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HELP! I think I've fallen out of love and its destroying my life

20 replies

Fedupdogandkids · 02/06/2018 02:08

Hi. I'm new here. This is my first post and I don't know if this topic has been covered so please refer me to a more appropriate thread if necessary. Anyway. My current concern is a bit of a moan and a bit of a worry I guess. It might be a long one so thanks for reading through if you do. And many many thanks for any advice.

Here's the story. My husband and I have been married 3 years, but have known each other 13 and dated on and off for a majority of that. He's got an estranged 19 yo daughter and we've got 2 dogs. I'm the only point of contact between him and his daughter as I've remained neutral. This is not the main problem but it's one of them. The main problem is this:

I'm worried I've fallen out of love with him and we are just mates. There. I've said it - or written it. I hate this fact. I have been head over heels for this man for as long as I can remember, possibly even putting him on a pedestal at some points. He was everything a woman could dream of - good looking, good in bed, compassionate, ecologically sensitive, family man, dedicated to both home and work life, pulling in a decent wage, and always up for adventures and fun. In the last year or so though, this has changed dramatically. He took a promotion at work and has been totally career driven - to the point where he works approximately 10-12 hours a day on a good day. He wants to retire early (at 60 as opposed to 68 as the normal teacher retirement age allows and this makes sense as I'm 15 years younger) but it means that when i do see him he is constantly working. I work 4 days a week (something we agreed on as it'd make life more enjoyable at the weekends if on fridays I could get all the housework done) but now he just sits on his phone or his tablet ALL THE TIME and then falls asleep while we watch netflix and I drown my sorrows in a bottle of wine.

Normally I'd say to someone in my position - go make some friends, get hobbies, etc. and do something independent. My problem is that we have 2 dogs who need picking up from the dogsitter by a reasonable time each day and although I tried to start yoga, netball, etc. his work schedule would never allow me to continue without upsetting our dogsitter.

Now I find myself in a place where I literally have NO friends who I feel like I could call to go for a glass of vino and a natter (or moan) about this at a weekend, and a husband who promised me a lovely wine and dine night this evening, but wanted to come home early and fell asleep - and now I'm drinking the cherry brandy we bought for a friend and worrying I'm turning into a functioning alcoholic for lack of anything better to do.

Oh and to add to this, we maybe have sex once a month at best. He has put on a lot of weight - which is not a massive problem but doesn't attract me as it once did. He also now has erectile dysfunction but despite me asking him to go to the docs about it, he promises to make an appointment but never does. He also just shows absolutely no interest - very occasionally giving me a comment like 'nice a_' as I walk away but nothing remotely believable. So sex is a very very boring and scheduled thing, which only happens if I literally say the night before that I'd like some, and then it can only happen in the morning (I"m NOT a morning person but will get up early if necessary) and only in the bedroom, where it seems like he feels it's his duty rather than anything he enjoys, and culminates in a mechanical version of both of us being 'satisfied' but then him falling asleep.

I know this sounds horrible but he is a lovely man and we do have fantastic adventures, walks, etc together. Generally life is fine, but lately it just feels more like we're housemates than husband and wife. The worst part about it is that I've started having bizarre dreams about co-workers or TV show stars where I wake up and resent my husband that he's not like them despite the fact I know it's a complete ideal fantasy version of what I want.

WHAT DO I DO?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Thanks,
Isolated and frustrated (but hopefully still in love somewhere)

OP posts:
Fedupdogandkids · 02/06/2018 03:04

OK seriously could use some advice here folks... I'm running out of cherry brandy!

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Fedupdogandkids · 02/06/2018 03:04

Anyone anywhere? What about the fact that viagra is no longer needing a prescription in the UK? Anyone tried it?

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Fedupdogandkids · 02/06/2018 03:05

Totally think I could be fine if we had lots more loving........ come on ladies. It's mums net. You must've done it lol!

