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Bad relationship with workaholic father

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PrinsPolo · 23/05/2018 13:16

I posted something similar in Chat a few days ago but no responses so decided to try here as this is really playing on my mind recently.

My parents have just been for a short visit (about a week) and, like always, I found it quite hard to get on with my father. I really don't like spending time with him. He is not rude or unpleasant really, though I sometimes feel he still treats me like a child at times which grates. The main thing is that I think I harbour quite a lot of resentment towards him for the way he was during my childhood. I start off with the best intentions of being friendly but always slip into being very curt with him, which I then feel very guilty about. At the root of the problem is that I just don't really respect him and I'm not sure what I can do about this to improve the situation.

My dad wasn't a terrible father in that he wasn't at all abusive nor was he completely absent. He just was barely a father at all. I don't know whether it's being melodramatic to class it as neglect but to me it feels like a mild form of neglect.

His job was his life and his family was not a priority at all. We barely saw him during the working week and he was frequently travelling with work on the weekends too. If Dad was there for dinner on a school night, that was an event. Even when we were on family holidays he'd always be working on and off. He managed the occasional weekend bike ride or trip to the swimming pool but day-to-day parenting was almost 100% done by my mother. He was more like a fun uncle or something. He could do the playing and the joking and the fun activities (though infrequently - as I say he was not a daily presence in our lives) but beyond that we knew not to expect anything. On the rare occasions he had to actually look after us he was like a cartoon clueless dad, needed detailed instructions from my mother as if he was a babysitter rather than our parent. I remember one time in my childhood when my mother was really very ill, bed bound, and this forced his hand rather but he was terrible at everything. He did absolutely nothing round the house, either, besides fixing things and mowing the lawn.

Of course when we were little we worshipped him. Access to him was so limited and he only did the fun stuff, so we adored him and craved his attention. He probably thought this meant he was doing a brilliant job. Now I am an adult and have my own children and I can see how rubbish he was. He provided for us very well financially but he was not really a parent to us.

In many ways I had a really privileged childhood and I don't want to compare myself in any way to people who really had awful parents. But it does actually still really hurt that we were always put second to his work. I internalised it and accepted it as a child but I think about it now as an adult and a parent myself and it makes me quite sad and angry (for my mother as well as me and my brother). The thing is I don't think there's much point in complaining to him now as the past can't be changed and I'm sure he'd claim that he only worked so much to provide a comfortable life for us.

I can't help comparing him to my DP who works to live, not lives to work, and is really my equal partner in raising our two children.

Anybody have any comparable experiences or advice?

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Aussiebean · 23/05/2018 16:15

Your feelings and sadness are very understandable but you are probably right that you might not get what you want.

I imagine he is of the older generation mind set that the man provides and the woman looks after the kids. He may have thought he was doing right by you. And is happy that he was able to.

It is only relatively recently that the conversation about men actually being involved in their children’s life has come up.

My dh was subjected to loads of comments when he was a sahd just over a year ago. Reading pregnancy forms, there are a load of women who face not having their partners take paternity leave because their work places have made it very difficult for them to leave. It’s only for two weeks fgs. Shared care is also not being taken up because of stigma or bosses that punish those that do.

I am not saying you are wrong but there maybe elements at play here that don’t fly today. My parents had to go to a different hospital so my dad could be present at my birth. The first one refused to let him in. That’s less then 40 years ago.

You could have a go at talking to him. Maybe just ask him general questions about that time. Find out if it was out of disinterest or genuine thoughts that what he was doing was right

That may help you going forward and working through this lot of resentment that will only build and get worse.

familyfirst1 · 10/08/2021 11:56

Hi,

I know this thread is super old but stumbled across it whilst searching the internet on how to cut my father out of my life.

I feel like I could have written your post.

My childhood is very disjointed as my mum told me another man was my father until the age of 10/11 and I then found out about my real dad who I started to get into contact with. Over the years my dad is an extreme workaholic. He values work over family time with the constant response of "I have worked all my life to provide for my family" we have lived in enormous homes (far bigger than we ever needed) and he has sports cars which he never drives because he's never home.

As I have grown older (I am now 33) and have my own son, our values and views on life are extremely different and we can no longer see eye to eye. We have had an extreme fall out this weekend (on my birthday) due to his behaviour, he was very moody, didn't speak or look at me once and had private conversations with my younger sibling, I explained to him why I was unhappy to which he sent me a torrid of abuse. I feel he is a narcissist and there is no resolving the issue - just a few snippets form the messages "You selfish RUDE little girl do not message me again you have been warned goodbye" - "one day you will realise that all my life I have worked to provide for everyone you included. You are rude, selfish and have no respect! The words that have come out of your mouth are disgusting and untrue!" this is in response to me telling him he is never around, spends no time with his grandchild (my son won't even go to him because he thinks he's a stranger), doesn't respond to messages and photos I send about his grandchild etc (the last photo I sent it took 2.5 months for him to even open the message and he still didn't respond).

I am feeling very sad that it ended this way (would have much preferred it to end in a way where we just stopped talking without an argument) however I also feel very relieved that I know this is the end. There is no going back, I don't agree with his way of life and he doesn't agree to mine (he accused me of living off the state and having an abundance of free time - I own my own business, don't have a single penny in benefits and I am award nominated for my business and hardwork but because I do not work for his company this is not acknowledged)

Did you cut communication with your dad? how do you feel some time on?

I really regret letting him into my life all those years again because its just resulted in years of mental torture, anxiety and depression. They only thing I gained was a very clear and definite understanding of how I do not want my son to be raised and his upbringing x

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