Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Friend sending my husband post after I have had miscariage and ectopic pregnancy

97 replies

Monday2018 · 05/02/2018 14:08

I have had 5 miscarriages and an ectopic pregnancy. I told my husband I couldn't do it anymore and that I didn't want to live anymore because it just made me feel inadequate and low, a part of my dignity as a woman was lost as I consider myself a failure. But I couldn't go thru with ending it - I didn't have the guts and I know I must keep going for our 7 year old daughter - she's truly amazing and deserves to have her mum there.

This pain hurts so much and I though that my husband wouldn't want to cause me anymore pain. I found out a couple of months after the ectopic that our so called friend was sending my husband porn. It was joke stuff in the beginning but I told my husband that I didn't want him viewing that stuff, be it joke porn or not. I still had my suspicions as he stopped sitting on the sofa by me in the nights and would always be on his phone, taking it where ever he went. I asked him outright at least twice if he had been sent more or had viewed any more naked women or porn. He would tell me to shut up or say no.

I had enough one night and I asked to borrow his phone to order our daughters xmas present. He had an awkward face and responded with where's your phone. It's flat I replied and so he past his phone to me. I went to screen snap the order and save it in his photo gallery. I found porn there and as I explored further there was another 12 more images of naked women which our so called friend had sent him and then another which his other mate had sent him again consisting of naked women. I was disgusted, hurt again and past the phone back to him calling him a pervert and telling him to get out of the house. The only person I looked to for support and comfort has now stuck the knife in further and I felt completely broken.

He texted our so called friend and asked him to stop sending him porn as I didn't like it. I then asked if he had viewed the videos that he was sent. Yes he replied. I asked him why when I had already told him that I didn't want him to view that stuff. I don't know, all men do it he said. So I asked why and what did he get out of it? Nothing he replied. I asked him if he would be ok with me viewing other naked men, No he replied and so I asked him why it was ok for him to do so. He was angry and shouting. I said that I need to know because if he isn't ' getting want he needs from this relationship then we obviously have problems that we need to deal with. He told me to shut up and that out marriage was over months ago. I told him to leave, as I now felt like I was possibly being used. Why stay if you think the marriage is over? FYI, He's had two failed relationships previous to ours. He said I was over-reacting and that he wouldn't view it anymore and had told his friend to stop sending it.

The following day I told him it was best to pack his bags and pointless staying in a relationship he says was over months ago. He said he had only said that in the heat of the moment because we were arguing. Don't know what to believe, my head is in bits.

After this he has been leaving his phone lying around a lot and isn't on it so much now, so our relationship started to improve a lot. But I found myself checking his phone. There was no more porn for over a month, but then that same so called friend of our sent him another image of a women's genitals. I wanted to know if my husband would tell me the truth about this and I asked him if he had heard anything from the friend. He replied no only happy new year. Again I was upset that he blatantly was lying to me. I told him that I had seen the pic and called him a lying, throwing my wedding rings away and telling him I wanted him to leave. I sobbed and have never felt so down in my entire life. He told me I had problems in my head and that I was blowing it all out of proportion. Later on my husband showed me that he replied and asked this friend again to stop it because he know he was getting him into trouble. As this was the second time this friend had been asked to stop sending it, I then messaged his wife to ask if she could speak with him and ask him to stop because it was causing so many arguments between us. She replied and told me that she totally agreed and wanted their chat site stopped herself, that I was a good person who had been thro far too much already and that she would speak to him. This friend then messaged my husband and said his wife had been told and had gone nuts. He then blocked me on messenger.

I have tried hard to improve our relationship as I understand that because I was feeling so down after the miscarriages and ectopic that maybe I wasn't so switched onto his needs. Our relationship has started to improve and we do have some happy times now, but I still find myself overcome with feeling up-set, hurt and sometimes questioning the trust between us.

Is it normal for married men to act in this way and view porn? Am I over-reacting? Any advice would be great - thanks.

OP posts:
Chippyway · 05/02/2018 20:18

I don’t see the problem and I think you’re over reacting

It’s porn

I really don’t want to come across as heartless but I fail to see why your miscarriages/ectopic pregnancy has anything to do with your problem over him looking at porn? Whether or not you had those miscarriages you’d still have the problem with what your husband is doing.

I don’t think he should be expected to stop looking at porn simply because you don’t like it. That boils down to your insecurities and they aren’t his fault.

tootiredtospeak · 05/02/2018 20:24

I think counselling for you or both of you is best. For what it's worth I think that what is not nice is at a time in your life when sex has been about babies and the sadness of losing some of your beautiful babies. For him it's still compartmentalized in that he can get a porn picture from a mate and not see that might be upsetting for you. That does need some working on but I wouldn't say it's worth ending a relationship over.

diddlemethis · 05/02/2018 20:24

But there is a HUGE difference between someone seeking porn for their own use, and someone dealing with their "friend" sending porn to their partner, surely there are boundaries. Or are you saying it's totally cool for me to send porn to your husbands?

Lovely456 · 05/02/2018 20:24

I think its been implied alot on this thread actually valerie saying how normal it is that married men watch porn repeatedly.
I think you can tell if your partner watches porn, Certainly if they a prolific porn watcher.

frogsoup · 05/02/2018 20:32

"Everyone has or does watch it and frankly if you say you haven’t I don’t believe you."

Disbelieve away. I've never watched porn, never intend to. Not my thing. I find the assumptions on this thread interesting. I certainly know that watching porn is both normal and accepted in some relationships, so why is it so hard for people to believe the opposite can also be true?!

