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NC with my dm for 10yrs, do I really want her gone forever?

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Pl0nker · 21/05/2018 19:59

My dm abandoned me & my brother when he was 4 & I was 8. My parents divorced and my df got custody. He was violent, neglectful and sexually abused me - for years, I'm in the process of taking him to court - decades later. I didn't have much contact with her after she left. I managed to escape mid-teens & was fostered. At the end of fostering there was no follow-on care offered and I went to stay with my dm because I had no other option. She kind of made me beg which was humiliating. We actually got on ok at this time as we'd both grown a little. I never held it against her that she left because I knew she'd had her reasons (which I've never learnt). But over the years she continued to ridicule & humiliate me in a low-to-medium level way. She denied my experience. When I was happy at work, she'd say 'It's not like that in the real world - but it was my real world. I never felt valued. When I went to live with her, I didn't have a 'nice' bedroom of my own, I just had her spare. It was like no one really cared. I'm still surprised she never noticed how emaciated I was as a child when she had access visits.

She behaved appallingly when I got married and I couldn't fathom what was wrong? When I had my own kids, she looked at me in awe and said 'You're SO nurturing' and I remember thinking 'this is what you're supposed to be like', though I didn't say it. I remember in my 30s she offered me £300 one day and I nearly choked. I was like wtf? Where was that money when I had no coat to wear to school and I froze in the middle of a snowy winter.

In the end I cut her off because I'd bunked 14 xmas's in a row with her and had truly run out of excuses. I wanted my dc to have a wild xmas day with chocolate for breakfast, the cartoons on, paper all over the floor & high excitement. I just couldn't bear to go to hers with the golf masters on tv, no presents till after 5pm & kids having to be quiet. I hated the cold, clinical atmosphere.

Since we've been NC I've received my whole medical records - what a revelation. They detail now I got constant vaginal infections as a toddler & abuse was queried but denied. We had a family psychiatric assessment when I was 4 because she wanted me 'sorting out'. In it she's described as 'cyclomythic' and she's quoted as saying 'I have nothing but coldness in my heart for that child'. It details how my primary attachment figure is my father. How I try to sooth my dm's tears - at 4! How she attempted suicide.

In the time I've been NC she's written 4 times. She wants me back in her life. I believe she'd now do anything I asked, including therapy. She's had two episodes of cancer, the last very serious. She didn't expect to survive. I believe this is true. I think if I stay NC the internal pain/shame/cancer will probably kill her within the next 5yrs. So I have a choice. Can we ever truly let go of our mothers? Do I tell her that if she agrees to therapy there is the possibility of a new different relationship? I've had bucket loads of my own therapy but there's still some kind of pull. I guess I'm thinking about my court case because she's a witness and I'll see her there. But she was just as much to blame really because she abandoned me to him.

I want to make a final decision once and for all and then get on with my life. This business has killed me, I'm NC with my entire family. What do you think I should do?

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lovemyboys25 · 21/05/2018 20:03

Didn't want to read & run. Take time to think & go with your heart.
Hope you get some good advice

MrsBrown28 · 21/05/2018 20:06

Only you can decide what is best for you - personally I'd get rid of the toxic and make a fresh start for myself and my family. Hope everything works out for you x

Aprilmightbemynewname · 21/05/2018 20:09

My childhood wasn't as bad as yours op. Many hugs to you...
I was nc for ten years, then a fleeting attempt for a year but same old critical bitch tbh.
Been nc for 6 years +now and it will stay that way.
Grieve for the dm you should have had, walk away and don't look back is my advice.

Have you a rl friend to talk to when you need one? You are a fab, strong woman and you don't need her.

