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Zaramarried16 · 28/05/2018 09:32

Hi I’m new this but always read posts on here. I thought I’d share something that is worrying me so me.
Married for 3 yr two school aged children. Dh got promoted from tools to office less than a yr ago. There was occasional travel for him at the beginning but over the last six months this has become a very regular thing he use to go on Monday morning early but started going Sunday evening. He would go anything between 2-4 days at least once or twice a month. The one day he was away I’d had a car accident after school a dog ran out in front me it was an awful experience I was very Shaken I called him around 9.30am, 9.50am and 10.05am I never got a response and he didn’t return the call til 6pm! He told me his phone was in his bag.
There were a couple of other times when I’d ring and he’d say he was in a meeting - while working away at a different development he would not need to be in a meeting. His there to Train people.
We would have the same routine while he was gone he’d text to say how’s everything then he’d say il call you after dinner. When we spoke it was pretty much all me doing the talking he was so switched off, he would then text to apologise for not been talkative (fine once but this was all the time) the most recent time he was so quiet on the phone I actually felt something was wrong! I spoke to him about this when he would come home with the usual headache, tired he would even go sleep when he got back. He said it’s lonely and boring and that he hated staying away from home.
Well this is where it got strange he wasn’t home 24hrs from the usual trip when we was out one morning together when he looked at his work phone and said “oh I’m back off again Monday (bank holiday) til Thursday” I said I wasn’t happy you’ve just come back and now your going again. Don’t know what he’d arranged with a colleagues but he came home from work the following day saying the course was cancelled he didn’t need to go til Wednesday morning just for one night. I was relieved and after discussing with my sis I arranged childcare for my kids and decided to accompany him for that one night, I thought it was a lovely surprise and couldn’t wait to tell him. When I did he stared out the window of the kitchen thinking I asked what he was doing he said I’m trying to work out how we can do this! I said what do you mean he said I wouldn’t be able to check in without him, but there’s a lovely village so I’d be ok to stroll around there til he finished. He then said ok great I might change the hotel he always stayed at the same hotel very time but now he wanted to change it as there wasn’t a swimming pool at his usual one.
Anyway as the week went on my daughter got a temp I decided I wouldn’t be able to go and I told him I’d come next time he said ok. Then the following day he came home and told me he didn’t need to go over night anymore. He told me they emailed the cancellation I told him this is too strange he got defensive and said I’m gona prove it in a cocky manner he looked for the email on his work phone but it wasn’t there then he said it automatically goes into junk then deletes, he said it will be in my laptop. He always bought his work bag into the house but the following day he didn’t same the day after. Then when I said in convo you never did show me that email I’m curious cos I’d hate it if you just didn’t want me coming Cos your enjoying a few days piece cos that’s the feeling I got. Took him 40 mins of searching his laptop for an email he slammed it shut and said I’m obviously lying cos it’s not in here!
We’ve been together 13 years we’re a young couple. He has been away on his training years ago when we had our first baby he was gone all week and back weekends and I can honestly say during those 2 yrs I never for one second thought any thing like what I think now. I am extremely trusting and open in our relationship. He is attentive but shy with people he don’t know. One thing that’s odd is whenever this one work mate rings my dh says “wife’s here mate”!
He will regularly buy me a gift usually after his been away.
My instincts tell me his lying about something or keeping something from me. Yes I’ve trued talking it usually ends In a row cos he gets all difficult and then I get mad with him cos his putting up a wall.
Any opinions?

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Zaramarried16 · 29/05/2018 10:25

If the screenshot was taken by dh to show his weird mate that his broke it off with his bit on the side then that would tell me that it’s over, which will mean no more trips away.
I’m not certain that screenshot is his so until then I’m still undecided I physically cannot imagine dh doing this I just can’t see it play out in my head. I will keep digging, I’m hopeful he might just come clean.

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Puttingthefootdown · 29/05/2018 11:30

You need to keep quiet and wait it out. Saying anything now will blow your cover.
There will be a trip he's just being extra careful now. Act completely normal as hard as that is.

It's the only way you will trip him up. Say nothing to this mutual friend because you never know if they will stab you right back.

crispysausagerolls · 29/05/2018 11:48

Agree - please don't tell mutual friend! Men always have each other's backs and he will alert DH! What exactly did the screenshot say?

