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Broken engagement and broken heart

44 replies

Clytemnestra1 · 04/04/2018 16:16

My fiancé broke the engagement after 3 months. It came as a shock because he made such a fuss to propose- flying over to visit my family, and ask my Dad for permission, bringing them all to dinner and splashing out on an expensive engagement ring. He did all this of his own accord- I put absolutely no pressure on him.
We were very happy for a time but then I found out I was pregnant and I didn’t feel we were financially ready. He wanted to keep it and felt we could move in with his Dad. My parents and best friends live in another country so I would have no support, and his mother and father had an abusive relationship so I was wary of living with him. I felt it was the wrong time and I decided on a termination. He accepted my decision at first, but as the weeks bore on and I was really suffering with sickness, he offered no support and became cold and distant. One night, while he was drinking, we had a massive argument and I retreated upstairs but he followed me and put his hands on my throat. I thought he was going to kill me. Afterwards, he apologised and begged me not to leave so I felt sorry for him and stayed, on the condition that he wouldn’t drink again. On St Valentine’s Day, I was grumpy and sullen because I felt so sick and nauseous all the time. In retaliation for my moodiness, he drank the entire bottle of champagne that he bought for me. I knew that it meant he had broken his word, but it seemed like he was the nearest I had to support during that time.
Immediately after the termination, things appeared to return to normal but as the weeks passed he grew less affectionate, and more withdrawn. He accused me of being a poor communicator but when I did listen, all his problems were caused by me and this unfairness annoyed me. When I tried to explain my side, I was interrupting or starting a ‘pissing contest’. On my birthday, he didn’t get me a card or a present but he brought me to dinner (paying with the joint account). He didn’t make much of an effort that evening. The following evening, I had a flu and was feeling under the weather. He said he wanted to end things.
I understand there were a lot of problems, and I’ve had a lucky escape in many ways, but I can’t understand why he would propose and promise a future and then change his mind a few months later. It seems like he’s a different person now- he’s become so cold. All he asks about is whether I intend to leave our place to him, and he keeps demanding the ring back. If I give it back, he promises to pay the rent for us both but he’s broken his word before. Besides, he has all the furnishings and has been soending my money since we began dating, leaving me with no savings, so I don’t want to give it to him. I know it’s crazy, but because I promised to, I intended to stick with it, weather the storm, and find solutions to the problems. He said that was the kind of relationship he wanted. I’m grieving because it feels like the rug has been pulled out from under my feet. Any advice would be much appreciated.

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Personalsituations99 · 04/04/2018 18:38

They are your furnishings and it is your ring. You paid for. Take them and leave the deposit if thats all you're leaving to him. Of course it was about money. Thats all he's gone on about. Dont suppose he is offering to leave? No because he cant afford to setup again like you payed for in the first place.
Its all about money!
What would he do if you asked him to leave? You can persumably afford the place alone?

GreenTulips · 04/04/2018 18:51

Go and pawn the ring

He can't get it then

Stop worrying about him and start worrying about yourself

expatinscotland · 04/04/2018 18:56

'So do you reckon he wanted to control me and the money and he saw the termination as an act of defiance that he couldn’t abide?'

YES! I was with an abuser. The second he found out I wasn't going to roll over and play to his tune he got nasty. You are in danger. You need to get some friends in or hire a man with a van to go in with you and get your stuff out. Tell him you won't discuss the ring until he agrees to give back half the money for the deposit and the furnishings. STOP sharing what you're doing with him, the relationship is OVER, it's now no longer any of his business what you do.

I'd consider getting a restraining order on him.

Throttling is a very serious offense.

Gemini69 · 04/04/2018 19:19

he can't access your money can he ?

Clytemnestra1 · 04/04/2018 19:58

He won’t give me anything for the furnishings and he’ll get aggressive if I ask. He lived with his mother so he could go back to either of his parents though he doesn’t want to, because if he keeps our place he has his own space. He earns more than me, though he didn’t when we first got together. He can’t access my money.

He’s refusing to leave and says if I don’t give the ring then I’ll have to pay half the rent until the end of the lease. He’ll turn nasty if I ask for anything, plus I have no where to store it.

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Gemini69 · 04/04/2018 20:08

you Pay nothing .. not a penny. he's not the Boss of you.. move out and take everything you can whilst he's at work....

