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DH said he can’t talk to me, I feel sad!

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Yankeecandle71 · 28/05/2018 19:07

I have NC for this, and I don’t really know what I’m looking for whether it’s advice or just to offload. This might be long (sorry).

Been married for almost 29 years. Throughout most of my adult life, I’ve stuffed on and off from depression. I’ve always felt I wasn’t good enough, I’m a burden (even when I was a child). Because of how i have felt whenever someone tells me they are feeling down, I always try to cheer them up, take a lot of time to try and help them because depression is one of the worse things in the world, and I wouldn’t wish it in my worse enemy.

Today, DH and I have found out someone we know has committed suicide. So, we were talking and DH said it’s a shame the person didn’t feel he had someone to talk to. I asked DH if he felt he had anyone to talk to if he ever felt like that, and he said no. I asked if he felt he could speak to me he said “absolutely no fucking chance”. I was a bit hurt by this, but can understand why he wouldn’t speak to me given my history. I then said to him, what type of things to you get depressed about, he replied, different things, I then said like money, he said yes?? I asked if he had ever wanted to kill himself because of money, he said yes.

Now, my DH is very money orientated. I had always thought to myself that money is his first love and to me this has just confirmed it.

My DH is a hard worker, a very hard worker, he was self employed for a couple of years, and during that time, he earned extremely good money, and that was when he was the happiest I’ve ever seen him.
During this time, he had an affair, and I remember he had a change of attitude towards some people, including me and the kids, it was as if we weren’t good enough for him. We stayed together, worked through it.

A couple of years after the affair, I went into a deep deep depression, I didn’t want to be here, but I had also gotten into debt to the tune of £15000. It was my own fault, I would buy myself things to try to make me feel better, bought my kids & DH things because I felt like a failure.
Of course, and quite rightly so, DH was extremely angry when I told him about it, BUT, that wasn’t the first time I got into debt. About 15 years ago, I got into debt of about £7000, when I was in another deep depression because I found out DH had a “thing” for my friend. Nothing happened, he didn’t make a move and if he did, my friend would have told him to get lost.

I cannot make any excuses for me getting into debt. I just remember the feeling of euphoria when I was buying things, clothes that didn’t fit me, food we wouldn’t eat, holidays we couldn’t afford. It made me feel better. Now I feel a failure all over again because my husband can’t talk to me if he is feeling down and also because I feel money trumps everything for him, it take place more than me and the kids

We don’t have debt now, we have a bit of savings, our small mortgage will be paid off the the next 3 years (our house is worth approx £250,000) but I know that’s not enough for my husband. He wants more, he wants to buy property to rent out, he wanted to move to another country but I wouldn’t go and he has said in the past that he feels I’ve held him back. I just feel so sad particularly when the person who has committed suicide is very young.

Sorry I’m rambling and this thread will be all over the place.

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dinosaursandtea · 28/05/2018 19:13

Given your spending patterns, I think it’s a good thing one of you is focused on money tbh. I’m sorry you have problems, but part of marriage is making sure that the burden of fixing them doesn’t always fall on your spouse and that they have space to feel shitty as well. It doesn’t sound like your husband has been getting that.

Guiltypleasures001 · 28/05/2018 19:15

Your husband is money obsessed and has cheated on you causing your depression, your getting in to debt is your punishing him for this.

Please don't blame yourself, I don't believe he was suicidal over money, I think he was trying to tell you that , to make you feel like,shit about the debt, hoping in your mind you would connect the two.

Be kind to yourself and LTB 💐

Nowisthemonthofmaying · 28/05/2018 19:18

Hmm. To be honest, it sounds like the reason you've had depression is that you're married to a dick. I would challenge anyone not to be depressed if their dh had an affair! It doesn't excuse the spending sprees on your part but it also sounds like there are some serious issues with your relationship that you're not addressing.

dinosaursandtea · 28/05/2018 19:20

I’m sorry, but the OP is clearly in only an OK position financially - I can’t imagine the impact that over £20k worth of debt has put on the family! Infidelity is never OK, but it sounds like you despise your husband’s ambition (while being very happy to take advantage of the financial advantages) and minimise his stress and potential depressio!. That’s not OK - marriage is a two way street.

Guiltypleasures how dare you dismiss someone’s suicidal feelings that way?! I’m bloody glad I’m not married to you.