Zaramarried16 · 29/05/2018 11:50

Thank you so much and yes it’s extremely hard to fake this I can’t stand him near me or can’t even look at him!
I’ve called him out on things then find a convo of something ending this leads me to believe it’s finished? Or could be temporarily?
Thanks for talking me down I was so close to caving in and ringing his mate! But yeah your right that could blow my cover and he’ll deny deny especially because this mate of ours got divorced last year after been married one year his wife who’s in a professional job was having an affair with a colleague for 6 months! He was heartbroken it was awful and to see my dh help him and go out with him - how ironic life really is Sad

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Zaramarried16 · 29/05/2018 12:30

Screenshot was a convo with a women as the recipient the person messaging her basically said can’t do this anymore, then she questioned why there was a deleted message then she put you have to make the right decision for you. Very confusing as dh and his weird work mate always screenshot stuff the mate is always showing him his convos with girls and how he ends relationships with them. But I know he hasn’t got a gf at the moment I know this cos he recently went on a date with someone.
I noticed the screenshot in his album sent or taken on Friday evening when he went out with his dad for a meal which by the way he went to the wrong restaurant but stayed and had a beer the time on screenshot is inline with him been out on his own.
Something told me to check photos that’s when I saw it there were others but they were irrelevant and didn’t suggest anything suspicious. I went back to check the screeenshot the next day- it was gone and only that one also gone from deleted items. I’m so confused I saw a name on the screenshot I’ve checked his contacts she’s not saved.
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MaudlinMews · 29/05/2018 12:57

You can have an interest in men as well as women. Ive known a few men like this. Theyre attracted to both but present as straight.

MaudlinMews · 29/05/2018 13:18

OK, so you know this woman’s name, have you searched ‘Plenty of Fish, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, etc.? You could also create a dummy account on Tindr and search there. I think your best bet is to act normal and gather evidence though.

Zaramarried16 · 29/05/2018 13:58

Agree with you about acting normal.
Yes got the name, searched and found her, now what nothing ties the together. It also appears nothing ties this woman to his mate who I really thought it was gona be someone he was seeing.

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MaudlinMews · 29/05/2018 14:21

What does she do for a living? Where does she live?

Zaramarried16 · 29/05/2018 14:39

Account private cannot see.
My gut/instincts are telling this girl is to do with his mate I don’t know for sure but I know he had an ex years back with the same name as her. Dh wud tell me in conversation if they got back together so it’s odd but more likely to do with him at the moment that’s what I think.
I’ve cleared my head and wondered why deleted it if it’s nothing to do with himself, only logical thing is maybe he felt it was incriminating having it on his phone?
I will be going quiet now for a little while to keep things normal. I will update if anything comes to light I really hope I’ve got this wrong and his just enjoying some piece and quiet away.
Speak soon and thanks to you all xx

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Zaramarried16 · 30/05/2018 13:22

Crispysausagerolls your post about how sending pics saying meal for one appeared too convincing to make me think he was alone. It made me think and thankfully I’ve been able to go back to the whats app pic and cross reference it with his bank statement - you’ll know why I’m telling you this in a second - dh is tall slim to medium build and fairly fit.
Back to the statement the day he sent me a pic of meal for one he also appears to have ordered himself online web - Pizza Hut judging by the price he has gone large on the pizza??
So he either didn’t work that day or he didn’t go out for that meal he told me about?
Thoughts please? As I’m wondering should I call Pizza Hut and see if they have old orders on the system I could try and get a time if I explain my card went missing that day but I don’t remember ordering that food?
He thinks everything is fine so trying to keep it that way. X

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MaudlinMews · 31/05/2018 11:07

So you think the picture he sent you had been taken on another day and saved to use when he needed it? Certainly possible. What time did he send the pic and what time did he order the pizza?

Thebluedog · 31/05/2018 11:41

A friend of mine was having an affair with a man who had a gf. All of this smacks of the things he used to do. He’d see my friend during the week, as he worked away in different locations all week but, if the commute wasn’t too bad he’d stay with her, and tell his gf he was in a hotel. He’d google the menu of the hotel he was supposed to be staying at, so he could tell his gf what he’d eaten that night, so if she checked it would be on the menu.

He’d take selfies of himself when he was in the hotel room so he could send to his gf when he was staying with my friend.

