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New Relationship WWYD

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HipsterAssassin · 24/01/2018 11:21

Ok, so relationship of 2 years, we are both really happy. We each have kids from previous relationships, 4 x teens. The kids have only met twice so no blending. Both get on with each other’s kids who all have contact approx 50/50 with their other parent. Both exes have new relationships (cohabiting). Relations are amicable and cooperative on all sides. Nobody was the OW or OM.

We live separately. We would like to live together but won’t be in a position to do so for a few years. Maybe much longer, depending on what circs/kids etc.

When we met my divorce was going through. I’m now separated 4.5 years and divorced around 18 months.

My BF is separated 7 years but not divorced despite his estranged wife now living with her new partner of 3.5 yrs. initially in the early stages of our relationship it didn’t bother me as I was spending time just getting to know him etc. But now it bothers me. The difficulty isn’t his ex (who is evidently also unreliable about sorting stuff and has depressive episodes where she is signed off work) but with my BF. He has talked about getting divorced but in reality doesn’t think about it.

Last Autumn I told him that there is zero chance of me moving in in the future with someone who is married to someone else. He seemed surprised and a bit guilty as he is lazy about this stuff. To be honest he has a side to him which is very hesitant in terms of taking control of his life. Fair enough, nobody is perfect.. I get it. But I think that’s why he felt guilty.

There was a bit of a misunderstanding before Christmas over him and his ex discussing something unbeknownst to her partner. It was a misunderstanding but I told him in light of the fact that they are still married makes me more prone to feeling hurt in such situation. I don’t actually think there is anything going on.

After this he said he would print the divorce forms out. He told me that I can ‘nag’ him about it (hate that word and I really should have told him at the time). Last time I mentioned the forms he said he has given the forms to his ex and she is doing them. She is currently signed off work long term with depression. She won’t do them. Next time I mention it he will be none the wiser. I’ll be annoyed because he said it’s important to me therefore he’ll sort it. But he isn’t sorting it. Or even thinking about it.

What I am worried about is ending up with the Sunken Cost Fallacy situation further down the line even though there are no immediate plans to live together. I believe if people want to get divorced, they just will.

How long would you give it before re-thinking the future of this relationship? Given we have no future plans at present I worry that this can just rumble on for another 7 years. I say bollox to that.

To me it’s important that he is in a legal position to start thinking about planning a life with me. And that, to me, means he gets divorced. WWYD?

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Notasperfectasallothermners · 24/01/2018 11:24

Tell him you won't be sleeping with a married man anymore....
Bet that will jolly him along to sort it.

The fact he is reluctant to upset the apple cart with exw is the problem. She likes him dangling still as her dh when it suits and won't be in a hurry to change that I bet!!

hattyhighlighter · 24/01/2018 11:32

I'd just stay as you are for now and tell him you won't be moving in together until he's divorced. Then leave it to him and reassess in a year or two.

dumbolickous · 24/01/2018 11:36

Not useful, but I hate that 'nag' word too! It belittles what you're saying. It also stalls the argument.

TheStoic · 24/01/2018 12:22

If it’s not a problem now, don’t make it one.

Hermonie2016 · 24/01/2018 12:41

It is a problem to the Op! I think there is something stopping him from legal separation so you need to know what the emotion is.

Legally and financially its an issue for him so not sure why he isn't sorting it.Have finances been agreed?

HipsterAssassin · 24/01/2018 12:56

Yes, finances agreed. She says she’ll make no further claim, equity from the house was split 6 years ago, 50/50. She works and cohabits with a man who has a sizeable income. He has paid the relevant maintenance since the split. His eldest is approaching 18.

He’s very involved in my life, makes sure he is there for important dates with my family (important celebrations like birthdays etc). He doesn’t have me compartmentalised. I see his friends etc.

Problem is for me - I don’t like being in a LTR with someone who’s married to someone else. Not any more. Fine, you may say, leave... and that’s true.

Or you could equally say what’s the issue if not co-habiting.

He says the reason for not doing it is pure laziness on their part. But maybe there’s more to it... who knows? Perhaps on an unconscious level they can’t quite ‘cut the cord’ (they are friends and that’s different to my relationship with my ex which is friendly, but more cut-and-dried)?

My last relationship taught me to pay more attention to actions from men than words. Particularly when two don’t match.

I’m worried if I let this drift I’m just happily shovelling more into the pot marked ‘Sunken Costs’.

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namechange2222 · 24/01/2018 12:58

My Ex h and I didn't divorce for about 12 years after separating. He'd left for OW but they split after a few years. He met a lovely woman and they were contemplating getting married and then found himself unemployed for a period of time and think he could file for free? Anyway, he was so tight he wouldn't have paid for it so it must have been cheap anyway! Forms came through in the post, I signed and that was that. I'd already bought him out of the house, children were adults, it was completely simple. Maybe it's the fear of the unknown for your partner? My ex and I were both really scared about the actual process having no experience of it but it was actually very straight forward. Do either of you have a friend who could talk him through the process?

TheStoic · 24/01/2018 13:00

I’m worried if I let this drift I’m just happily shovelling more into the pot marked ‘Sunken Costs’

What can you do about it, though? The only thing in your control is ending the relationship.

AnneLovesGilbert · 24/01/2018 13:01

It clearly IS a problem because OP is upset at his reluctance to cease being married to another woman Hmm

hattyhighlighter · 24/01/2018 13:06

Realistically you have 3 options:

  1. carry on as you are
  2. give him an ultimatum
  3. break up

What you can't do is make him get divorced. You can tell him how you feel about it, which you have done. You can see how he reacts and perhaps mentally set a deadline. It really depends what your own dealbreakers are OP. What you do know is keep reminding him to get divorced is not going to work.

HipsterAssassin · 24/01/2018 13:09

I do know that, hatty you’re right. And that’s the problem.

It’s a shit or get off the pot thing for me.

The suggestion from Notasperfect is not a bad one.

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HipsterAssassin · 25/01/2018 12:53

So I asked BF about it yesterday. I told him I will not be reminding him about anything to do with the divorce and made it clear the ball is in his court. Said you either will or you will not... and I’ll either get fed up or not. He rang his ex and it sounds like there is some progress (moot point).

Absolutely zilch that I can do about this now, BUT I feel much, much happier telling him clearly that I won’t accept any role in whether it happens or not. Think that was niggling away - his response that I should ‘nag’ him (aaarrrgh that word!).

I will re-assess in a year. If no real progress by then I’ll be making it my New Year’s resolution to stop sleeping with married men.
Happy with that. Thanks Flowers

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