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I don’t know what to do, advice needed

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SurreyH · 18/03/2018 10:34

Hello, it’s my first time posting on here, sorry if I go on.
I’ve been with my husband for 17 yrs, married for almost 3 yrs; we have three children between us but none together (miscarried 4 yrs ago but that’s another story).
I’m interested to know how others would feel in my situation.
We both work (him full time, I do 33 hrs avg per week) but I do 100% of the housework. This is how it has always been, my fault for letting it be like that I think. He comes food shopping with me most 75% of the time, he pays when he’s there, I pay if not. We have separate bank accounts, no joint account, no mortgage/rent outgoings each month as the house is part of his job; I realise how lucky we are in that respect.
I’m at the point now where I have had enough. Clothes are aimed at the washing basket or dropped down the stairs for me to wash, he doesn’t know how to use the washing machine he says. He wears shirts everyday for work, I have to iron them all; he will ask me to rather than do one himself.
He doesn’t cook, tidy up after himself, do any household chores at all (not even the garden or remembering to put bins out, I text him from work to remind him).
I’ve recently started to wonder what I am in this marriage for as apart from some food and that he pays for our holidays every year (where he chooses, never my type of holiday) there is little else. I suggested we have a joint account a few weeks ago and he said no as I’m “s* with money”. I’m not.
Our intimate life is almost non existent, I feel so resentful that I have lost all interest. We don’t socialise together, he has weekends away where he takes his son (19) as he doesn’t do anything on his own. It seems that my daughter and I have one life, they have another. Our family is very divided at the moment.
Another problem is my stepson, I have been in his life since he was 3. He left college almost 2 yrs ago and has not yet found, or applied for, a job. He is being given work by my husband as he sometimes needs extra help in his department at work, is earning around £11 ph extremely part time, so has no inclination to find a job which pays around half that. He spends most days in bed til 3pm, spends hours on his xbox/iPad, eats once a day, washes clothes when he’s run out of clean ones, reluctantly empties dishwasher or recycling bin when I ask and that’s it. Contributes nothing financially but my husband still pays for his phone and buys his food.
Mother’s Day last weekend made me really think. My husband turned down an invite to go to his family for lunch, saying we were doing something else. We didn’t do anyth8ng else, except he came with me to get some food so I could make afternoon tea and bought his deceased wife some flowers to take with his son to the crematorium. This was the first year that I did not get flowers/card/mention of mother’s day from my two stepsons. I am well supported by my daughter (17) who is almost as frustrated as me.
I could go on but I think you probably get the picture.
I realise that I need to talk to him but I’m delaying things as he has the worst temper and will think he has done no wrong, he will turn things to make it seem like it’s me who is in the wrong. I’m not perfect but all I want is a happy home life, a loving husband and to feel like I’m supported.
Any advice will be greatly received.
Also, I have left him once before in 2008 for almost a year, lived apart for 6 yrs before moving back in and getting married.

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Mumontherocks1 · 18/03/2018 13:50

You should be really enjoying this stage of your life. Your DD isn't a baby and you have so much freedom. I'm at your stage and I love it.

It's fantastic that your DD wouldnt contemplate being a skivvy to some man. My DD is a bit older than yours and if I ever suggested this role for her she would give me one of her withering looks and she would be dead right.

Honestly you really only live once. As a nurse you know how tough life can be. Don't sacrifice your life for people who don't value you.

I know this is a worst case scenario but could you be a full time carer to him if something awful happened? He doesn't sound very nice and you ready skirt around him so you don't set off his bad temper.

Myself and DD do things together. We are planning a holiday in the sun. Life is really nice. It's far far from perfect but we don't have to deal with someone who thinks so little of us that he flings his dirty clothes in our general direction.

You are a person who should be valued. You are valued in your workplace and you come home to that level of disregard from him

Please put yourself first. You could have a loving home with DD filled with love and things you like.

Adult children are challenging, I have 2 of them! I can say hand on heart that there are times I think I can't stand them. I 100% know that I wouldn't be able to tolerate other people's adult children lying in bed, eating pizza and treating me like I am not even worth a card on Mothers Day.

You are a young woman and you can have the life you want.

