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Delayed anger

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freshair47 · 26/03/2018 10:10

It was DD birthday last week and she was asking about details of her birth, day, time , how long she stayed in hospital etc

This has stirred up something in me and I feel quite angry about what happened surrounding her birth with my OH . I am having difficulty gauging whether I was right to feel uneasy at the time but made to feel that I was making a deal of nothing .

When my waters broke there was meconium in them . At the hospital they started my contractions . I was on a canister of gas and air , when this ran out I asked my OH to go tell the staff , my OH said to wait until the staff came back in the room, I had to beg my OH to go and tell them as I was in a lot of pain. As the night went on I started to feel very unwell . After the delivery of my DD , OH was put out that I was offered tea and toast and he was not offered anything ( he still goes on about this to this day , in a jokey manner but it really grates on me ).

After the birth I was placed in a ward with 3 other women . By this point I felt very unwell and said to my OH that I didn't feel well . He made no attempt to tell the staff how unwell I felt .

OH took his paternity leave that week . I was still unwell in hospital and by say 3 I was moved into a separate side room . There was no toilet attached to the room so I had to wheel the baby down to a loo in the corridor . Oh only visited a couple of hours in the morning and a couple in the evening . He went to play football as normal on an evening and went drinking afterwards . He also went into town drinking with his workmates . OH used his paternity leave as a week off for himself .

I was allowed home after a week in hospital ( suspected pneumonia never confirmed ). I was still very poorly .

I had a GP appointment booked for the first morning I was home ( this was the last day of OHS paternity leave ). In the morning OH stayed in bed , I got up, got the baby ready and walked to the GPs . The baby would not stop crying and the GP staff were lovely and let me sit in a side room as I was still quite poorly . My GP was cross with the hospital that they had allowed me home and quite cross that my OH had not brought me to the surgery .

OH returned to work after the weekend and carried on going to football and going for works drinks . I was struggling at home , hardly eating , struggling with the baby . Possibly had PND. The midwives came to me for 4 weeks and my HV came to me for 10 weeks .

I feel very angry with my OH as at the time when I asked for his support and asked him to come home on time or miss football to going out after work he made me feel like I was controlling him .

I have always looked back on this and felt uncomfortable about it but since last week I feel so angry about how my OH treated me , made me feel I was asking for too much .

I feel angry that he gave everyone the impression that he was a supportive OH and a hands on dad when in actual fact , he put his own needs ahead of ours .

Am I justified to feel angry about the situation ?

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WotcherHarry · 26/03/2018 18:38

Honestly - my ex was very similar to this. Lots of problems but after postnatal sepsis and meningitis for both me and my son (you couldn't make it up!) and various other issues... well, we are mid divorce right now.

Life is too short to stay in a marriage where you feel disrespected and and that you don't even figure on your husband's priorities.

Bingisatwat · 26/03/2018 18:42

He sounds awful, so sorry you've had to put up with this all these years. You don't have to keep putting up with it though, you're completely justified in how you feel about him.

TheLastNigel · 26/03/2018 20:14

I also recognise my ex in this... and the horrible realisations years after the fact that you were and are justified in feeling angry is a bit blind siding.
Can you get some therapy in your own? It's the only thing that helped me really.
He has treated you very badly OP and he has cleverly made you think you have been at fault. No one is perfect, but as you describe his behaviour he has behaved appallingly and so any reactions you have had to to that have probably been very valid.

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 26/03/2018 20:20

I am hardly surprised you don't want to be in the marriage any longer. He's been fairly openly fucking around for years.

What prompted him to drag you to couples counselling? He doesn't sound like the type.

Have you seen a solicitor yet?

lookatthesizeofmylaundrypile · 26/03/2018 22:31

I went through something similar with my OH. I've just finished 6 weeks of therapy and I've now let go of the anger. I won't forget it, but I no longer get angry/tearful. I can talk to him about it in a very matter of fact way

user1499333856 · 27/03/2018 05:47

I just want to say that I really understand where you are coming from regarding your DH's total lack of support when you were a new mother. I had the same thing going on and I resent it still to this day.

I do think you have a separate issue going on with your DH and his inappropriate behaviour with other women too.

You don't have to accept that in any way. Therapy can help you process the anger regarding how he let you down at the hospital and with a new baby. Also, really strong boundaries to ensure he doesn't continue to neglect you and his share of responsibilities.

Good luck, OP.

Angelf1sh · 27/03/2018 06:02

You had every right to be angry then and every update makes me angrier still on your behalf. Before the updates I was going to tell you that you had good reason to be angry but needed to let it go asvit was years ago, but after reading your updates I think you should just get rid of him. He’s clearly cheating on you, gaslighting you and being a general prick.

Fishface77 · 27/03/2018 06:26

Disgusting horrible piece of shit.
Get out op.

freshair47 · 27/03/2018 14:03

Thank you everyone for your thoughts on this .

It is quite frightening to see how much I had been made to doubt my gut feeling during that period of time .

