancing or gets plastered, or the bonding moments he has with his/our friends (but tells me about.)

Which makes me think that the common denominator is me. That he does not actually like me enjoying myself. Or he doesn’t like me getting attention. I don’t really know what it is. But I feel like I can guarantee that the more enjoy something, the more he will irrationally hate it. And the more absent I am from something, the more it will be the “best time on earth.”

I couldn’t feel more shocked today that this weekend - where I really was in my element - he has described as disrespectful and disruptive to our family life and he wants me to apologise for frittering away money on entertainment of our friends and for not checking enough if he was okay all weekend. He says “it’s like you don’t want to be alone with me.” But of course that’s Not true.

Why is he doing this?

OP posts:
Bridechilla · 04/06/2018 23:33

Are you ok Cleaning? I realise I was quite cutting but I'm quite vocal about this because I've had experience with selective "introversion".

It's not a nice place to be put in, and that's where he wants you - in your place Thanks

HollyGibney · 04/06/2018 23:35

Your description of your way of socialising made me feel really tense as it sounds like complete hell to me. However his big tantrum and the things he said don't actually seem like it's all about that, I think you're right that he doesn't want your attention elsewhere and there's some jealousy and control issues in there. I don't like the sound of him at all.

ReginaBlitzkreig · 04/06/2018 23:35

None of his explanations or excuses remotely justify his hostility to you, OP. Be very careful not to lose your friends or social life for him, because I suspect you'd find his treatment of you would not improve.

DaintySong · 04/06/2018 23:47

I agree with what 2pointfourmonkeys is saying, it is possible to be an introvert and for it to be not apparent to most people, I'm kind of like that. I do enjoy being with my closest friends but I wouldn't enjoy them staying with me. I wouldn't feel comfortable not being able to relax and do whatever I want at home. I would get drunk to get more comfortable socializing. I don't like one on one conversations where I have to think of things to say but I like being in a company and mainly listening to others I guess. But yes, I mainly ask questions and I am interested but I don't feel comfortable talking much.

DaintySong · 04/06/2018 23:53

And I might get annoyed with my husband for him organising things I don't want to do and making me uncomfortable but I wouldn't be rude to other people, and I wouldn't be that horrible to him especially if I didn't have to do anything, maybe a bit grumpy! But it might be worse for other people.

DashingRed · 05/06/2018 00:21

You seem to have him sussed OP. I agree with everything you have said.

Why is he doing it? Who knows, perhaps he's a control freak and all the fun times have to be on his terms. It's very unpleasant behaviour though.

Is he an arse in other areas?

He's not an introvert that's for sure, nor is he antisocial. He's just a wanker!

nicenewdusters · 05/06/2018 00:40

This is calculated and manipulative behaviour. He clearly can't cope with seeing you as social, successful, competent and all the other things he probably isn't. I agree with all the pps who've said he wants to keep you in a role that HE feels happy with.

He's trying to get to a point where you don't do this again. He knows if he makes it uncomfortable before, during and after then you'll eventually stop planning these events. What about when your dc are older? What about social events with friends for them. Will he sulk in his room?

As for him asking for an apology - just breathtaking. The sad thing is, from your post I don't think you can see how bad this is. It's really vile behaviour, it can't be dressed up with ideas around being introverted.

thefourgp · 05/06/2018 05:13

I totally agree with Bridechilla and nicenewdusters. My ex was the same OP. I thought he was really social when we first met but I’ve realised he’s not. He would get very drunk on nights out and puts no effort into relationships. It got to the stage I was the one making all the effort with his family and the few friends he has. He would start arguments and get moody on the rare occasions I’d made plans to go out. I used to go to so many social events by myself because I couldn’t be bothered with the hassle of him either getting wasted, making himself the life and soul of the party and man handling everyone around us - or barely saying two words to anyone and constantly pestering me to go home. It’s a shit way to live your life. I’d be embarrassed to have people round to the house because he’d sit in our bedroom until they were gone. It’s got nothing to do with being an introvert because I’m also quite introverted. It’s about being insecure, controlling you and telling people in your life that they’re not important enough for him to make a bit of effort and be polite to. I threw a birthday party at our house for my mum’s 60th when I was eight months pregnant with our second child and he didn’t lift a finger to help. I had friends and relatives round to help get it all set up and they were shocked by his attitude. I’m so glad I’m no longer with him so our children won’t grow up thinking it’s normal or acceptable for mum to be in charge of everything, it’s not. One day you’ll have enough of this bullshit too OP. You can’t see how bad it is at the moment because he’s manipulating you to minimise his awful behaviour. I made excuses for my ex for years. I constantly told myself ‘everyone has their issues and his laziness is ours’ or ‘he’s so funny and affectionate to me at other times’. Please don’t tolerate it for too much longer. Good luck. X Flowers

Shoxfordian · 05/06/2018 05:59

He's completely out of order op; he shouldn't be making you run around doing everything and deciding he can't be bothered to join in with your guests. Has he always been like this with social occasions ? It sounds exhausting to put up with.

cakecakecheese · 05/06/2018 06:42

My boyfriend is introverted and I'm more outgoing. He makes an effort to be social and when I'm in social butterfly mode he'll tell me I'm amazing. It is possible to be introverted and supportive so I don't think this is about him being introverted at all it's more about some sort of resentment or jealousy towards you, which is obviously completely unacceptable.

