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Should I stay or go?

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crossroads1 · 16/03/2018 12:44

Hi all,

I'm new here. I'm not married but have been with other half for 6+years. Last year we talked about getting engaged and things were the best they had ever been. He even brought the ring.

To cut a long a story short he started becoming really close to a female colleague, she would constantly send him msgs and in my gut I knew something wasnt right. To put my insecurities at ease I met her and thought I was being silly. Fast forward a few months and she sends him a pic of her in her underwear i see it because I snooped through his email (he saved it and emailed it to himself)and went mad and told him to cut off contact. He assured me they were just friends and she flirts outrageously with everyone. However since the beginning of the year he started going hot and cold and saying he didnt know if he wanted to stay with me or get married. This week shit hit the fan, I went to his work and saw them two leaving together, i didnt hear from him the whole weekend and when I eventually did he admitted they have been sleeping together (at work and her flat) and she has told him she loves him. He stays at her place and they seem to act like a couple. I was floored, even though I had suspicions I didnt think this affair was going on. On top of this he has been abusing cocaine and alcohol, smokes constantly and admits he is depressed. He has been signed off from work and said his mind isnt clear and he isnt thinking right. I believe this because I know this isnt the man I have known for all this time. He said he hasnt been coping for a while and he liked being in her company. After the affair was exposed he was apologetic but reverted back to 'my head is a mess and I need to sort everything out.' Forgot to add he is also in debt, has no savings and is working in a dead end job. I understand all of these stresses and have said I want him to get better and that we can try but deep down I don't know if I should or if I want to. This has been going on for 3 months whilst he told he needed space to sort himself out but really he was getting closer to her. Ive seen msgs in his phone of him telling his friends that his heart is with me and he will finish with the OW but he never did. Sometimes I would hear from him, sometimes I wouldnt. which wasnt like him at all but I know now that is of his own guilt. He says he knows he has ruined everything and I will never look at him the same, which seems like he has already given up. But what he is saying is true. I was cheated on before and they didnt sleep together but I still left.

Does anyone have any advice about this? I am not married yet and keep thinking that I could start fresh. I am 29. Also to add our realtionship has been unhealthy for a while - i used to check his email and social media, spying has become a compulsion. I am glad I have uncovered the truth but is this what all men do? Or is it me? I am going to therapy but can't decide whether i should put this behind me or atleast try to forgive. If I do, I should have stayed with my ex because he is much more together and apologetic. He was my first love.

I havent told many people about this because they all love him and I dont want to tarnish any hope that we may have. I feel like I have PTSD and maybe I am in denial. Even after it was exposed he still can't tell OW its over (and seems to be seeking solace in her) or tell me that it is what he wants. He is concentrating on his mental health and I am trying to be sympathetic but I cant wait around, I have to live my life too...

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 16/03/2018 14:21

"He could overcome the addicitions and get back to his normal self but if I dont try I am throwing it all away".

This thinking is the sunken costs fallacy and that basically causes people to keep on making poor relationship decisions. A bad investment is not going to suddenly become good. What you have tried as well to date has not worked; what else can you realistically do other than now walk away for your own peace of mind?. No man is worth this, do not let your 30s be marred like this by such a man either.

You cannot help him overcome his addictions; that is his choice alone to do that and he is showing no indications of actually wanting to do so. He neither wants your help or support and you are woefully underqualified yourself to help him. You cannot and must not ever act as a rescuer or saviour in any relationship; neither approach works.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 16/03/2018 14:25

Many relationships as well do not survive affairs. This has been seen on here time and time again; the woman cannot get past his cheating behaviours. This man has cheated on you and used drugs prior to marriage; if you are fool enough to marry him then you are on a one way trip to the divorce courts. And he will still be the same after separation as well, such men do not change. I do not think he has changed at all since you met him; you are simply now seeing who he really was all along. Abusive men can be nice sometimes but their nice/nasty cycle is a continuous one.

Do you trust this man at all crossroads; if there is no trust there is no relationship.

meme70 · 16/03/2018 14:31

Dump him life way to short for a person to disrespect you
If you forgive him you’ve given him permission to cheat again

crossroads1 · 16/03/2018 14:31

I know you are right Attila, I know myself and he does too that even trying would be fruitless. Im just so sad it has come to this because we were the best we had ever been to the worst time of our lives. My 20s could have been so much more, but we are all prophets in hindsight.

I did say to him after finding out I would try and the funny thing is he still talks to her, texts etc. They work together, I could have understood talking in work hours but why the OW is clinging on so desparately is beyond me? As we have seen he isnt that much of the prize (I was definetely the prize) and he isnt that good looking. What is she gaining?

