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Stepping away from a long friendship

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northernlights0710 · 25/03/2018 17:25

I've been "best friends" for decades with a woman I met at school. I left our hometown in the north 20 years ago and live in the south. She has always lived in our hometown.

In the last decade or so she's gone through a lot of sh*t. She got divorced and her ex made her life hell. She was ringing me almost daily, wanting to talk for at least an hour. But when I had to get off the phone she would start crying.

I've always worried about her and felt guilty if I didn't return her calls straight away. She found a new boyfriend who turned out to be controlling and lived off her. Then her ex-H persuaded her son, aged 14, to live with him, which destroyed her. She finally dumped the BF but he stalked her and the police got involved. I've been listening to the ins and outs of all this for over ten years.

For years I've sort of dreaded her calls not because I didn't like her but because, while I'm sympathetic to her problems, it's hard to get her off the phone and she seems to expect me to talk for about 2 hours. When I say I have to go, she just carries on talking, or sometimes she sounds sulky.

She has friends but does not have much of a life outside work and seeing her son. My sister said that my friend is "just lonely".

I don't know if I've only noticed this in the last year or so but I've realised we're very different. I think her experiences have made her bitter and hard.

This was brought into sharp focus when we went on holiday recently, when she was constantly telling me what to do and berating me if I didn't oblige. When I gave my opinion - calmly - on why I didn't agree or want to go along with her, she accused me of "trying to put a wall between us".

She thinks she knows best and as long as I'm doing what I'm told and agreeing with her all goes well. She likes to be "right".

I find her prejudices hard to cope with: she's critical of southerners and Tories. (I'm a Labour voter but have friends and family who vote Tory.) She has frequently criticised my family, calling my brother in law a "c*nt", my sister "stuck up" and my niece "spoilt". My niece is not spoilt and my sister and her husband are wonderful, kind people who I am very close to. I told her: "Please don't say that. X is my family member and I love them/ ... or "my brother in law is a great guy." Even if they weren't wonderful, is this how normal people speak of their friend's family members to their faces? I feel that she doesn't respect me.

She has little empathy for other people but expects them to have sympathy for her. I recently thought about leaving my job over a change to our conditions but decided in the end to stay. Partly because I was suffering severe anxiety at the prospect of making myself unemployed in a poor job market (in my industry). I am on my own with a mortgage to pay and no pension.

She was unsupportive of my decision to stay in my job and I had the impression that she thought I was weak and spineless. She works for the government and has a job for life and a great pension.

We haven't spoken now for several weeks because I haven't felt like taking her calls. I texted her instead a couple of weeks ago to say that I was busy and hoped she was ok. But still she is calling me. I have not yet responded to the latest missed calls because I don't know what to say to her.

I don't want to hurt her feelings and I don't want the drama of a 2-hour discussion about our friendship. I just don't feel like talking to her. Whether or not I will continue to feel this way I don't know.

If anyone could advise me how to deal with this, I'd be grateful.

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northernlights0710 · 05/05/2018 18:53

Thanks Quilthead.

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Betarocker · 05/05/2018 20:08

I'm in a similar situation with a friend of over 40 years. We met 1st year of high school and have shared so much over the years. I supported her through a breakdown 9 years ago and everything was fine...until my husband died 4 years ago. Then all the little niggles and comments I had shrugged off and reactions I hadn't expected all became crystal clear. She literally cannot empathise with my situation at all. My grief, my children's emotions, loss of identity, loneliness and sadness just didn't impact on her and this realisation has floored me.

It was my husband's anniversary in April and she didn't remember and that was the last straw. A mutual friend reminded her and even then she didn't ring or even send a one line text.

When my life was happy I didn't notice how self centred she was. It washed over me for the most part but now it is glaringly obvious and I'm done. I'm sad but if I'm honest I don't miss her. The last 4 years she has brought nothing to my life and I'm moving on. Hope you can too.

AuntyElle · 05/05/2018 20:33

I don’t think you’re being over sensitive or anything else. But the fact that you didn’t draw a line under things before meant that your door was still open at her next time of need. I can totally understand you don’t want an end of friendship discussion with her, but a brief email saying that the friendship is not working for you anymore seems a good idea. And then don’t take any further phone calls.
I think this is important as from your update it sounds like she is really getting under your skin. Eg “Maybe I'm just someone who can't stand the truth or to have people disagree with me. I don't know.” I don’t think that is true at all. But she is further denting your self-confidence. And I can’t see her changing for the better.

Iflyaway · 05/05/2018 20:43

She was ringing me almost daily, wanting to talk for at least an hour. But when I had to get off the phone she would start crying.

She sounds awful. Treating you as a therapist. Fuck, even a therapist would not put up with that!

She is the most wonderful opportunity for you to put your foot down to people walking all over you.

I recommend The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz.

sonjadog · 05/05/2018 21:07

I think you are handling it well by backing off and reducing the contact. Eventually, I think you will either reach a point where the contact is at a level that is acceptable to you, or it naturally reaches an end. I can understand why you are loathe to discuss it with her and I don't think blocking someone is an acceptable way to end a friendship that has lasted for decades.

northernlights0710 · 06/05/2018 19:51

Thanks for your replies everyone.

Looking back, I do feel that I've been an unpaid therapist and I remember her saying not long ago that she felt she was getting more out of our friendship than she was giving back. That's when she was going through a relationship break up and I just listened and listened and listened to her and supported her ... for hours on end.

I haven't heard from her this weekend so I assume she is waiting for me to contact her but I feel I've done my bit by calling her, texting her and sending her a card. I won't chase her or seek her approval.

I forgot to mention before that after we spoke last I sent her a text message reiterating that I was sorry about her loss. That I did have some issues with our friendship that I was happy to discuss when she felt ready and that hopefully we could get our friendship back on track.

I don't think the friendship will ever be the same again, but I'm not worried about that right now. If we are meant to be friends then we will overcome this but I will not be a doormat any more.

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