He isn't in control of you ..... remember that... and keep reminding yourself.. you are Free of his shit Flowers

expatinscotland · 04/04/2018 20:11

Get hold of the landlord. You will NOT have to pay half the rent if the LL agrees to let you off the lease and re-issue it in his name.

The fact that you've written twice that he'll turn nasty or aggressive if he doesn't get his way is chilling.

You need to get out of there, like yesterday. Do you have any friend you can stay with? I'd kip on the floor if I had to. Book a day off or ring in sick and move your stuff out whilst he's away even if you have to rent a storage unit.

Pawn the ring.

See the police and tell them about the situation. Tell your work, too, so they know he's not to see you.

Clytemnestra1 · 04/04/2018 20:47

I left and I’m home with my family now. I took what I could carry and left what I wouldn’t miss too much (just in case I don’t see it again). When I go back, I’ll stay with a friend. He doesn’t know where I am but he keeps messaging me about the ring and making threats that I’ll be stuck with a lot of debt if I don’t give it back. I can’t contact the Landlord because it’s let through an agency but I did explain everything to them and hopefully they’ll let me out of the lease. Thank you for all the advice and support everyone! I can’t believe how silly and naive I was with him, but as you say, now I’m free.

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CheeseyToast · 04/04/2018 21:30

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Broken engagement and broken heart
expatinscotland · 04/04/2018 21:38

'I left and I’m home with my family now. I took what I could carry and left what I wouldn’t miss too much (just in case I don’t see it again). When I go back, I’ll stay with a friend. He doesn’t know where I am but he keeps messaging me about the ring and making threats that I’ll be stuck with a lot of debt if I don’t give it back. I can’t contact the Landlord because it’s let through an agency but I did explain everything to them and hopefully they’ll let me out of the lease. Thank you for all the advice and support everyone! I can’t believe how silly and naive I was with him, but as you say, now I’m free.'

I wouldn't bother coming back. They can't pursue you from abroad. I'd just let them know I had to leave the country due to domestic violence. If I were your mother I'd be terrified of you coming back because this man could kill you, and no, I'm not exaggerating.

KEEP all his messages and texts. Do not delete them and in fact, back them up and forward them to a trusted family member or friend.

Clytemnestra1 · 04/04/2018 21:45

If he doesn’t know where I am I should be fine to see out my contract with work until the end of year? It won’t be easy to just get another position at the drop of a hat.

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Gemini69 · 04/04/2018 21:50

tell him to sing..... you are not returning the Ring Flowers

expatinscotland · 04/04/2018 21:56

'If he doesn’t know where I am I should be fine to see out my contract with work until the end of year?'

He can and will stalk your work. That's happened before. You can't underestimate people like this, you really can't. Throttling you is considered domestic violence by law and as Cheesey said, is a serious incident of it. I'd explain to work to see if they can offer any other options but you need to make your safety top priority.

Sell the ring. It's your property.

Clytemnestra1 · 04/04/2018 22:09

But he doesn’t seem to care. He focused on moving on. He might just leave me be? There’s a security team at work so if you guys think I’m really unsafe, I can let them know. He was so adamant about moving on that I really can’t see him bothering me.

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GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 05/04/2018 09:25

Very glad to hear you are with your family, they can offer you real life support. And I would let the security team at work know what's going on just in case.

Do not budge on the ring. I think the reason he's going on about it so much is a) The money and b) It's the only thing left he feels he can control you with.

Stand your ground.

Quietlife1979 · 05/04/2018 09:28

You’ve had a horrible time but you’ve had a lucky escape love Flowers

Clytemnestra1 · 05/04/2018 13:18

I didn’t see that I was in danger. I thought I pushed him to say and do nasty things in rage, because I’m stubborn and argumentative. I felt so sorry for him when he got upset, and I believed that he was trying to be better. I now know that I was blind, so thank you all for helping me come to that realisation, and to feel certain that I won’t go back.

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Gemini69 · 05/04/2018 13:48

he'll promise the earth... ignore him and protect yourself and your financials [flowers

expatinscotland · 05/04/2018 20:01

Yeah, that's really common among abusers, gaslight you to make you believe you caused them to abuse you. I had an ex who did this. Told me stuff like I was mad, drove him to it, blah blah blah. It's standard script for abusers.

Do NOT engage with him any more. Not at all. He's abusive, he's abusive, he's abusive, he's abusive.

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