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Please someone advise me

39 replies

Littlegingerjamie · 14/02/2018 17:31

I met a guy 7.5 months ago. We connected amazingly. We talked all night we twiddled fingers and he taught me things I never knew. We introduced the kiddies too.
He like 45-60mins away. He works shifts I work 9-5 he has a daughter and I have two children. Mine don’t see thier Dad and as such I am a single parent. He sees his daughter on a Wednesday and every other weekend. (I’m theory) and he works shifts either 5am-2pm or 2pm-10pm I work 9-5 Monday-Friday. He doesn’t have his own home and lives with his parents. I have my own house.

We find it impossible to see each other. We were going to move in together I changed my job as I needed a term time job becausw is loose my tax credits as a couple and he told me the day before that basically it’s not happening for now as I’d been acting strangely.

I had been - at Christmas he slept over at his ex wives. On the sofa. He then, in the morning screend my calls. Despite saying he would stop paying his ex wives bills and would divorce her he hasn’t made any moves to do so. I’ve reminded him 3 times and been told ‘it will happen’ and ‘I will’ I can’t remember the last time he offered to pay for the day out with the kids - he earns triple what I do. I took us away for my birthday weekend. I paid for the hotel and meals. Then we celebrated with the kids and I paid the entire thing mini golf, meal and shrek world the weekend before. I want to plan things and he shuts me down. (Holiday... hotel bookings for a family trip -his family) I can’t remember the last time he looked at me and pulled me in tight and said ‘I love you’ I think we’re continuong because the kids all love each other and we started off AMAZING.

If I don’t plan is to see each other it wouldn’t happen.

On top of this. His ex wife asks him constantly to have thier daughter more. She works in the sex industry and takes cocaine. He knows this so has the daughter as much as possible but with her being in primary school he often has her at her mums house (ex marital home) or his parents and won’t bring her to me because of the journey to school which, means the future for us living together isn’t bright because of his shifts and the need for him to constantly have his daughter and there being no real routine. I can’t ask him to keep a routine for his daughter because then I’m asking him to choose. But, his wife knows that she hasn’t him right where she wants him. Childcare - bill paying - she even has him paying for cheerleading (she’s a coach so obviously wouldn’t pay for it I suspect but tells him he needs to pay) they also, on competitions both drive down together and he hangs out at the Home. It’s been 2+ years since they separated.

What do I do? I love him and my kids love him and he is a part of our lives now. But I keep going round in circles and he isn’t getting it. Today is valentines. I got no ‘sorry I’m not there flowers’ he has his daughter. Over night. It’s half term. Why can’t he drive over to mine and we all spend the evening together and then drive back in the morning for work and to give his daughter back to her mum? He just says ‘because I’m not’

His best friend is also her brother so hanging with his friends isn’t pleasurable either

Where do I go from now...
Please someone help me.

OP posts:
Littlegingerjamie · 15/02/2018 09:51

Yes ... I know this is all right. I just can’t believe I’ve failed again. I met ex husband at school when I was 11 - back then it was amazing because he bought me a mcdonalds on a Saturday afternoon - and we went to see titanic but I got ID’d!! We had a good marriage and he is the father of my children. Sadly he is no longer around. I grieved that I spent some time getting to know me and professionally I am sorted. My home is sorted. The children (one boy one girl) are fab ... my family and friends are great but I am very lonely. My friends are all 40+ and long term married and working so the friendships etc don’t allow for talks in the evenings. I have no one to have my children so I can’t join anything ... so it’s nice to vent it on here. Whilst some are rather harsh - I can’t thank the people enough that can see my view and offer kindness... thank you so much...

I keep crying over once instance where we went for dinner. We went back to my house and we had sex he cleaned up out his jacket on and ducked as he walked out the door I said ‘please don’t just leave me laying here please cuddle me’ he rolled his eyes and said urgh I can’t have spontaneous sex with you and I said you can? We do but you’ve not even cuddled me. He walked out and I was laying there I felt used and abused and I can’t see how that is me. I got a text... ‘sorry you felt used I won’t be doing that again’

And here we are.

OP posts:
0ccamsRazor · 15/02/2018 09:58

Op where is your self respect?

I wonder if you are projecting all of your romanticized wants for a partner onto him?

He does not feel the same way as you do.

He is not that into you.

Block and move on.

Nellia · 15/02/2018 10:31

Ouch op having read your last post I really feel for you. Thats just too awfull!But also that should have been the end of it right there.
I hear you about being lonely 40 us a difficult age when most are settled into a routine but many are just ending relationships and in the same boat. Join groups with kids, gingerbread, single with kids websites and others have local branches.

Chippyway · 15/02/2018 10:47

Wow

Run.

And next time please leave it longer before introducing your children

spottycomfy · 15/02/2018 10:52

He’s not that into you. Sorry.