After she sent the underwear picture I did call her and call her every name under the sun. Maybe this is her warped revenge, yet she apparently 'loves him' and clearly he has strong feelings too. Writing this all out has brought me back to reality. Why would I stay with someone who openly admits to having feelings for this OW? Then tells me it is because he isnt feeling like himself? Why is she always there trying to help him?

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Dancingmonkey87 · 16/03/2018 14:38

Often or not people tend to stay in relationships who have suffered affairs because they have dc. Many uttered the words if I didn’t have dc I would have left along time ago. If you don’t have dc I would leave.

BlokeHereInPeace · 16/03/2018 14:44

You sound intelligent, compassionate and very unhappy. You can thrive without this idiot. You are 29, which is young (trust me, it is) and don't have ties. You could be getting on a plane to try that life abroad somewhere. You could follow up on the writing thing, perhaps do a course on that (you are a good writer). Let matey boy shag his colleagues, put shit up his hooter and fall into debt.

TalkinBoutWhat · 16/03/2018 14:50

You say he's kind and generous. Very generous. Soo generous that he shares himself around. Does he also not kick the puppy he bought you? Because that would make him an absolute superstar, wouldn't it!!!

Seriously crossroads, read what you have typed as though someone else has typed it. You are clutching at straws, you are trying to look for reasons for why you should hold on because you're scared to let go.

Why are you scared to let go? Financially, you will be better off, emotionally, much better off. Do you care so much about other people like his family and friends thinking well of you that you would stay with someone who treats you horribly for them? Do THEIR partners treat them like this???!!!

crossroads1 · 16/03/2018 15:01

Some of you on here are so kind, blokehereinpeace thank you very much for your words. I am deeply unhappy and also intelligent which is why I am struggling to understand why I cant see why this relationship was never right for me in the first place. Maybe because it has been such a long time I just accepted everything and settled. To be honest I just cant see another life for me right now. I have lived in my same hometown all of my life and just dream about leaving and even leaving him but cant get the balls to do it. Without him I have no one to talk to, to be honest we dont talk now! Its just the perception of other people knowing that I am not alone. But you cant live for other people. what kind of a life is that?

Also re: the puppy, the dog stays with me and he hasnt seen him for a over a month. Whenever he did take him he would leave him in his room and go out. Typing this out makes me so sad at the years I have wasted.

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BlokeHereInPeace · 16/03/2018 15:24

Not wasted years. They have helped you understand where you are now. Do you have a passport? If not, get one. Small steps. If you do, get yourself to easyjet.com and have a look at where they go.

crossroads1 · 16/03/2018 15:54

i have applied for a few jobs abroad Im banking on getting one of them.

The last thing that baffles me in all of this.. what is the OW gaining? They are colleagues having an affair, I really doubt it will end up all rosy yet she persists to text and call him. What am i missing? I clearly dont know what he is telling her so i suppose the speculation is futile. Having met her before I just thought she would have some guilt. but if you couldnt have any guilt, i should expect nothing from her

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Adora10 · 16/03/2018 15:56

She owes you nothing OP, it's him who you are in a relationship with and it's him who's not even deceiving you, he's blatantly having sex with her right under your nose.

You should expect the same from him, nada, and move on for your own sanity.

crossroads1 · 16/03/2018 15:59

But why has the OW carried it on? What enjoyment is she really getting from a broken man that she lets sleep over at her place? Boredom?

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TalkinBoutWhat · 16/03/2018 16:44

She's likely as damaged as your hopefully soon to be ex. She's getting a thrill, every time he chooses her over you.

crossroads1 · 16/03/2018 16:48

What a way to burst into the weekend...

Thanks for the help today everyone. I'm not going to let this get me down. I HAVE to move forward and show both of them that even though that may have fooled me, revenge is the best success. If anything this should just be a motivator for me!!

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ICESTAR · 17/03/2018 16:54

Op I cannot wait until you come back and update us that you are living the life abroad and doing that blog that you've always wanted to do.

Why not blog now? Maybe anonymously about your new life starting? From the journey of home town and heart broken to abroad and jetting off to exciting new opportunities. That could be the theme of your blog and also cathartic.

I would definitely read it. Flowers

LadyGAgain · 17/03/2018 16:56

Run.
Run for the hills.
And don't look back.
Ever.

Consideringbeingamom · 17/03/2018 17:07

LadyGAgain you have said exactly what I was going to say! He sounds like such a tool. Part company from him and never look back. You're quite young.....there are a plethora of fabulous people out there to be in relationships with or friends with. Good luck Flowers

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