Again selfies in various parts of the county and store them to use if needed

Make no mistake, some people’s capacity for deceit is astounding. Angry

Thankfully my mate saw sense and told him to sod off. But it really did mar our relationship and made me realise just how horrid people could be

Zaramarried16 · 31/05/2018 12:07

Only got a date no time on statement.not sure how I can find out for sure if that was debited from another day( very unlikely) the statement says a date/description and charge I assume that meant he used his card on that day.
It’s the same for another meal he supposedly went for it don’t match on the statement I don’t get it??

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Zaramarried16 · 31/05/2018 12:12

Hi,
Omg shocking. Statements have the location on when he says he is wherever he is.
I just find it really odd he hasn’t gone for the month, I’ve looked back at our chats he was going monthly now all of a sudden he hasn’t got to go. X

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MaudlinMews · 31/05/2018 12:17

Well if he's suddenly stopped going where he always used to go then that would tie in with the shot of the text exchange you saw saying that things had to end.

I'm so sorry OP but it doesn't look good. The best thing to do though would be to bide your time, say nothing but watch and listen Something's going on and you need to find out what. Flowers

Zaramarried16 · 31/05/2018 12:23

If this is the case then I won’t find out the truth then. He won’t be seeing her so no trips no guilt, back to normal then il never know

I keep thinking of any other explanation for this behaviour?
Is it possible he just likes the break away from responsibility? I’d love a

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Linzerelli13 · 31/05/2018 13:38

Can you get access to his phone again? Are you able to find the photos that he sent you of his 'meal for One' etc and look at the details of the photo? I.e. what time and date they were taken on his phone? Surely they would have been taken minutes before they were sent? If not then I'd suggest hes banking them to send to you as an alibi.
I caught exH cheating when i checked his itemized phone bill and found hundreds of texts to the same number. I had also checked his WhatsApp, texts etc and found nothing. He had been deleting everything to cover his tracks. Might be worth having a snoop on his phone bill if you can get access? If there's a recurring number take note and have a look through his contacts. See if it's saved. Are you sure it's his mate calling when he says it is? Could he have the name in his phone as friend but it be someone else?
Awful situation to be in OP. Gut feelings are often right I'm afraid Flowers

Zaramarried16 · 31/05/2018 14:26

Hi, fab idea I will check the whats app. If he has any suspicion of me checking him out he’ll use his work phone to check when his personal phone what’s app was “last active” he has been leaving it around, going for a shower while it’s in the bed right next to me! I’m assuming he could be testing me??
I get what your saying but just can’t see him been that clever about something he can barely make a decision what to have for dinner let alone conspire a plan like that. I keep thinking there would be more signs if he had someone else, he’s not the best at lying. Wouldn’t he be down/upset missing his free time surely he’d be snappy and irritable?
The only strange thing that’s been happening a lot lately is he has looked at my phone call log when my phone was on the side he didn’t go through it,it was already on calls and he looked. Also he asked me why I was on what’s app Late one evening? This is odd from him but that’s about it other then that he acts normal he tries to kiss me often. Xx

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crispysausagerolls · 05/06/2018 20:48

Hi OP, any other luck with the snooping? X

Zaramarried16 · 17/08/2018 18:26

Hi sorry for delay
Nothing on the phone, car seems normal.
However more recently he had another course away this week bearing in mind I wasn’t too happy the last one got cancelled when I was supposedly coming with him. He said back then the next time I’m away it’s best in the school hols for childcare reasons. So anyway back to this week he told me a couple weeks ago his away soon to which I replied well it’s the kids hols so I’m coming with you. Which I did we had 3 days in his usual hotel )it was basic) we went for food, cinema which he said it was nice having company. Feel loads more confident now that I’ve been there. Only one uncertainty is he stays 15mins from his work place to which I expressed interest in visiting the near town centre I did feel there were excuses made for me not to be in this town alone.
If I’m been honest with myself I cannot get to grips with him not answering my calls way back previous to when all this started that’s what gets me the most cos that’s the only thing he can’t explain for what ever reason. He did provide hotel reciepts, work schedule and diary dates for all cancelled trips.
Thanks to everyone it’s not a nice place to be and I often wonder why it all changed I’ve never in 14 years felt suspicious of him.

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