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How much was it my fault that he left?

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PenelopeChipShop · 27/01/2018 07:51

This is partly inspired by the ‘you can’t ‘steal’ a husband’ thread on AIBU at the moment but it’s also something i’ve understandably been trying to make sense of since last year. It’s really hard to try to put a relationship in a nutshell but here goes.

We’d been together 15 years, married nearly 8, when he left last May. This still feels quite new to me, I haven’t been able to contemplate moving on and am trying to recover from the shock. I knew we were in a rocky patch but I didn’t expect him to leave. At that point children were 4 and 13months old. I think that bit is quite important - the ‘rocky patch’ encompassed second pregnancy and first year of my DD’s life which isn’t exactly an easy time even if you haven’t been having problems.

Looking back, he had never been a very hands on Dad and our most common argument since the kids came along was me asking for more support, him saying he would do more and then never changing. He’s a very high earner and I was made redundant during first pregnancy so I stayed at home until oldest was 2, then found part time job that was perfect.

I thought we were happy. This is the bit that’s making me question everything. People on the other thread are saying ‘partner gets treated like shit then cheats, it’s not their fault’. I honestly don’t think I treated him badly. I think we both took our eye off the ball and neglected our relationship a bit but were always having sex up to this point!

Decided to try for baby no.2. I was lucky and fell almost immediately. When I was very very newly pg, like literally 5 weeks, I discovered messages between DH and a Work colleague that sounded like more than just friends. I was devastated and demanded to know what was going on. He denies everything but had been in NYC with her for a week while we were ‘trying’ for our baby. To this day I don’t know whether they shagged (the messages sounded like it) he claims not.

The pregnancy wasn’t easy, I felt very ill a lot of the time and couldn’t have sex as much. He felt neglected. But I was still very hurt by the messages. He withdrew from me more and more. There were times when we were all at home and he was watching porn while pretending to work, while I (massively pg) looked after the toddler. He never touched me. He wasn’t supportive during the pregnancy (I mean by letting me rest or helping with the nursery etc).

When she was a very new baby I found messages between him and multiple women - all friendly, but he was just constantly on his phone to women rather than helping with kids, etc.

He claims now I was too controlling and never ‘let’ him help, this is crap as I was always desperate for support. He doesn’t approve that I bf both the kids into toddlerhood, I know I it’s not for everyone but surely he doesn’t have the right to dictate what I do with my body. But he says this is me ‘not lisfening’ to him (by not weaning).

He is now in a relationship with a woman ten years younger than us from his work. She is one of the many names I recognise from the messages. I feel like i’m Still reeling from it all. I don’t understand what happened and why, I did still love him, I was just distracted by the demands of the kids.

I am beginning to suspect I am better off without him but am struggling to move on because I don’t know WHY it all went wrong and why we couldn’t be a happy family.

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GinIsIn · 27/01/2018 07:54

Well it sounds like it went wrong because he was an arsehole. I think the only thing you could do about that would be not to have married him! I know it may not feel like it but you are so much better off!

hahahaIdontgetit · 27/01/2018 07:55

No, it definitely wasn't your fault he left.

He sounds like a selfish man child and couldn't handle you having other priorities (like looking after your children).

He didn't help with them because he didn't want to, nothing to do with you "letting" him.

I think you are better off without him. Ignore what he says about it, he's rewritten history to fit his story, it's not the truth.

Rainbowsandflowers78 · 27/01/2018 07:58

He was an arsehole - nothing you could have done

ohamIreally · 27/01/2018 09:03

Penelope your post resonates with me. I often think I could have been kinder to my ex and he might not have left. But he could have been kinder to me too couldn't he? Your ex could have chosen to engage with you and your growing family, he could have been loving and supportive but instead he chose to have sex with other women, leave you to do the drudgery and then blame you for it.

Isetan · 27/01/2018 09:29

You didn’t turn him into an arsehole but I do th

He blames you because pathetic selfish men often blame their inadequacies on others, they are incapable of comprehending that the world doesn’t revolve around them. His comments about breastfeeding were more about you being less available to pander to him.

You didn’t stop him from being involved with his children, his children’s needs stole his limelight and now he’s found someone else to play second fiddle to his ego. Men like your Ex are always in search of the next ego stroke and him looking and finding it elsewhere, was sadly inevitable.

You didn’t turn him into an arsehole he was always one, you just didn’t/ don’t want to believe it. The fantasy and the role it played in your future is hard to let go of but it wasn’t real. Of course he wasn’t all bad, you wouldn’t have fallen in love with him if he was but you were far too accepting of the bad in the hope that the good would compensate for it.

Moving on is difficult, especially when you continue to be in denial about the person you need to move on from.

Bluntness100 · 27/01/2018 09:39

There are always two sides to a story and clearly this is yours. I always think when someone cheats, then in the vast majority of cases it's because they are not happy in their primary relationship. Something is missing.

It's clearly not your fault he left, or that he cheated, but relationships break down all thr time, and sometimes folks aren't good at articulating why the relationship doesn't work for them, and doing so in a timely manner so it can be fixed.

I would simply accept that the relationship ended, he has moved on. For your sake and the kids, you need to start to do the same. I'm sorry this happened but there is no point living your life wondering why.

Whatever changed was him and his feelings, for reasons that may have had nothing to do with you, he could simply be a selfish man who didn't want responsibility after he found he had it.

Whatever it is, Stop focusing on it, and start to live your life again.

Ellisandra · 27/01/2018 09:56

Your post is so full of sadness, I really feel for you.

I do think that two people can both be responsible for neglecting a relationship.

But if you were, your husband had two choices about how he addressed that.

  • talk to you, try to fix it
  • look elsewhere

If he tried to talk to you, begged you for counselling, you refused to make time for your relationship... Then yeah, you can talk about fault.

But if he just looked elsewhere... Shame on him, not you.

Clutterbugsmum · 27/01/2018 11:19

I don't think you did anything wrong.

Your Ex sounds like my dad, when he finally left he told me lies about my mum. She was having an affair, But when I turned it back on him and pointed out to him how was she supposed to have had an affair as when she was't at work FT she was cooking, cleaning the house looking after him and 3 children. But also she didn't drive and he took her to work and home again, took her shopping ETC so when was she supposed to have had time for affair.

The thing is they have to put the blame on you because if they admit it is their fault then they have to admit to the world that they are cheating person that no one wants to be.

pallasathena · 27/01/2018 13:00

Agree, he's projecting the blame for the break up on you and because you're feeling vulnerable, you are probably absorbing the negativity he's projecting by thinking that somehow, you are to blame.
Listen, you are not to blame!
Most adults recognise that its very, very hard coping with babies and toddlers. Most adults support their partners as they build a family together. Most adults are, in fact, adults and behave as such.
But......
There's a growing cohort of 'men', in this country who can't cope with being a grown up. They are basically, selfish, self absorbed twats with a superiority complex. I've lost count of the women I know who have or are in the process of walking away from the type and its not just young women either.
My advice would be to cut your losses, focus on yourself and your children, plan how you want your future to be and go for it. You deserve someone far better than that excuse for a man who was your partner. You deserve a proper grown up not a man child... and so do those children of yours.

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