Guiltypleasures001 · 28/05/2018 19:24

Oh give over Dino,

The mans probably a manipulator it's a favourite tactic of the abuser
Had I for me moment thought it was serious I wouldn't have said it

BubblingUp · 28/05/2018 19:24

His answer to you - "no fucking chance" - is such a strong reaction. It sounds like he resents you. Why do you all stay together?

Joysmum · 28/05/2018 19:36

Ok so now you have a chance to look at how you both can make changes to improve your relationship. Yes, this would have been a dreadful thing to hear but if you both want to work on it, that’s possible.

I guess the biggest issue is if either one of you isn’t happy with your current relationship but both of you won’t work to change things.

Yankeecandle71 · 28/05/2018 19:49

Thank you everyone for your replies I do appreciate it.

He never took anything to do with the finances it was always left to me and I messed them up. When we were first married, I used to be the one that saved money but he would always want to spend it, and go in a mood if I said no. When he wanted to go self employed, we had to remortgage our old home so I’ve never stopped him being successful infact I had to give up my job which I had worked in for 17 years and a job I absolutely loved because he was working so many hours and I couldn’t work full time 6 days a week and look after 2 kids (by the time I picked up the kids, from childcare, it was 7.30pm) and I couldn’t get my hours reduced. I do work now, in a job that I absolutely hate but I can’t seem to find another and it does pay good. I felt in a very vulnerable position when I gave up my job because that was when he had the affair and he did say at the time he didn’t know if he wanted us to stay together, but like the weak pathetic being that I am, I pleaded and did the pick me Dance and stayed. I did get counselling for the depression and that was one thing the therapist said that could have been the cause of the depression because I hated myself for staying.

I know DH is annoyed because he wants to remortgage our home we are in now to buy property and rent out and I’ve put my foot down and said no, when the mortgage is clear in 3 years time, he can buy property to rent out.

My dad died last year and left me money, and I gave it right to my husband to use anyway he saw fit, and this was partly because I felt I didn’t deserve it.

I don’t know why I stay with him I certainly don’t feel the same way about him, but he isn’t actually a bad person. He can be abusive some times. When I last got into debt, I walked out the house and he shouted after me “if your going to kill yourself try to make it look like an accident and make sure you don’t involve anyone else And make them suffer like your making me suffer”

maybe should just walk away from them all.

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Yankeecandle71 · 28/05/2018 19:50

joysmum I feel it’s always me that has to work that wee bit harder. But maybe that’s because I’m the problem.

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Yankeecandle71 · 28/05/2018 19:54

dinosaursandtea we don’t have any debt now, it was cleared off 5 years ago. I will NEVER get into debt again. It’s not worth it.

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yetmorecrap · 28/05/2018 19:59

OP, I totally get you on this, to be honest finding out this kind of crap (I have been there) messes a great deal with your head and emotions for a very good while and I think anyone who has a lack of sympathy hasn’t been there. I ‘forgot’ to do so many work related things for a very long while because my head was full of trying to piece together what had gone on, there wasn’t that much room for necessarily being logical and sensible

sonjadog · 28/05/2018 20:01

Why do you think your husband is staying in your marriage?

Yankeecandle71 · 28/05/2018 20:04

I’m not trying to justify the debt I’m really not, I’m just really sad he can’t feel like he can talk to me. It just makes me feel like a failure yet again.

I wasn’t worth it when I was young for my mum and Dad to give up drinking (they were alcoholics)
I wasn’t worth it when my husband had an affair and had feelings for my friend
I’m not worth asking for help when my DH has problems and he can’t even talk to me about things because I have suffered depression in the past, and I suffer from General Anxiety Disorder.

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Yankeecandle71 · 28/05/2018 20:05

sonjadog I’ve asked my husband that he says it’s because he loves me, he tells the children I’m his best friend, but then on the other hand with some of the things he says it takes those things away.

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VogueVVague · 28/05/2018 20:06

Your dh sounds like an absolute twat

Cambionome · 28/05/2018 20:15

He sounds absolutely horrible and extremely manipulative. Sad

Joysmum · 28/05/2018 22:56

I know DH is annoyed because he wants to remortgage our home we are in now to buy property and rent out and I’ve put my foot down and said no

That’s a shame.

We’ve now got £650-£700k equity because I originally pushed to remortgage and so began my push for a property portfolio. It started with 1 and I’ve done a load since then and have kept 5.

I feel sorry for your DH. You don’t want to invest and yet you run up debt. Why would he feel able to talk to you?

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