Valerrie · 05/02/2018 20:33

How can you tell if someone watches porn?

I'm a very quiet person in real life. I come across as innocent, I'm a teacher, I have hobbies like knitting and baking.

I really don't think anyone in my real life can tell I watch porn. Same with my DH. He's quiet, bit of a geek.

Lovely456 · 05/02/2018 20:36

Other people may not be able to tell but they arent with you are they, your partner knows?

user1474652148 · 05/02/2018 20:39

My dh and I find porn a form to infidelity. So yes it would be a walk breaker for both of us.

For him to be watching it against your wishes, lying and shouting at you when you are feeling as fragile as you do is pretty unforgivable.

You need support, love and someone to comfort you, instead your husband is skulking around watching porn.

This ‘mutual’ friend is toxic, if your relationship has any chance he has to go. Are you having counselling? Do you have other support networks?
focus on getting stronger, feeling better and in the blessed gift that is your 7 year old.
Whether you can get past this behaviour should be decided when you are feeling much stronger.

user1474652148 · 05/02/2018 20:40

Deal breaker

Valerrie · 05/02/2018 20:41

Sorry, that wasn't specifically aimed at you - someone else said up thread you can tell a porn watcher.

Yes, we both knew from the start that we enjoyed porn. That's why I find it hard to understand when people are suddenly shocked when they discover their partner watching porn after years together as I can't understand why it doesn't come up, ever. Especially with someone you're sleeping with.

Lovely456 · 05/02/2018 20:46

Yes I do see your point there I suppose valerrie, I remember a boyfriend I had years ago I caught him out so many times literally in the act Blush

NewYearNiki · 05/02/2018 21:00

I think you need to see your GP.

I am unlikely to ever have a child at all. I am late 30s. My last dp cheated on me and i have health issues that will affect my ability to get pregnant.

You have a 7 year old dd. You have carried and borne a child. Yet you feel in not having another your dignity as a woman is lost. I could understand that if you've never had a child at all. But you've done it once!

Husband looking at porn, well lots of.men do.

Some of my guy friends share porn between each other. Doesnt mean they are going to cheat.

You sound depressed. See your gp.

Onecutefox · 05/02/2018 21:08

Valerie, infantile has different meanings. An adult with infantile behaviour is considered immature. He is a married man not some teenager.

iammargesimpson · 05/02/2018 21:14

'you need to see your gp' i can't belive I'm reading this. What the op needs is for her dh to put the phone down and start supporting her and recognising what she has gone through!! The porn is not the issue here, it's the fact that she finds it disrespectful to their relationship, has asked him to stop and he continues to look at it. He is ignoring her while she is struggling, why are so many of you excusing this by saying that porn is normal?!!

Valerrie · 05/02/2018 21:17

@Onecutefox

Um, I know what infantile means. I realise they were calling the OP's husband childish.

I don't think there's anything remotely childish about watching porn, seeing as it's aimed at adults.

What difference does being married make? Does that mean you automatically have to stop watching porn?

Valerrie · 05/02/2018 21:19

Marge, I think she needs to see her GP, not anything to do with her DH but because she's clearly struggling with what's happened to her. Anyone would be.

No one is making excuses for the lies. I think that's appalling, as is him saying she's not allowed to look at naked men but he can look at women. That's awful.

However, watching porn is normal. People are trying to say that's not the issue but everything else is.

NaturalWoman · 05/02/2018 21:25

"Everyone has or does watch it and frankly if you say you haven’t I don’t believe you."

I've never watched it. Ever.

Since separating from my husband 6 years ago, I've only been with one man who admitted to watching porn. But I already knew. The others, I knew.

I believe my current boyfriend because I understand his feelings on it. He is very much driven by love and not sex. For him, sex is an expression of love, he has no interest at all in sex for sex's sake. When we started dating, we waited to have sex until he was confident that I was serious about him and not just looking for a ONS.

And I can tell he's telling the truth by the sex. I know.

But, I agree, most of them do. And if/when I find myself single again, I shan't be bothering with anyone else.

iammargesimpson · 05/02/2018 21:26

Valerrie with respect, it's normal for you, that doesn't automatically make it normal for everyone, you seem to have great difficulty understanding this. And people are making excuses for the lies by focusing on the 'porn is normal/not normal' argument. Anyway, looks like the op isn't coming back but good luck to her.

Valerrie · 05/02/2018 21:27

I don't have difficulty understanding it, I've said it's normal for most. Clearly some people don't watch porn, but they're probably in the minority. I'd be interested to see statistics but they'd probably be skewed as not everyone would admit to it.

MouseClogs · 05/02/2018 22:18

Helmetbymidnight, I was referring primarily to people that happen to be in their 40s and 50s, as it happens, so quite why you assumed I was talking about the borderline adolescent I'm not entirely sure.

coparenting · 06/02/2018 08:29

I went through similar with my ex husband. It wasn't really about the porn...

It was about the fact MY body was FAILING me at getting pregnant. While he was admiring OTHER bodies.

The insecurity it created in me that not only was my body not doing what it should to fall pregnant but also it was not as attractive anymore to him if he needed/wanted to watch porn and masturbate to it was devastating at that specific moment when I needed reassurance from him I wasn't an utter failure as a woman to him and instead found him watching porn

Thanks
Helmetbymidnight · 06/02/2018 08:53

Twenties and thirties is not borderline adolescent.

Ime lots of older people don't use porn whereas younger people tend to think everyone does- which is why we get so many 'Everyone uses porn' statements on mn.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Swipe left for the next trending thread