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Am I In a controlling relationship?

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Lady82 · 16/02/2018 11:36

Hi, been with my partner for 5.5 years now married for 4. We had our son 2.5 years ago.

If i remember correctly this is when things definitely got worse. We had a whirlwind romance.

When I google controlling men he shows classic signs. When we first met it was big grand gestures, fancy restaurants. Presents, very generous. Moved in very quickly and married after year and a half. We moved through the big milestones at a fast pace. I was swept off my feet and was hoping that I’d meet my soul mate and have children.

He’s a high earner I am not. I work part time in a badly paid job which I do like but when I do work it takes me away for short spells and I think he finds that infuriating. I think he likes that I don’t earn much and I’m dependant on him.

Lately I’ve been going nuts thinking his behaviour is unacceptable and just want to leave and move on. It’s like we are contstantly in these cycles of ups and downs.

I hate rowing in front of our son and don’t want him to grow up thinking that our toxic/cold relationship is normal.

We row a lot and they can be quite nasty then we will go on to have silences because I feel it’s easier.

He is super tidy and I feel has some sort of OCD. Everything has to be just so which is difficult to live with especially with a toddler. I constantly feel like I’m treading on eggshells around him. He likes to be in control. He is a high earner in a stressful job and pays for everything I should add and we live in a lovely house.

I feel like he puts me down all of the time. He calls me lazy and selfish. (I know I am not either of those things. Criticises the way I parent our son. He is charming to outsiders. People think he is lovely but he is Jeckyl and hide with me.

There is no physical harming but it’s more emotional. The other day I got back from work and it was valentines. We went speaking before I went away because the house wasn’t up to his perfectionist standards so we had a row. I left early the next morning and so we didn’t speak until I got home the following night.

He waited up for me to get home so we could eat. He hadn’t cooked but heated something up. I asked him why he had done this particular thing when he was doing something else that he had text me about in our way home. He told me I was ungrateful and thoughtless and to throw it in the bin. He said I don’t know how lucky I am.

He went to bed then sent me a text to say that I shouldn’t even attempt to go into our bed and sleep in the spare room. When I ignored him about an hour later and tried to get in. He used his feet to push me away until I left.

Sometimes I know my life would be easier if I didn’t row back but I don’t want him to think That he is walking all over me.
I’ve threatened to leave him but i know at the moment I have knowehere to go.
(That could change later on in the year as my mum is moving closer)

He’s not affectionate or loving towards me. Rarely cuddles or kisses me. We have sex about once a month. He’s not got a very low libido probably because work is so stressful.

I constantly have this feeling of loneliness and know I deserve more. I’m not material as a person I didn’t come from anything. It doesn’t bother me not having a lavish lifestyle I’d rather be happy.

I’m not needy either but I just crave a normal loving relationship and intamacy with someone.

I feel down more often than not with him but feel I cannot leave because of our son. I haven’t spoke to anyone about this. I have a mum and a sister although neither nearby but I suppose I don’t want to worry them and if I do it really means I have to confront the issues I’m facing. I have friends but also live far away and have a few new friends but I embarrassed by admitting the truth.

I’m a sociable, kind person who I know can have a future with my husband I’m just scared to take the leap. I feel my confidence has been affected, my motivation is lacking and I generally feel like muddle though each day.

We are at a crossroads at the moments as my husband would like another baby.

This is nigh on impossible as we don’t have sex enough and how can I bring another child into this environment? I would also like another baby for my son but certainly not with how things are.

We tried couples counselling recently which helped temporarily but things are back to how they were.

Any advice as my first step?

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OrangeCrush19 · 17/02/2018 16:43

He literally kicked you out of bed. Imagine your son in twenty years’ time telling you his partner has done this to him. Wouldn’t you tell him to leave, to be kind to himself, that you’d do anything to help him?

LTB - and he is a bastard. An abusive manipulative bastard. You sound lovely, and you and your son deserve better Flowers

Lady82 · 17/02/2018 19:35

It might be worth adding he is a very good dad. Our son adores him! Harder in a way. So odd as he can be nice as pie at times. We had a very turbulent morning as he made me sleep downstairs again last night as I didn't deserve to sleep upstairs and unless I apologised I which I wasn't prepared to do then I had to sleep downstairs. I couldn't be bothered to argue so I barley slept on the sofa bed. I took our son out for the morning and he joined us for lunch as he was pleasant almost. It's like when things are going his way it's fine. But when they are not he's a horror. It's this uncertainty I can't deal with. The not knowing I suppose. It's hard to deal with. Thanks for your positive comments. I am seeing my mum very soon so I've decided to speak about it to her while also squirrelling some money away and photocopying all our documents. I can't go on like this but I'll bide my time.

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Ryder63 · 17/02/2018 20:13

OMG! he's making you sleep downstairs now? He's upping the abuse - on a total power trip. Please leave ASAP!!!!

BackInTheRoom · 17/02/2018 20:18

Does anyone get the feeling her DH is in the 'Devaluation' stage? 🤔

Ryder63 · 17/02/2018 20:20

@Bibbibee yes, totally.

Lady82 · 17/02/2018 20:27

What does devaluation stage mean? I'm not familiar with this. Technically it's not downstairs it's the second floor but yes I agree a power trip. And now all the candles are lit and he's in a good mood. See what I mean? Exhausting!

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BackInTheRoom · 17/02/2018 20:34

He in a good mood because he chooses to be. I wouldn't be surprised if he sabotaged this romantic evening with something else to blame on you but call me cynical.

BelleandBeast · 17/02/2018 20:35

He used his feet to push me away until I left.

Is this another way of saying he was kicking you out of bed?