SurreyH · 18/03/2018 14:18

I’m planning on talking to him on Wednesday when I have finished work, although he has just hit the roof Over an Easter egg that has been eaten before Easter Sunday... I really do despair. Our talk may well happen before then now.
When we were apart he used to pay his sister to do his shirts, his oldest son would do the laundry (he’s not at home now). The money helped his sister out at the time.
I can’t imagine being his full time carer, no, that fills me with dread.
Just about to go out with my daughter as you can cut the atmosphere with a knife.

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Mumontherocks1 · 18/03/2018 14:27

That's a terrible way to live.

Mumontherocks1 · 18/03/2018 14:31

Myself and my kids will eat several Easter eggs before Easter and the only comment will be 'mmm that was gorgeous'

Iooselipssinkships · 18/03/2018 18:42

Me and DP end up eating the selection boxes we've bought DC before it's even been Christmas! Your DH is uptight, misogynistic and his son is following suit. Get the hell out, stop washing their pants and enjoy freedom with your daughter. Like PP have said, it's beautiful.
I'm not emotionally involved so it's easy for me to say and harder for you to do, but it will be SO worth it.

MyBrilliantDisguise · 18/03/2018 18:50

I know what I'd do. I'd talk to my daughter in private - away from the house - and tell her that you are both leaving. Tell her you're going to find a two bedroomed place and that within a month you'll both be living there. She mustn't say a word about it at home. Honestly, I reckon she'll be cheering you on.

Choose somewhere close to work so that if you work longer hours it won't be too bad. If your daughter has to travel a bit further for school that doesn't matter so much at the moment as she only has a few months left, I assume. Is she going to university or will she get a job?

Quite honestly I wouldn't tell him until I had a flat booked and paid for and I'd got all important documents etc out of the house. Start to make a list of all the things you need to take with you. Don't forget all marital assets will have to be shared, though you will be able to put your deposit down on your new flat without sharing it!

Thebluedog · 18/03/2018 20:32

Sounds like a thoroughly miserable existence for you. He’s got his live in cook, cleaner and general dogs body. You could lay down the law and insist he pulls his weight or pays someone to do it for him, but it sounds like he’d still be a miserable sod.

Tbh life is too short to put up with this shit. Hi and find yourself a fun, fulfilling life without this fun sponge

Thebluedog · 18/03/2018 20:33

Oh and me and dp have already had to go back to Tesco TWICE and replace the kids Easter eggs - that should be what it’s like, not kicking off because you’ve eaten a selection box ffs

SurreyH · 18/03/2018 21:08

Well, I’ve just asked him I I can talk. Didn’t go down well at all. First thing he said was what’s the point, that I’ve had a bad attitude for weeks now so if I’m not happy I can just f*off. I stayed calm, asked if we could just talk like adults but he wouldn’t. Told me that the last time we had this sort of confrontation he felt like killing himself as he was obviously so useless and didn’t realise. He said he isn’t going to change, he’s 51 and it’s too late for that and he doesn’t want to anyway. He told me that I should leave my pathetic job and go full time at my local hospital so then we could afford to pay a cleaner/ironing person. I don’t want that, I love my job at a health centre, I just want some help at home. It’s not going to happen. He’s now stormed out and when I asked him where he’d been he said to pray. I asked what for, he only has to change his ways, as that’s not going to save our marriage. Got swore at again someth8ngbto do with ‘his’ God as I’m a non believer. I’m at a total loss. Looks like it’s beyond saving now. 😢

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Thebluedog · 18/03/2018 21:13

I agree OP, it does seem like it’s beyond saving. You can’t make him change, only he can do that. I guess you’ve got to decide if you want to stay, and things stay the same, or you take control of what you can do and split.

Cambionome · 18/03/2018 21:20

He sounds horrible and quite unhinged with his comments about "his God". Confused

You don't need to put up with this shit op.

letsdolunch321 · 18/03/2018 21:33

Hi there,

Concentrate on looking for a place to rent for you & your daughter.

Get whatever you need in place to leave the house. Fingers crossed you & your daughter will be in a new place within 2/4 weeks.

DON’T think about how he will cope. His choice is to be a selfish prick so let him get on with it.

Treading on eggshells is not a way of life.

