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Can I get abusive rapist to sign away parental rights?

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Paradiso1 · 25/05/2018 21:20

I know this is a thing people can do in the US, but here in the UK is there any way to get a deadbeat rapist drug addict abusive father-to-be to sign away parental rights?

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Mumblechum0 · 25/05/2018 21:23

Don't give them to him in the first place. If he isn't on the birth certificate he has no Parental Responsibility. (I'm presuming you're not married)

He could apply to the court for a PR order, and it's usually granted but if the circumstances are very exceptional, he'll fail.

As you describe him as a deadbeat the chances are he won't bother applying.

UnmentionedElephantDildo · 25/05/2018 21:23

Which UK jursisdiction do you live in?

(And I assume you mean Parental Responsibility)

negomi90 · 25/05/2018 21:26

If you aren't married then don't put him on the birth certificate - he won't get parental responsibility.

If your in a relationship and he's a rapist and drug addict then get a midwife to make a social services referral which will if things are that bad limit his access.

Paradiso1 · 25/05/2018 23:11

@UnmentionedElephantDildo

I am in England. I don't know whether it's officially referred to as parental rights or parental responsibility. I don't want him to be able to apply for visitation or custody at any point. We are not married. He is currently released under investigation for rape by the police.

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GeekyWombat · 25/05/2018 23:18

Is he named on the birth certificate OP?

eightfacesofthemoon · 25/05/2018 23:21

You need to get proper legal advice. No one on here can give you that. End of
The birth certificate thing is utter bollocks now. Depending on the age of the children who I presume are young.
There are many charities out there who can advise you properly.

Nellia · 26/05/2018 07:17

If the child hasnt been born yet amd you are not married the birth certificate advice is not bollocks.
He would need to force a dna test to prove he is the father if he is not named on the birth certificate. Otherwise any man could claim to be your childs father....

eightfacesofthemoon · 26/05/2018 09:32

And it’s very easy to force someone to get a dna test, and he can apply for parental responsibility through the courts.
If you think he won’t bother going through all that hassle then I would move as far away as physically possible now. Before he starts kicking up a fuss.

Nellia · 26/05/2018 09:53

Eightfacesofthemoon is it? is it really?

To get a dna test he would have to take it to court. The court would take evidence into consideration such as the birth certificate. If the mother disputes paternity the court would only force a dna test if it was in the best interest of the child to be named as the individals child i.e child maintainance.
I know several women who have attempted to get dna test to prove paternity for child maintainace purposes even when the fathers name is on the birth certificate and they have got nowhere.

Nellia · 26/05/2018 09:53

Also a mother at court is within her right to withold consent to a dna test

category12 · 26/05/2018 10:20

If he's not on the birth certificate, he would have to apply for parental responsibility through the courts. If he already has it, it's too late really. You could argue for supervised access only or move away, no forwarding address.

eightfacesofthemoon · 26/05/2018 10:33

I apologise. I don’t mean to say it’s “easy” easy. But he can do it if he wants to and he’s persistent. It is possible. Lots of people think it’s a simple as not putting a name down. But it’s not that simple.
I think in most cases a lot of men just give up. But if they don’t give up and do go through the courts then it’s a difffeeent case altogether.
I guess you have to just hope he’s a deadbeat who doesn’t really care.

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