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Persecuted By Ex

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ElenOfTheWays · 26/04/2018 10:58

Hi. I'm actually not sure where to post this but the general problem is my ex who is suddenly trying to destroy my life.

A few years ago during a time when DH and I were going through a bad time and we separated for a while I had a fling. DH knows this and, although he wasn't happy we sorted it out and have been moving forward. One thing he insisted on was that our kids (his and mine from former relationships - we have no kids together) not know about it. This particularly applied to his kids (both girls - women now) as they were never that close to me and he felt they would be judgmental.

When I ended it, ex threatened to tell the girls and was only talked out of it by my mum at the time.
Long story short; he has now some time later sent a vile and detailed message to both about me and what happened.
They were extremely upset and a little frightened as he comes across as unhinged frankly. Of course, they have no idea who he is.
The contents and the fact he did this upset DH a lot and we came close to another break up.

We both thought it was over and done with. After a shaky month, though, we are getting on with our lives again and trying to move forward.

However, we are currently living apart still, and I am on disability benefits. In one of his messages, ex threatened to "shop" me as claiming fraudulently (I'm not - he knows this, he even helped me make my claim as he is disabled too)

He is clearly vindictive enough to do this and I am worried. I know I'll be vindicated but an investigation would be stressful and I think they stop payments while it goes on. I can't afford for this to happen.

I believe that if he reports me maliciously and this can be proved, he can be prosecuted but experience tells me he is unstable and quite possibly won't care even if he knows this.

My stepfather suggested that there are organisations for abused women who might be able to help me with this. But, although he was abusive in the relationship I'm not sure that this counts as abuse now we are apart. Also I have no idea how to find these organisations.

Can anyone suggest anything I could do to prevent him doing this or hassling me and my family further? Would legal action be appropriate?

I am not afraid of him physically. The abuse was emotional and I don't believe he will turn violent but I am fairly sure (no real proof) that he is stalking me. He knows a good deal too much about my current life to be explained any other way based on some remarks in his messges.

I am also aware that the fact his messages went unanswered is likely to enrage him and push him to take further steps. He's narcissistic and hates to be ignored. Both messages ended with the offer of further information if asked for, suggesting he really has no self awareness at all and believes his behaviour is reasonable and justified. Rather than frightening and insane.
The messages have to be seen to be believed and he overplayed his hand massively by telling many (pretty obvious) lies and allowing his obvious misogyny to show. This is why it backfired in his intent. It made DH hate him (more than he already did) rather than hate me - the obvious intent behind it.

I don't think, therefore, that he's finished with me. Any advice gratefully received.
Thank you

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hellsbellsmelons · 26/04/2018 11:19

How long were you with him for?
You could try Womens Aid.
They may be able to point you in the direction of local support services.
I would also call 101 and explain all of this to them.
They may not be able to do much but get it on record in case it escalates.
You should be able to get something in place to stop him harassing you and your family. Again, Womens Aid can help with that.

dirtybadger · 26/04/2018 11:22

Might be worth contacting the Stalking Helpline (think its called National Stalking Helpline), if you believe you may be being stalked

ElenOfTheWays · 26/04/2018 11:27

Hi. The relationship lasted about 2 years in total. On and off. But it took longer to "evict" him entirely from my life as he used various blackmail methods to keep hanging about. Seems he's not as evicted as I hoped.
Thank you I will ask Women's aid and try the helpline.

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ddrmum · 26/04/2018 17:28

Paladin the stalking network would be helpful. You should report it to the police - he might back off completely if they had a word.

SandyY2K · 26/04/2018 18:52

What a nasty man he is. I'd probably speak to the benefits office and let them know a malicious Ex has been threatening you and show them the messages.

ElenOfTheWays · 26/04/2018 19:20

He is a very nasty man. He attacked me and my mum and daughter in the messages. Really nasty stuff. I was a fool there.
I might try a pre emptive strike with the DWP. The messages shoe clear malicious intent.

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ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2018 14:57

Right. I just realised today that ex is on my claim as an advocate and phone contact due to my anxiety about speaking to strangers. Surely this, along with the message continuing the threat is clear proof of malicious reporting?
Not to mention that it makes him an accessory to the supposed fraud.

