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Mumto2nearly · 13/05/2007 15:37

Sorry, this is going to be long! I have been a "lurker" on MN for some time now and have enjoyed the discussions and gained valuable advice and information but it is not until now that I have needed personalised advise from you all. I hope that is ok.
A little background....
I have been married approx 4 years and have a gorgeous 2 year old girl and I am expecting my second baby in approx 4 weeks. Between my DD and my soon to be DS I had 2 relatively late miscarriages, at 11 and 12 weeks (the second a day after a perfectly healthy scan picture). I work pretty much full time and my husband works away from Monday to Friday almost always.Until last night, I thought I had an exceptionally happy marriage. You have probably guessed that this is where the need for advice kicks in!
Last week, I was sat with my husband when he was on his works messaging service (allows staff to communicate between offices on a real time basis)and there was a message from a girl, lets call her Sarah, which said something along the lines of "yippee, you are back and talking to me". I commented that this seemed a little odd and my DH said she was being sarcastic. I though nothing more of it. Then last night, he turned over in bed and put his arm round me and said "I love you, Sarah". Well, I leaped out of the bed (not easy at 8 1/2 months pregnant as I am sure you will all appreciate!) and said what did you say and he said it again (he had, had a few drinks). At this point I got out of bed in a blind panic and grabbed his mobile to see what was on there.
Well, there were some awful, depraved pornographic video clips and lots of pictures of womens breasts/bums and some more pornographic type images. DH then woke up and came in and said they were sent by 2 of his male friends and indeed upon watching one of them again I could see that there was indeed a man in one of the videos that wasn't my husband.
Being furious by this point, I demanded he get his work laptop because I wanted to check his email. Upon opening his emails, I found lots of emails between him and Sarah. They started with "getting to know you" questionnaires, family pet, favourite colour that sort of nonsense. But they progressed to one from her regarding sexual conquests, favourite positions etc etc. There were also work emails where they were both clearly trying to get on the same jobs - where they would both clearly have to stay in the same hotels.
My husband has acknowledged that the emails are not entirely appropriate and he can understand why I am upset and tbh he is being lovely. The emails were also not at a pornographic level like the pictures on his phone so I believe that they are not from Sarah. However, I have this awful sinking feeling like I am in a bad episode of Trisha where I am being the completely stupid and naive wife believing all he says.
I don't know what to do and I feel like my entire world is crumbling around me. I would completely acknowledge that being pregnant after 2 miscarriages hasn't made me the most attentive wife but I thought he understood that. I feel like I don't know the man I am married to, my loving husband has turned into a depraved and dishonest man that I don't recognise in the space of a few hours.
I have considered contacting Sarah to get her side of the story (I have her work email and her mobile phone number). I have considered walking out and never coming back but I love him and can't begin to imagine my life, or my children's lives without him. Can anyone offer any advice as to how to deal with this?

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mylittlestar · 14/05/2007 11:23

thank you shiny

I want to shake him too! In fact I want to punch his lights out at the moment!!

But just taking each day as it comes...
He has a hell of a lot of work to put in now...

iknowhowshedoesit · 14/05/2007 12:04

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warthog · 14/05/2007 12:27

leave it to your dh. he's done well so far. do not contact her as you'll get caught up further. make it clear to him that he's got to rebuild your trust again. esp. as his timing is soooo bad.

Genidef · 14/05/2007 12:31

A few years ago someone's wife at my office did just that - turned up at the building asking to see the supposed mistress. People have been talking about it ever since. Ironically, the only person that anyone felt sorry for was the other woman who people actually started to believe may have been the victim of a false accusation, that she was having the affair with the guy. the couple in question both came off looking really badly in it, and the guy was so embarrassed he eventually left a few months later. Not logical, I realise, but that's just how it played out.

Mumto2nearly · 14/05/2007 12:34

IKHSDI, I suspect it was quite hard to come on this particular thread and admit that.

I have a very naive outlook to life, (I aspire to hobbitdom if I am honest), and my DH knows that and knows me well enough to know what hurt and betrayal I would feel from his activities. Your situation may be different, I don't know.

I am still considering contacting "Sarah" to make sure she knows what a bich I think she has been (although jointly with my DH, 2 to tango and all that) - how would you have felt if the man's wife had contacted you? Would it have made you feel shity about it all? (which is the impact I am hoping for). I also really think her husband has a right to know, do you think this would give her a kick up the ar*e to tell him?

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 14/05/2007 12:59

Mumto2nearly

Your main priority is both you and your husband and not going off on an argument with this Sarah person. She in all likelihood will deny anything inappropriate and perhaps well accuse your husband of wanting to try it on with her. How would you feel if you heard that from her?. It will just give her more ammo to throw at you.

For all you know Sarah's husband may well know what she is like and this is repeated behaviour on her part.

Your husband has certainly had an emotional affair to date and emotional affairs although they can start innocently enough can end up being physical. I would say your husband never actively walked into this with his eyes open; he just got caught up in the fantasy of it all. Far better for him than trying to deal with the reality of his wife's miscarriages. I am not excusing him at all; he was not able to express his feelings to you properly and this may be partly why he embarked on such an emotional affair.

This is by the by really but the content of the work e-mails is more than enough to get them both sacked. Many firms do not take kindly to such stuff being written on company time; they are both fortunate that their employer did not read their mails (as is their right to do I might add).

Would you both consider Relate counselling?.
Feel this is vital for both of you.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 14/05/2007 13:01

marriage.about.com/od/infidelity/ss/emotionalaffair.htm

You may find the above helpful

iknowhowshedoesit · 14/05/2007 13:07

If his wife had called me I would have denied everything because nothing happened.
If she had confronted me, I had plenty of texts from him that were unprompted and would have made her feel terrible. The blame is squarely 50/50, but again, nothing happened.

It would not have made me feel bad or worse than I already do. I only feel bad now because wiht a bit of time and distance, it was all so stupid. We both just needed a bit of 'feeling attractive', 'feeling young' and if we had known how it would have hurt our partners, we would not have carried on.

Dont call her, I think you will just open up a can of worms and it will probably not answer any questions or make you feel any better in the long run. I agree with Atilla and Warthog on this, that it will not serve any purpose or more importantly, make you feel any better.

Mumto2nearly · 14/05/2007 13:12

My goodness - the warning signs on this site describe my DH completely.

I thought he didn't want to be "intimate" with me because of the fact that I was starting to look like the back of a bus and the fact that he seemed withdrawn I put down to the fact that we weren't intimate as much as usual!

I agree that counselling is something we need to consider otherwise I am afraid that we will never get back what (I thought) we once had.

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LilyLoo · 15/05/2007 09:10

mum2nearly2. I hope that you can both get the counselling and this can only serve as a warning to him how quickly things like this can spiral and damage family's. Take care x

thegardener · 15/05/2007 14:17

In the mean time how about a fab pic of the three of you to put on dh's desk

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