Imagine years and years of this....Sad

Don't have another child with this man, you will be further sucked in.

BackInTheRoom · 17/02/2018 20:39

OP, what do your friends think of him? Do they like him, does he like them?

PeppermintPasty · 17/02/2018 20:40

He's not a good dad, he treats your son's mother like shit.

Can I just say this-I got out of an abusive relationship (you are in an abusive relationship), and my dc have thrived. They do not see their father as he is a total dickhead who put controlling me (or trying to, even after we split) above seeing his own children. I offered him contact, he turned my (very reasonable) suggestions down as he thought I would turn myself inside out for him to remain in contact. I did not. That was four years ago.

Your child will be fine, he has you. If your husband really is a good father it should not make a jot of difference that you and he are no longer together.

Lady82 · 17/02/2018 20:44

Evening is already sabotaged him as he was calm and I thought I'd say the candles are lovely but I can't really appreciate any of this because the way you have treated me recently and he just got in a temper and said that I never apologise for when I'm wrong, I don't do enough around the house etc etc. I told him his father (whom is ill at the moment) would be appalled if i told him how he treated me and that shut him up. For now. Anyway I'm away tomorrow thankfully to work. But yes it sure is sad that I can't wait to escape. You are right. His moods all depend on how HE feels. It's so tiring living with someone like this.

I need to understand the abbreviations on here as in guessing what they are.

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Ryder63 · 17/02/2018 20:52

OP google cycle of a narcissistic relationship - or even narcissist. You'll see!

BackInTheRoom · 17/02/2018 20:59

I asked about your friends because they're usually the first to go....

Lady82 · 17/02/2018 21:22

My old friends who know me the best live In different towns not so close to me so I don't see a lot of them just talk to them on the phone. Conveniently for him we met both met on a dating site in a new city and settled here so all the mutual friends we have are new ones. They think he's charming. My old friends. Well I guess we all started getting pregnant at the same time And a natural part of that when you live away from them is you see less of them but I do still speak to them and often wonder what they really think of him but we haven't spent much time together in couples. We don't really discuss his traits, I've never disclosed to them how I really feel about him which i know is sad.

I've been cross with him in the past about his lack of interest in my friends but now this is also becoming obvious to me.

My mum had her suspicions about after my son was born. She said that she thought I had Post natal depression as I didn't seem myself. She said I was always laughing joking and now I seem serious and obsessed with babies routine. Just not traits of myself.

I promised her I would go to the doctor but they said it wasn't that. TBH that's was the start of the process for me as I couldn't fathom why I wasn't happy when I had a house/husband/new baby. Eventually I became to realise it was me depressed it was him making me miserable.

Think my sister is wary but she is nice to him for me. We spent Christmas with her and I cover up how miserable I am. We are good at getting on with others when we have to as
We both have sociable traits but I don't see her often and I can tell he wouldn't have to unless he had too.

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BackInTheRoom · 17/02/2018 21:42

OP, does he mention other women to you say other women he works with?

Lady82 · 17/02/2018 21:43

Ryder63 just googled cycles of a Narcissistic

Relationship and what a sobering/ chilling though. This is EXACTLY what I'm experiencing. I'm going to forward this article
onto my mum before I see her. Now I'm freaking out leaving my son tomorrow with him. I don't get back until Wednesday. I'm certain he is fine and wouldn't hurt our son but it's chilled me to the bone trading this Sad

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Lady82 · 17/02/2018 21:46

Regarding his female colleagues. Occasionally but he's so driven at work and slightly chauvinistic, highly intelligent guy. He believes he is right when it comes to his financial field where there is a lot of guesswork involved. He doesn't really slag the females off but you can tell he regards the males more highly.

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Ryder63 · 18/02/2018 08:28

Lady82 so sorry. But knowledge is power. Now you have insight into what is happening to you.

Lady82 · 18/02/2018 08:42

Yes it is. Thank You

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flipperflop · 18/02/2018 08:53

His behaviour towards you has made you feel like you have depression, a mental illness. That is not ok...he is the problem, not you...please please start looking into ways you can untangle yourself from this marriage...

lookingforhelp12 · 18/02/2018 09:10

Hi !
Couldn't read and not reply😪
I had trips to city's in Europe, flowers, meals, weekends away. I fell in love, moved in had our child.
6 months pregnant he cheated, then kicked me out.
I had no where to live, ended up going back, under his spell it was my fault. I was selfish, rubbish, not allowed in the marital bed, told what to wear, how to speak, never left a mark but pushed me around. Get out. Please! 10 years I endured it, I woke up around half way through and suffered. I struggled to leave but you can do it. Talk, get advice, and leave. You are worth so much more for you and your child Thanks
It's definitely abuse !

Lady82 · 18/02/2018 12:36

Just wanted to say thank you to you all. I have made arrangements to see my mum in a couple of weeks which I will tell her everything.

I have contacted my old therapist who I went to couples counselling and told her what's happening and I think I'm in a Narcissistic relationship and she told me to come and see her and we can sort out a plan.

I have ordered the book.

I have contacted Womens aid (not got through yet as busy)

I have a counselling service at through work which is fantastic so I will get support from them too.

I already feel better for admitting to myself I'm not losing my mind.

I will be careful with money and have increased my savings.

I will keep the post updated. Smile

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BackInTheRoom · 18/02/2018 15:00

This site might help:

outofthefog.website/separating-and-divorcing

BackInTheRoom · 18/02/2018 15:03

....from the same site:

outofthefog.website/what-not-to-do-1/2015/12/3/amateur-diagnosis

Lady82 · 19/02/2018 02:29

Thank You Bibidee I will
Check these out :)

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