VioletCharlotte · 15/02/2018 12:29

Just read your update OP. You haven't failed. You fell for someone you thought was nice. He turned out not to be the person you thought he was. You sound like a very loving , caring kind of person, who desperately want to be in a relationship. I think some men sense this and take advantage, using women like you to get what they want.

I know it's sad, but I think you know you need to get out, chalk this up as experience, dust yourself down and focus on you and your kids.

Hermonie2016 · 15/02/2018 13:14

Op, you have invested way too much into this man before you really knew him.
You only knew him at a superficial level and I think you projected your image of him, rather than reality.

He actions scream he wants a casual relationship and perhaps he says differentely but judge him on his actions.

I think you may need to toughen up and acknowledge there are manipulative people in the world who will use others.I think your email was way too gushy and he will not have respect for you...claiming to love someone who is capable of treating you badly is just making yourself a doormat.

I doubt he has ended it with his ex so make sure you practice safe sex and get yourself checked if not.

Get yourself on baggereclaim website as will help you to develop boundaries.

Littlegingerjamie · 15/02/2018 14:10

Thank you again for your replies ...
pretty sure him and his ex are apart ... his mother is very thrilled I’m his new partner. I just think he is happy coasting along and not changing anything in his life which, ultimately things change when you meet someone... and her? she’s quite happy having everything done for her and living the life she leads ... (just a bitchy comment but she’s all pro animals vegan living this petition making and signing lifestyle coaching cheerleading and is pornhubbing babestation webcaming snorting cocaine and her 16year old daughter knows what she does and the nearly 8 year old is well on her way to knowing too!!) she webcams from her bedroom too ... I’m not saying she is a bad mum but I just wish he could see that it’s not an ideal situation for me to have to be ‘ok’ with especially as I work in safeguarding (and yes... I have reported it) I wonder if the cheer mums know her other life... anyway... I’m being nasty now.

He has issues and I feel like I should throw it out there that said ex wife filmed herself being fuc**d and sent him the video... she’d go out and do that whilst he had the kids. I think she wanted him to care like I did in hindsight ... it was sold to me that she did that and he wanted his marriage to work so he let her do what she had to do ...

I’m embarrassed to say to my friends I’ve failed and I’ve failed my children. I know I’ve failed them. I just wanted the family I’ve never had and luckily I’ve had my children I have a beautiful home and a great job I’d really taken time ... I thought I was in a position to be able to make the right choices ... clearly not.

Thank you so so much again ... the comment and replies all help more than you will know x

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bitzy12 · 15/02/2018 14:29

You haven't failed op, you've just got caught up in it all. We've all been there, it can just sometimes take a while to see the light which hopefully now you can. Close the book and start a new one :-) x

AthenasOwl · 15/02/2018 14:31

I wouldn't say you have failed..you fell hard for a man who's not interested in having a relationship and not capable of giving you want you want and need.
You deserve to have what you want and need in a relationship and if it's not happening you need to realise that's it's ok to walk away. This 7 month relationship is not making you happy, you're not getting what you want out of it ..move on.

As for all that stuff about his ex wife..none of your business, he was pretty indiscreet telling you all that stuff to begin with.
Forget it and go work on your own self esteem.

MyKingdomForBrie · 15/02/2018 14:35

Oh Christ please don’t send that email! He doesn’t give a shit and sending that will do nothing but make you feel even more worthless - I promise he’s not going to read it and ‘see the light’ or some such.

You really need to face this one head on - he’s just not that into you. It was honeymoon phase stuff, not real.

MistressDeeCee · 15/02/2018 14:36

Well even if she's a sex worker high on coke and climbing the walls with it, it's irrelevant isn't it? As he's still with her. He's just fooled you with the crazy ex (very elaborated) story as a cover for his absences. & he sleeps on mummy's sofa?!

You need to leave him alone and seek understanding, via therapy if need be, as to why you're so very desperate for a man and family life that you even allowed this loser anywhere near you, much less your children.

& no your children don't love him, they've barely seen the man. If he's in their consciousness it's because you keep putting him there. Therapy can be a good way of facing up to truths and sorting your mindset.

Besides you may as well finish with him as he's not that bothered about you and will dump you anyway. You can't hold onto people who don't want you you know. Even if you love and want them more than anything. Leave him alone and go work on yourself.

Nellia · 15/02/2018 16:27

As others have said you need to stop focusing on his wife.
No matter what she did and didnt do He is there and not with you.
And if e does come back in response to that email it will be on his terms and you wont be happy for long.

BackInTheRoom · 15/02/2018 20:53

Op, you haven't failed your kids. I don't know anyone with a perfect relationship tbh?

Go work on you. Look up 'Codependency v Manipulators'
'The Human Magnet Syndrome' and 'Limerence'. By the sounds of that email, he was your 'LO' Limerent Object.

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