The poster who asked about why we are in counselling now , I had a major meltdown , smashed plates , threw everything about the office , felt I was being played again and something in me snapped .

Have had a couple more meltdowns since , feel very angry at being messed about with, realising how messed up OH is and having had to be on the receiving end of it .

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GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 27/03/2018 14:37

I'm speechless that you're still married!!!

Your OH is an arsehole. He's a cheat. He has been gaslighting you for YEARS.

I'm not surprised you're angry!!!

You do NOT have to stay married to him. Show your DD what having some self respect means.

cestlavielife · 27/03/2018 15:22

You need to be apart....The next meltdown someone will.get Injured
Take charge
move out or he does
Get some space
Now
Your own counsellor

How many dc and ages?

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 27/03/2018 17:42

Yeah, you were being played again.

You seem to be waiting for his permission to leave. Like, if he does it again it is OK.

I suspect your meltdown came from unwillingness to get on and dump him when a big part of your brain knows that it exactly what you have to do. He does not have to admit anything for you to see a solicitor and initiate divorce. He does not have to have done anything for you to initiate divorce, you can just say that you can't get over his past bad behaviour.

Those meltdowns may well be your brain fighting itself.

Heard of cognitive dissonance?

freshair47 · 27/03/2018 19:42

The more I watch him the more I realise that what he says does not match what he says.

I'm not looking forward to having to spend time with him over the Easter break , watching him pretend to be something he's not .

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GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 27/03/2018 19:49

What are you going to do freshair?

What do you WANT to do, in your heart of hearts?

Do you want to get legal advice? Could you talk to someone in real life?

freshair47 · 27/03/2018 19:50

The children are 13 and 10 .

We have talked of him moving out since I had a flip out and since the counselling . I need time away from him , all he does is confuse me further but I've started to notice the pattern his talk takes . I'm not prepared to compromise any more .

This latest event with his family and his lack of support with that has made me realise I can't rely on him and I've started to cover my own back .

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freshair47 · 27/03/2018 19:52

I've got things in place , I've always been savvy like that . I think I might speak to someone just to clarify what I already know matches what they say .

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GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 27/03/2018 19:56

Good for you.

Seriously glad to hear that.

I really hope you can get away from him for some headspace, whatever happens next. Make sure you keep us posted!

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 27/03/2018 19:58

Remember you don't have to talk to him. You can act like everything is OK, you are too busy and tired to spend any time chit chatting with him though.

Meanwhile all your energy goes into getting your ducks in a row.

Waste no more energy on catching him out, trying to understand him, trying to make yourself accept and forgive him. It will be liberating.

ICESTAR · 31/03/2018 09:20

Get angry op. Get this job's worth out. You are worth so much more than this. So proud of you being savvy and having things in place. The rest of your life begins now. CakeFlowersWine

Lizzie48 · 31/03/2018 10:08

You are definitely right to be angry, OP, he's treated you appallingly. It's good that you're in a position to leave him now, you should definitely move on and get on with the rest of your life. Thanks

BettyBaggins · 31/03/2018 10:25

Time to get out or get him out op. Double check your facts, don't dilly dally. I am a plate thrower too.

greenberet · 31/03/2018 11:02

Op you know there is a saying that says when we are ready to cope with something it will present itself to us to deal with.

I think this is where you are at now - do not ever feel guilty about why you did not notice before or seemed to do nothing about it - you did notice your body has been telling you but now it is saying enough is enough time to take action.

You had to get in a place where you will be emotionally strong enough to take the next steps - whatever you decide these are - your kids are at a good age where they are starting to be a bit less dependant on you.

How many counselling sessions have you had? What has the counsellor said about your relationship?

your breakdown at work probably happened here because deep down you would have been worried about how your DH would have acted had your anger been directed at him where it was rightly due.

you have an opportunity here to get your DH out the house - use it - you will not be able to think clearly whilst he is around you _ he will continually try and get you to doubt yourself.

As others have said maybe now is the time to really consider where you want to go with your life - do you feel the counsellor you have been seeing would be supportive if you saw her alone or is she unable to do this - maybe you could consider starting again with someone else - I know some counsellors will not counsel you individually after seeing you jointly but I had one session with my x and the counsellor was able to identify narcisstic traits in him.

The plate throwing you know I wish I had done this - my x had me believing it was all me and as I suffer with depression it was pretty easy for him.

It is 4.5 years since he left ( with Ow) he did me a favour because I'm not sure if I would ever have have left him - I tend to give people too much benefit of the doubt - but my anger over his treatment of me since he left has been raging - I have posted on MN - still do - I'm told I should be over the anger - but I will be over it when I'm over it!

In your situation I would try not to let DH know how you feel - get yourself sorted - speak to a solicitor if this is what you want - your DH has been taking the piss for many years he may not like it if he sees you getting stronger and suddenly retaliating - his family sound as though they will be of no help to you

Through the counselling has your DH acknowledged any responsibility or has it all been on you - just really trying to gage how he make take it if you decide you want out.

Keep posting on here you will get lots of good support - good luck x

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