Wishfulmakeupping · 21/05/2018 20:09

You really have to put yourself and your dc first in all this.
But if you’re asking what I would do in your situation? Then I would maintain the nc- you are the victim in all this op it’s not your job to make your dm feel better about it all.

brassbrass · 21/05/2018 20:13

You have made a life for yourself despite what they both did to you as a child. You owe her nothing. Do what nurtures you, put yourself first before any sense of duty or obligation. If she wasn't ill would she still be reaching out to you? Do whatever's right for the little girl that was abandoned

Jesuisleloup · 21/05/2018 20:19

Do what’s best for you and your children. Do you have to decide now? Could you wait til after the court case ? You may hear things in it that might help you make up your mind

Put yourself and DC first. You will never regret that. good luck

ArchchancellorsHat · 21/05/2018 20:39

Do what's right for you and your children - what will give you more peace? You don't need to persuade yourself into contact with her if you want to stay NC.

FogCutter · 21/05/2018 20:53

You say that she wants you back in her life but you don't say what you want. What's in this for you ? Or are you still feeling the fear, obligation and guilt that we often feel towards our parents?

I responded to my mothers attempts at contact after a few years NC, she 'behaved herself ' for a month or so then normal vile behaviour resumed, imho a leopard never changes it's spots. NC again now!

Best of luck with your decision xxx

LeChatDeNuit · 21/05/2018 21:28

Flowers for you.

I didn’t experience the level of abuse you did but I was abused (physically, sexually and emotionallly) throughout my childhood by both parents. Mainly my father. My mother never did anything to stop it and sometimes even joined in because she was afraid of him, though my child and teenage self didn’t grasp this. I hated her for years and until recently was NC. I have since spoken to her about the abuse which she has finally acknowledged after years of denial. I think it’s because my father has been dead for a number of years and she is no longer dictated by him.

I have contact with my mother once a week or so, just a text message. We have spoken on the phone a few times but I find it too much for now. She isn’t pushing for more and I do actually respect her for that.

About a decade ago she had cancer and I remember how horrendous it felt to be under such pressure to make contact. My father was badgering me constantly to speak to her. For some reason I was more angry at her than I was my father. Anyway, despite her illness it wasn’t the right time for us to make amends.

What I’m clumsily trying to say is that you need to do what is right for you. If you feel obligated to speak to her because of her poor health, it might not be the best option. However, if you really feel like you might regret not having contact then I think it’s worth a shot. Contact doesn’t have to be all or nothing. You can decide on the pace. As I said, in my case contact is restricted to text messages. Perhaps in the future I will meet up with her but at the moment I don’t feel comfortable with that. If she decides to get huffy about it then it’s all over, and she knows that. So if you do decide to make contact, put some boundaries in place - either in your head or made clear in a message.

Personally I feel very little for my mother. I don’t see her as a mother but rather, just somebody I used to know. I don’t really see that changing any time soon, but I’m glad we’re in contact again because it has helped me make sense of some of the abuse I suffered as a child.

Feel free to PM me any time x

Pl0nker · 21/05/2018 21:45

FogCutter thank goodness you pointed that out - that she might be ok for a while but then revert to type, I hadn't considered that.

I think I'm struggling a bit mentally with the thought of 'falling' into her loving embrace again Hmm or rather, the loving embrace that was never quite there in the first place. From when I was very young I remember thinking 'When your time comes, there is NO WAY I'm looking after you'. And I've always been firm & happy in that decision. I will not be doing her weekly shop or making sure she can get to the doctors and I don't care the consequences.

I am guessing that if she nearly didn't survive with her last bout of cancer, that my step father won't bother telling me she's about to die & call me over. So potentially I might never know. I'm not in contact with anyone else in my family. There will be no inheritance to tell me she's died. She told me years ago, everything goes to her current husband and after him to his brother. I thought that was a bit crap, nothing in life & nothing in death either. It's like I was erased from her mind. And yet she needs me now, to assuage her shame from the rest of the family, who must be looking at her with some judgement after so long a silence from me.

One of my issues in making contact is that I'm sure she wouldn't be able to keep it to herself & all the others I've cut off would then hear about me - I don't want this. I don't want my cousins & aunts peering into my life from a distance with goggle-eyes over the gore when I'm still feeling so much shame.

LeChatDeNuit What a bloody awful time you've had.

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