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RafikiIsTheBest · 02/06/2018 03:08

You need to talk, and talk and talk. And work this out.
It seems a shame to have gone from being so in love with an amazing partner to walking away.
I wouldn't give an ultimatum but have you told your DH how you are feeling? Have you sat down with him and just said look I'm struggling with us and I need more from you? Have you encouraged healthy eating and activities? I'm assuming that since he works such long hours that cooking falls to you? Tell him what you need, tell him what you want and tell him what you can settle for, assuming you want to fix this relationship. But don't expect big changes to be long lasting, IME small changes built up last longer.

As for the dogs, can you not drop them off at home then go to the gym or yoga? Surely after being with a dog sitter all day they don't need constant companionship every evening? Or maybe see if you can find some local dog walking groups so you can take them with you?

IrritableBitchSyndrome · 02/06/2018 03:09

I feel as though I should respond as I'm awake but not sure what to say... Your husband sounds as though he needs a checkup at the GP. Have you tried marriage counselling? Sounds as though it could be good for you, if possibly hard to schedule.

RafikiIsTheBest · 02/06/2018 03:10

Totally think I could be fine if we had lots more loving........ come on ladies. It's mums net. You must've done it lol!

I'm going to hope you're drunk rather than having a wind-up. But most members are in the UK and will be asleep at this time. Maybe come back for more replies in 6-8 hours when more members will be online.

Have you tried councilling? Would your DH go for that?

IrritableBitchSyndrome · 02/06/2018 03:12

How does your husband feel? Is he wanting to retire earlier due to stress? Does he maybe think he is exchanging working really hard now with stopping earlier and thinks you are on board with this?

Fedupdogandkids · 02/06/2018 03:19

Thank you my dears. Yes I totally agree about the GP and also about the small changes. Maybe I'm looking at the bigger picture and need to go in deeper. Oooooh maybe I'll start with 'once again can you PLEASE put your dirty clothes in the hamper rather than on the floor and also maybe can you come home early on Thursday night this week.... winky suggestive face'.

On a serious note (and if you've not got it yet, I don't have much of one which is probably MY biggest problem) I agree that lots of talking need to be done :/ how to start.... thats the prob. I've tried. Usually on a long drive, as he usually drives for those and therefore isn't on his phone. But I think I just need to keep up with it. I generally have this conversation:

Me: 'I'd really like to talk about the lovely sex we had last week'

Him: 'Yeah it was great'

Me: 'Good. Is there anything you'd like ME to change?'

Him: 'Nope. It was the best sex EVER. I love you'

Me: 'Ok, well I really liked this thing you did'

Him: 'Yeah that's cool, do you want to go on a canoeing holiday?'

Me: 'Well, yeah ok, but what about the sex thing?'

Him: 'Well yeah it was good, but I saw this good deal on...'

etc.

Me: ALRKJA:OEIHPGUSHDONAOIHFOUERHRT:OSENG:

Him: 'And maybe we could do wild camping'

Me: Ok I'll just wait until I have a shower to myself....

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Fedupdogandkids · 02/06/2018 03:23

Oh and as a reply to Iritiable.... he just wants to retire at 60 because who wants to teach teenagers at 68 years old!? He 'loves' his job but it is stressful, which I can totally appreciate (I do exactly the same job as him) but cut myself off as work is work and life is life for me...

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AjasLipstick · 02/06/2018 04:16

He's just not as into sex as you are OP....you're also 15 years younger which will be...and obviously IS an issue as he ages faster than you.

I'm guessing he's in his 40s or 50s? Making you pretty young still.

You want him to sort out his weight and get to the bottom of the erectile dysfunction but he's not bothered...you have to make it very clear that you're not happy as you are and that you might leave if he can't change.

See, I am on the fence about this as he has a right to a happy life as he sees it but you also have a right to one....so if he won't/can't give you what you want, perhaps it's time to leave.

RainySeptember · 02/06/2018 04:22

DS is a teacher and works 10-12hrs per day, I think that seems to be quite normal. If he's hoping to retire nearly a decade early, he'll also need to work hard and seize every promotion.