SurreyH · 18/03/2018 21:48

He is very good at turning the tables and trying to make me feel guilty. We’ve all had failed relationships but we pick ourselves up and crack on eventually. Not him. The time I left him in 2008 he was off work with depression (it’s never left him), and now he’s just told me he felt like killing himself the last time we had a confrontation late last year.

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PrizeOik · 18/03/2018 22:36

He sounds a right knob end. Actually I'm quite fond of knob ends so maybe that's not even the right thing to call him! He just sounds like a spoiled, manipulative child.

Suicide my arse. He's trying to shut you down while retaining your domestic services. Hoping that guilt and shame will be enough to keep you putting up and shutting him.

Seriously though, fuck him and the horse he rode in on, how fucking dare he.

Op don't get sucked in to thinking you need this absolute knobbers permission to go. He doesn't have to like it, he doesn't have to agree. You can still go.

Please just tell your DD you're fixing to leave and then do it.

If he's going to kill himself over the fact that he won't have his shirts ironed for him... Jfc. Then I'd say he was too delicate for this world tbh.

If he does actively threaten suicide, please promise me you'll instantly and very calmly dial 999 and have the police deal with it. If he's serious, they're the only ones who can help. If he's not, hopefully he will dissolve from the well deserved embarrassment of it

hellsbellsmelons · 19/03/2018 10:06

Make your plans today to get away from this.
It will bring you further and further down and your poor DD doesn't deserve to be in that environment.
Get onto estate agents and get a rental sorted out ASAP.
Leave him to himself and his filth.
He's a lazy entitled cunt and he can fuck off!
Find your anger and get out!!!!

SurreyH · 19/03/2018 11:12

Thanks so much for all of your advice and understanding. I’m still in disbelief at the fact we ‘talked’ for twenty minutes and it looks like our relationship is over... over seventeen years seems to mean nothing to him. My daughter is desperately sad about it all, left the house in the snow in tears. My stepson came whistling down th stairs...that says a lot really.

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Cricrichan · 19/03/2018 12:26

Ah right. So it's you that has to change jobs so that you can afford to pay for someone to do chores that are beneficial to you both?

And he'd rather kill himself than do some chores?

The entitled man isn't even trying.

HipsterAssassin · 19/03/2018 12:27

Honestly, take control, contact an estate agent and a solicitor - you’ll feel immediately better! You and dd will be fine.

Sometimeitrains · 19/03/2018 17:23

Hmm sounds lime he is trying to pull you into a drama around his wellbeing to deflect attwntion away from his behaviour. Go with the broken record method when he starts stick yo the facts i.e thi isnt about last time though is it. This isnt about you feeling like killing yourself though this is about something else. Etc.

couchparsnip · 26/03/2018 17:54

Are you ok OP?

SurreyH · 26/03/2018 22:06

Yes I am ok, thank you for your concern couchparsnip.
It hasn’t been great at all since last Sunday and I’ve just sat down this evening and finally said (most of) what I wanted to say. He disagrees with a lot of what I say but will try harder to help. Will move forward now and see what happens. The proof will be in his actions.

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couchparsnip · 27/03/2018 07:01

Well done for speaking up but its honestly not a good sign that he disagreed with you. He isn't taking your concerns seriously enough. He is going to 'help'. It sounds like he still thinks the housework is your responsibility and nothing to do with him. As you say, his actions will be the proof. I'd be making plans to leave because he sounds unlikely to change.

SurreyH · 10/07/2018 01:11

Not sure if anyone will see this message.. husband has just blown up again this evening. He called a tv character a slag because she had a child and no husband to support her, my daughter and I exchanged glances and then she spoke up. She said that he shouldn’t say that as I had her while I was on my own. He then stormed off saying he can’t say anything any more and while ranting told me to f* off.
He seems to have forgotten all about our previous row as mentioned above and just remembers it as me being horrible to him, no mention of the hideous things he said to me.

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AMAWriter · 10/07/2018 01:19

Come on, you know what you have to do. Your daughter wants you to leave. He's horrible. What are you teaching her?

SurreyH · 10/07/2018 01:33

She and I know that his behaviour is awful, but I wouldn’t go as far as to say she wants me to leave him. It’s very difficult.

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