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Help to untangle a problem!

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coatsandhats · 30/03/2018 20:05

There’s an issue in my relationship/life but I can’t put my finger on exactly what’s bothering me- or at least I can’t explain to my OH exactly what’s bothering me. I’m really hoping someone here can help.

I’ve tried to talk to OH about it a few times but each time, I don’t feel that I’ve quite got to the heart of the issue and I’m stuck. I’m posting here in search of some insight or clarity.

The thing is that I feel my OH is excessively negative about his life. Not about me or our DD but he never has anything good to say about anything else in his life. Even to the point when something positive happens, he’ll puncture it by finding the one negative thing about it. This applies to his work and social life, and to current and future things.

I feel so dragged down. I’m exhausted by it. I work very part time (freelance) and the rest of the time I look after our 16month old DD. So sometimes he’s the first adult conversation I have all day. And it’s just a tirade of doom and gloom, and moans, and complaints.

I wouldn’t mind if it weren’t for two things:

(1)I don’t get enough time to do the things I need/would like to do, my social life and friendships have changed beyond recognition since I had a child, my career is languishing in the doldrums, my days mostly consist of dealing with tantrums/picking up food/playing toddler games. An old friend of mine has cancer and I think she’s going to die. I’m fundamentally lonely and whilst I love our daughter and our life, I do miss my old life. I’m frustrated that I’m slow at getting my freelance work going, often because all the domestic stuff falls to me so I end up doing things like DIY or sorting a plumber on my “work” days when DD is at childcare. But I just get on with it as I think this is kind of par for the course with a toddler, and I just try to make steady quiet inroads into forging new friendships and developing my career. I try and make the best of things and I try and find good or positive stuff to talk about in the evenings as I don’t want to compound the negatives of the day by dwelling on them in the evening.

2)To anyone looking on, his life would seem pretty good. He is successful in his job, receives plaudits and praise from all levels of his industry on a very regular basis, and he works in his “dream” industry. He does work very long hours (sometimes out of choice) and of course there genuine gripes about aspects of work. He has a great social life at his fingertips - some of it is related to work so he “has” to go although it’s usually to events that he enjoys. Sometimes he’ll spend all week being all doom-laden about how terrible X or Y is going to be. Then it happens and it’s amazing and he has a great time while I’ve been stuck at home with nothing going on except having listened to him complain about it for the past week.

Where I’m getting stuck:
When I try to explain how I feel, he seems to think I’m saying I don’t want to hear about his problems. Or that I feel he doesn’t ask me about my problems enough so we should have equal time to complain. That is not what I mean.

It sounds unreasonable in my head but I think what I really mean is that: I wish he’d get a grip and open his eyes to all that is good. I don’t want him to bottle up actual problems but I guess I want him to perceive fewer problems. But is that even possible? Am I being a cow? Am I basically saying “don’t get upset by things because I haven’t got the inclination to care”? Am I taking my frustrations out unfairly? Maybe I’ve forgotten what full time work is like.

I’m starting to feel angry and resentful, and I hate it. I tried to speak to him last night about it but I can tell he’s taken it as hurtful and that I’m unsympathetic and today I know he won’t say anything about his day when he gets home.

Anyway, this is SO long. I hope someone has bothered to read all the way to the end. I’d really appreciate opinions or advice.

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TheVeryHungryDieter · 30/03/2018 20:27

That sounds really tough, OP.

If he was a facebook friend, you'd quietly have unfollowed him by now. There's nothing harder to experience when you're having a hard time than someone grousing over minor shit while they don't appreciate what they have got, when it's so much more than you do.

I think there are two issues here: one is the negativity, and the other is the fact that you personally are having a difficult time and have no support. They're not necessarily linked, although they do feed off each other. If you can isolate those issues, and work out what you need in order to tackle each one, you might have more luck than trying to deal with them together?

There's a lot of reading you can do if you search for "partner is negative" - some of it may have tips that would help, but only if he is open to it. It would require a lot of work on his part to counter that though, and you may need to do some thinking about what you would do if the negativity never changes, only becomes entrenched bitterness - because as we age, these traits can become more pronounced.

The other issue - that you're having a hard time with no support. I'm really sorry, and you're right, you know, this is a tough time as a parent, a tough time as a worker, there isn't much to look forward to or much opportunity to do anything to lift your spirits, it's frustrating and you can feel like you're living groundhog day again and again just waiting for this phase to pass and life to start looking up again. (Been there!) And I'm so sorry to hear about your friend, that must be very difficult for you, especially when you already feel so alone. Maybe you could speak to your GP, and see if you can get a therapy slot? If you don't have anyone else to talk to, sometimes it makes the world of difference to pour it all out to someone who won't judge you and who can point out the things you are doing well and the coping skills you can use to get on with it, and the tools to see you out the other side. I was lucky enough to get 10 weeks of sessions when in a similar position, and it really helped me. I'd have been fine after 6 weeks tbh if bloody brexit hadn't sent me into a tailspin (I'm an EU citizen and I panicked).

Sometimeitrains · 30/03/2018 20:52

Sounds to me like he needs to come at his problem from a solution focused view otherwise it is literally just a whinefest. I.e worried about an event can you help me think of ways to make it fantastic -rather than just complaining.

Equally it does sound like you have a lot on your plate that he needs to help and offer support with. Your isolated, your life has fundementally changed and you may loose Someone close to you. In comparison his complaints are minor and if I was in your shoes I would resent him for having such minor stuff on his plate and not offering to support you with the major stuff on yours. Equal air time seems justified, him being hurt by it just sounds typical.

The partner that continues working never seem to understand the fundemental loss of identity that can occur when you go from being you to a mum at home with a baby for the first time. I think they just assume we are living the dream and can become quite self centred and wrapped up in themselves.

coatsandhats · 09/04/2018 20:07

Thank you so much for your thoughts and replies. I’m sorry I have taken so long to reply.

I read both of your posts when you posted them and ended up having a conversation with my OH the next day. It went so much better than my previous efforts- I think the suggestions about separating out the two issues helped me say things much more clearly.

Also, your (both of you) sympathetic replies not only made me feel better immediately but I felt vindicated, like it was ok to feel how I do.... so I was more confident to say to OH what I needed to say. Especially about my friend. I had a really honest cry to OH about how sad I feel about it, and that helped.

Things aren’t resolved, not by any means, but I’ve noticed Oh hasn’t been moaning half as much. I’m not sure if that’s because he’s decided to keep everything to himself (which is not ideal) or whether he’s had an epiphany and realised life is not that bad.... either way, our evenings are much more pleasant and I don’t feel so bloody overwhelmed.

Thank you again Flowers

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coatsandhats · 09/04/2018 20:09

Oh, and I totally agree about the therapy slots. I’ve actually already had some last year for anxiety (my baby had a life threatening illness when v young and I was so sad and anxious afterward, even though everything turned out fine). The therapy helped me so much. I’m not sure if I would be able to have any more on the NHS but I’m going to look through all the materials they gave me and see if there’s anything I can do to help myself again.

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TheVeryHungryDieter · 11/04/2018 11:27

I'm so glad it's been useful. Hope it lasts - but if it doesn't (because we all slip back), that you now feel you have the tools to nip it in the bud and keep on track!

Very best wishes xx

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