CommonFishDiseases · 05/06/2018 06:49

I'm with you, OP. I love that connected, social feeling. What I would say is be true to who you really are, where you are and who you are with when you feel happiest. Don't give that up. It is part of who you are. Sounds like this guy is dragging you down and trying to control you. Sorry this is hard for you Flowers

category12 · 05/06/2018 06:49

It's not about being an introvert at all. Man's an arsehole. I can't believe how rude he was to his friends.

Is he like this on other things as well? How does he react if you're successful at something or get praised by someone?

CommonFishDiseases · 05/06/2018 06:51

P.s. my DH is introverted so feels drained after we host people, but enjoys it as well. We share the work hosting although I probably do more because I enjoy it (I get what you mean about washing bedding, clearing up etc!!) He would never make me feel bad because he loves me and knows I love socialising. That's what a loving marriage is.

Snog · 05/06/2018 06:57

He may well have social anxiety without knowing that he has it.
That is absolutely no excuse to behave like a complete arse to you but if he is undiagnosed with this condition then diagnosis could be the first step to sorting it out.

Kzzzzz · 05/06/2018 07:13

I think there’s a fundamental misunderstanding of what introversion is on this thread. It does NOT necessarily mean you’re shy and you certainly can be happy to laugh til you cry and stay out til 5pm. But afterwards you’ll probably need some time by yourself to recharge. I’m a classic introvert but also very social.

OP on the other hand you sound like an extrovert, you gain your energy from being around others.

Your husband might be an introvert but really he’s an arse who can’t communicate properly with you if he’d prefer to socialise in a different way. No excuse to treat you in that way.

AnyFucker · 05/06/2018 07:14

I don't know if he really hates socialising but he certainly hates you

I am quite introverted. I don't enjoy this kind of full on having people stay/stay with others. Weddings and weekends away with friends etc are not pleasant experiencrs for me.

But my discomfort and attempts to cover it come out as being overly helpful. You will find me hiding behind the cooking, clearing up, being the one volunteering to run to the shop for more supplies etc. Not watching somebody else do it then punishing them for it afterwards

He is abusive

AttilaTheMeerkat · 05/06/2018 07:48

Why is he doing this?

Because he can (you are still there for a start) whilst also enjoying seeing you squirm about under his power and control. He has really done a right number on you OP over the years, such me are truly master manipulators. You do all the work re entertaining his friends and he still moans.

And what Bridechilla wrote earlier.

SoyDora · 05/06/2018 07:59

I just feel like all relationships seem to end up like this

Not mine thankfully. We agree if/when we’re going to host people, split the workload, always have a lovely time with our friends but are glad of the peace and quiet afterwards! DH is an introvert but a great host and loves making guests feel happy and comfortable... he just needs some time to recharge after.
This isn’t an introvert/extrovert thing. It’s a selfish, rude thing. I am gobsmacked at him sitting upstairs while his friends are downstairs and his pregnant wife is running round after them all.

ILostItInTheEarlyNineties · 05/06/2018 08:23

It's entirely possible to be sociable and the life and soul of the party for one evening (especially when drinking!) but hate entertaining people for a whole weekend.
I love an evening out with friends but hate having people to stay for days on end. I don't know why, I just like to have my own space.

That said, if your dh doesn't want friends staying why agree to it? Confused
There's no excuse for the way he's speaking to you, nor the way he treats you. That's plain nasty.

There's a reason why he waited for your friends to leave before launching into a tirade of abuse. Your friends would have been horrified if they'd heard what he said to you.
As it is, I'm sure they noticed you were left with all the work. Didn't they mention that?

MarthasGinYard · 05/06/2018 08:23

'Agree with @Bridechilla - he's not an introvert, he's jealous! And controlling and a selfish twat.'

This

Plus extremely controlling

Be careful Op

DailyMailClickbait · 05/06/2018 08:40

Agree with Bridechilla and AF

He's rude, disrespectful, entitled and lazy. How convenient that the metamorphosis to a social and happy person always takes place when you aren't there.

What exactly do you see in him - a man that's just left all of the work to his heavily pregnant wife and now expects her to grovel because she didn't ask him frequently enough if he was OK?!

Raise your standards.

hellsbellsmelons · 05/06/2018 08:52

And you love this guy!???
He's a controlling asshole.
And I think you are starting to realise this.
Do not change.
You are a lovely person. Be proud of who you are and do NOT let him drag you down.
He is what I call a 'fun-sucker'
Time to have a proper chat with him.

Doh9899 · 05/06/2018 08:56

Having only read your opening post, I think hosting events and attending events are two different things. Although yes you may be doing the practical things, he's still going to feel the pressure of having to host in some way i.e he can't sit in his underwear on his sofa watching crap on the telly, he'd have to be smiling and trying to engage and socialise by not ignoring them. From the sounds of it you host a lot, and this may be what his problem is. He doesn't have an issue with seeing friends, just having different people into what he sees as his space where he can properly relax after a day at work on such a frequent basis may be starting to get to him as he feels youre missing the point when he's clearly communicating badly he just doesn't want people in his space so often as you do

Hope that makes sense

DailyMailClickbait · 05/06/2018 10:56

Doh did you miss the part where OP said that HE'D invited them? They were HIS friends that HE wanted to see. The grumping about needing to cancel happened right at the last minute, and when OP pointed out that this would have been bloody rude, he stuck his bottom lip out and sulked, which he apparently does every time this happens.

What's your take on him insisting that OP needs to apologise to him for not asking him frequently enough if he was OK? Y'know, his pregnant wife in her third trimester who's been running round after him and their guests all weekend whilst he didn't lift a finger... Hmm

PrimalLass · 05/06/2018 11:02

OP your husband's friends must have thought he was insanely rude. Did it feel awkward?

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