I'm wondering if it's worth pointing this out to him.

Also, does anyone know if I can have him prosecuted for malicious reporting. Harassment maybe?

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ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2018 14:58

I've had him removed as an advocate btw.

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DaisyLux · 27/04/2018 20:14

What did the stalking helpline say? Did you try Women's Aid? I think you need proper advice, also if necessary legal advice from the Police on this before you do anything, as you may inadvertently make things worse. I wouldn't be "pointing" anything out to him either - you are engaging with him then, most likely what he wants. Keep evidence.

ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2018 21:59

I agree I'd much rather not engage. I know it's exactly what he wants. But another part of me wants to finally stand up to him.
Police and stalkers helpline both said I would need more evidence than I have. Although what's happened so far has been logged.
I guess I just want him to go away. But it's not going to be that easy I don't think.

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ElenOfTheWays · 05/05/2018 12:36

Ok. So I just had a letter from the DWP saying I'm being interviewed at home. Its not "under caution" and doesn't look particularly sinister but surely this is beyond coincidence?
It's just barely possible that it's a random check or that I triggered it myself by ringing them to have ex removed as an appointee.

Any advice, or a better place to post this? As this seems to have gone beyond relationship advice now.

Thanks

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Thingsdogetbetter · 05/05/2018 12:50

The fact that you have logged him as harassing you will go a long way in your favour if he has tried to shop you to DWP.

I think you down playing that you are not in physical danger means the police and stalker helpline aren't taking it as seriously as they should. And neither are you. You have no idea of this man's limits especially if he has MH issues.

If he is texting, changing numbers is good unless you need to keep gathering evidence. Likewise with email accounts.

Ring women's Aid and ask how to go about getting a restraining order and do not say you aren't afraid of him. He's not getting the message and will probably up the harassment to get the reaction he wants. Better safe than sorry!

ElenOfTheWays · 05/05/2018 13:04

Hi. Thanks. Tbh I am getting a bit afraid. He seems to have gone into vindictive overdrive suddenly. I will ring 101 again and stress this. It's never occurred to me that he might get physical. This sort of petty behaviour is more his style and not entirely unexpected but he does seem to be escalating.

You are absolutely right. Better safe than sorry.

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ElenOfTheWays · 05/05/2018 14:48

Rang 101 again. They are sending someone out. I guess I made my point this time. Still not sure about the DWP thing.

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 05/05/2018 16:36

The DWP should understand once you show them the texts! Try not to panic. It will be fine. Just be sure to follow through, let the police and DWP take whatever action against him that they suggest, don't try to stop them because you feel sorry for him or fear his next step.

Stay string and get him fully evicted from your life this time.

Good luck!

ElenOfTheWays · 05/05/2018 17:06

It's funny you should say that curious as that has always been my default position. Don't poke the bear, in the hope he won't do anything. But this time I've decided not to back down.

I was really hoping (and still am) that I wouldn't have to show anyone the messges especially as he states his "reasoned opinion" on why he doesn't believe I was raped when I was younger. He shows himself up as a total fuckwit there but still, it's private stuff, you know.

I think he might actually be counting on that. Well he's underestimated me. I'm past caring.

Thank you Smile

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 05/05/2018 17:21

Good for you!

Any man who decides you can't be trusted to know if you were raped or not deserves to be shown himself in the mirror.

It may not change his personality, but you get the knowledge that you did not let that pass!

Have a really good Bank Holiday weekend, in the sun, relaxing...

ElenOfTheWays · 05/05/2018 17:42

Thanks. You too 🌞🍹🍦☀️

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DaisyLux · 05/05/2018 18:37

Good the Police are sending someone out. I am not sure of the legalities exactly (they should tell you) but I would imagine they can warn him NOT to contact you again. If he does, I think you would have immediately legal redress, and maybe criminal (harrassment, stalking).

ElenOfTheWays · 05/05/2018 18:50

DaisyLux That's what I'm hoping. I posted in legal too but I guess all the legal beagles have their feet up on the sunlounger Grin.

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