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Marriage issues

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Kerry0805 · 17/05/2018 16:54

Hi, I’m looking for a bit of advice. I have been with my now husband 5 years, we had a bit of a whirlwind romance and I got caught pregnant 3 months into our relationship! We now have 2 children and married 2 years ago. We was happy for a while until my husband started being verbally abusive. It’s difficult to understand why I stayed and married him but it wasn’t all bad, we would go through stages of arguing and him calling me name and saying things just to hurt me then he would say sorry and we could be fine for a good while and have a really lovely time together (this made me feel like everything was fine and we was all happy until the next time it started). I think I’ve finally realised how unhappy he has made me, I used to feel like leaving during arguments or straight after but the days that followed he would be so loving and say sorry I didn’t want to leave. But now the feeling of wanting to leave is not going away. I’ve spoken with him and I think it’s hit home, he’s promised me it will never happen again and he will work to change. He got very upset and I felt bad. But I’m starting to feel it’s a little to late, I don’t love him like I used to, I constantly feel on edge and have to think about things before I say them, not knowing what kind of a mood he will come home in and even now he’s fine with me I still feel anxious waiting for the next time. I’m scared of upseting him or making him angry because I find him quite scary during arguments, he’s never hurt me but I’m worried he would. I’m not sure what to do anymore. We have two young children and I don’t want to upset them but I’m scared I’ve fallen out of love with my husband and if I will ever get that back even if he does change. I’ve also found myself thinking about other men and I feel awful about it. Has anyone ever been through this or have any advice?

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Haberpop · 17/05/2018 17:02

You can get it back but it takes time and work on both sides and you have both want to get the love back. He says he is going to stop but what plans has he put in place to make sure he does stop doing it? Is he seeking some kind of counselling or help?

MyRelationshipIsWeird · 17/05/2018 17:12

Hi Kerry, I’ve been through this and it’s so hard with the constant swinging between being deliriously happy and then walking on eggshells in case you set him off.

I have been to counselling and my DP has been going separately for a couple of years. We ended up splitting up and I think that was the shock we both needed to sort ourselves out. Given the option of starting from scratch with other people and having to change the way we interact, or trying again together, we chose to try again.

It’s been so different. I have more confidence to say how I feel, I am putting less pressure on him to be all things to me, but somehow that has made him more loving and attentive towards me. He is now really thoughtful and respectful when we talk about a problem. Of course we’re not perfect but so much better than our previous few years.

I think the only way to get past it is individual counselling (don’t bother with joint yet because he is being verbally abusive and couples counselling will just give him more ammunition to throw at you). My counsellor pointed out the issues but didn’t push me into making hard decisions, just presented me with the facts about verbal abuse etc and toxic relationships and asked me to decide what I wanted. I chose to split from him and then after some time apart we talked and decided to try again.

If he’s committed to being a better partner he can do it with work and you can build yourself up so that you don’t tolerate even a little verbal abuse and can shut it down before it starts. When you change the dynamic between you it will change everything. But he needs to value your relationship enough to put in the work. Luckily my DP did and does, and now I do too. I thought I’d be ok without him and that’s quite empowering, knowing that I’m staying out of choice not because I’m stuck with him.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 17/05/2018 17:16

Kerry

What did you learn about relationships when you were growing up?.
Did you grow up seeing similar in your own childhood?. I wonder if you actually knew this man at all prior to marriage, it seems that you really did not and you became pregnant very soon after starting this relationship.

What he showed you (an image which is really a mirage) and what he actually is (a verbal abuser) are two very different things. Small wonder therefore you are thinking about other men but you really do need to extricate yourself from this marriage first and give yourself time and space to heal. Your recovery from his verbal abuse will only properly start when you have left him.

Such men however, rarely if ever change and staying for the children is rarely if ever a good idea. I presume this is only why you stay now; well that and perhaps some love for him, fear of him and the unknown going forward amongst other reasons.

What do you want to teach them about relationships, surely not that it is ok for their dad to abuse you verbally as their mum?. They will hear this, see your reactions both spoken and unspoken to him and pick up on this over time. It is no legacy to at all leave them. You would not want that for them and its not good enough for you either.

These types of men often say sorry and promise to change but in reality they are paying lip service to the problem and do not want to change. How is he going to work to change, many abusers as I have said do not change. He seems still not to want to take responsibility for his abuse of you. He does this because he can and it works for him on some level, he likes bringing you down to his base level. Do not make this the norm for your children, a loveless verbal abusive marriage should never be their reference here.

Some abusive men often only show this side of them when marriage and or children come into being because they think it also makes it harder for their intended target to leave. This is who he is and he is probably all sweetness and light to those in the outside world. It is you (and in turn your children who pick up on all the vibes) who cop his verbal abuse of you. Abuse like this as well thrives on secrecy; time to bus this wide open now and not keep this a secret any more. What are your family and friends like, can they support you here?.

Re your comment:-
"But I’m starting to feel it’s a little to late, I don’t love him like I used to, I constantly feel on edge and have to think about things before I say them, not knowing what kind of a mood he will come home in and even now he’s fine with me I still feel anxious waiting for the next time. I’m scared of upseting him or making him angry because I find him quite scary during arguments, he’s never hurt me but I’m worried he would".

Walking on eggshells is code to my mind for living in fear. No-one should live like that.

If you are in the UK I would urge you to contact both the Rights of Women organisation rightsofwomen.org.uk/ and Womens Aid on 0808 2000 247. Keep posting here too. Make plans to leave and keep yourself safe.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 17/05/2018 17:19

Joint counselling is a non starter and is never actually recommended when there is abuse of any type within the relationship. This is also because you need to be able to talk freely in a controlled and safe environment and with him that is an impossibility. Also such men can and do manipulate counsellors.

This whole happy and alternate walking on eggshells state is really the cycle of abuse and that is a continuous one in such dysfunctional relationships. Their nice/nasty cycle is really a continuous such cycle.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 17/05/2018 17:21

Remember this too:-

The only acceptable level of abuse in a relationship is NONE.

namechanged77 · 17/05/2018 17:49

@Kerry0805 - I could have written your post, except have been married for longer. Definitely don't leave it as long as I did - for you and the DCs, who'll become more aware as they get older.

Chances are that he won't change I'm afraid, so make your decisions with that in mind. And it is his choice to behave like that (they always manage to control themselves with friends and at work somehow..) It isn't anything to do with what you said or did, no matter how he may try to twist things.

Good luck Thanks

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