So at least some of the things you're unhappy about sound a bit unreasonable to me, including blaming him for you yourself not having any friends or hobbies, and drinking too much. I just can't see why you can't go out in the evening, or on weekends, or why sitting by yourself means you've got to open the cherry brandy.

Are you sure at least some of what you describe, including his energy levels, aren't just a symptom of the 15yr age gap catching up with you? I guess at one time he thought having a gf 15yrs younger was fantastic, but has now reached an age where he will have to work harder to match your expectations.

Having said that, if you're unhappy, and the mismatched sex drives does sound miserable, you have to make him understand how serious this issue is for you, and seek couples counselling if necessary.

Cawfee · 02/06/2018 04:42

I think the dog thing is a bit strange and something you could sort out easily. Pick dogs up, drop at home, go to yoga class/gym/swimming etc...to be honest you sound lonely and really need to get out there and
make some friends. Take the pressure off the relationship. You’ve at least got one who wants to go on holidays!! You’re doing better than most of us!

Thingsdogetbetter · 02/06/2018 07:23

To be honest that type of conversation isn't going to get you anywhere. Not once did you actually mention a problem, you gave extremely subtle hints and when he didn't pick up on it you gave more subtle hints.
You: I'd like to take about the lovely sex we had last week.
Him: best sex ever.
You: great so why are we have so little of it?
Him: tired from job, stress blah blah blah.
You: I'm extremely unhappy with the way things are at the moment. What can we do about this? ......

Agree with previous poster, you need to collect dogs, drop them home and go out and get a life that isn't you waiting around for dh to spare some time for you.

Cadencia · 02/06/2018 07:30

I don't think working 10-12 hours a day is unusual - unless you mean weekends too?

Counselling may help, but tbh if your sex drives are mismatched it's unlikely to change that. So you need to decide whether you can live with infrequent sex or not. And if not, it may be time to call it a day.

niceupthedance · 02/06/2018 07:44

I hate analysing sex after the event: total cringe.

As pp said you need to go in straight to the point - I feel our sex drives are mismatched, what can we do about this as it might end up being a dealbreaker.

Re ED, tiredness and weight gain, has he been tested for diabetes?

BigSandyBalls2015 · 02/06/2018 07:49

This sounds familiar. Did you post a few months ago?

Sally2791 · 02/06/2018 07:59

I would suggest taking dogs home and going out to do your own thing not healthy expecting him to be everything to you.
Also sounds as though you need to have more direct conversations with him so that he cannot avoid knowing exactly what is wrong for you. And then set about fixing it together because you have many good things in your relationship

mayhew · 02/06/2018 08:14

It sounds like a combination of job stress, different libidos and normal aging. Plus an age gap. He's juggling a lot and his coping mechanism is causing him to gain weight and probably feeling exhausted.

He needs to want to be healthier, then the other stuff is likely to improve. He'll have more energy and more physical confidence. Sadly erectile problems are very common in middle aged men and some improve and others don't. But don't start there...

Two things really influenced my husbands attitude to aging. One was watching Michael Moselys BBC documentaries on weight/health ( still on YouTube) The other was discovering he was vitamin D deficient and correcting that. He now seems 10-15 years younger and has a new positivity and energy. I have always been more interested than sex than him, that hasn't changed . I just love being with him, I can't imagine a better companion and look forward to the rest of our lives.

Your husbands challenge is getting to 60 in a fit enough state to enjoy retirement. Don't make it all about sex.

eve34 · 02/06/2018 08:29

I do feel for you. I can only give you my thoughts on my ex who was 11 years younger than me. We got to a point that I was content and comfortable and looking at how we would fair in retirement. He wasn't on the same page.

He never said. He up and left. I am sure for a number of different reason. And the younger ow.

I would of given anything for him to of actually talked to me. Please sit him down and say you love him but somethings need to change be honest. And say how you would like things to be moving forward. Hope you get a positive outcome.

WowLookAtYou · 02/06/2018 10:28

I love my dh but would cringe and change the subject if he ever started dissecting the minutiae of our sex-life after the event! Envy

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