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WHAT TO DO WHEN CO-PARENTING BREAKDOWN AND EX PARTNER IS VILE AND USELESS

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Sarajandb · 22/01/2018 11:23

Ok so my and my ex have been separated for 4 1/2 years hes been in a relationship for 4 years i have been in a relationship for 3 years. The children live with me (he lives a hour away) The set up is he is supposed to have them 3 Saturdays then one off (so on his weekend off he doesn't see them for 2 full weeks ) The relationship has always been bitter. He has 0 respect for me. The police have been a called a number times for him kicking off in front off them hes made various threats to me family members my partner, he tries to intimidate and scare me. Refuses to go along with anything i say and goes out of his way to make things difficult. He pays their maintenance when he wants misses regular but never catches up his attitude is its tuff sh*t.
The oldest doens't want to go regular as hes fed up with broken promises and the way his dad is with me infront of them hes very protective. So recently he told me that his gf is pregnant and already its starting to effect the kids. he didnt turn up for them this wekeend next weekend is my weekend also so that will be 4 weeks he wont see them at all. This happens regular. Hes changed his job to nights not informed me and told me he wants me to now do the travel. 1st he is more than capable of picking them up from school on a friday in stead of the saturday morning. His partner and his mum both drive. I get very little time where i'm without my kids to do the things i needs to do, washing, ironing, cleaning, errands and meeting with friends or just to relax whatever. I have got the the point where its easier for the kids to stay home its not worth the hassle today because i wont make that trip for him 3 weeks out of 4 ive got massive essays from his partner about im vile and my kids will see me for what i am etc hes not coming for them or i can wait in sat till he gets up threats endless messages and missed calls. I literally cant cope with it anymore. I want my kids to have a relationship with their dad and i most certainly enjoy the break when they go but i cant take it anymore the BS. I've suggested mediation he refuses. I've considered a non-molestation order but i can't afford a lengthy court battle and wouldnt be entitled to legal aid as i ern too much. My oldest has special needs of which his dads never had any involvement in appointments etc he never beleived me and laughed at me when i said there was something wrong with him when he was little and its very hard when something kicks off he kicks off and its very unsettling and difficult to deal with him his behaviour effects the kids and im not saying i don't react because i do which doesn't help but its just all too much i would rather no contact ive suggested his mum doing pick ups he wont do it ive suggested many things hes just awkward and wont budge on anything but wants me to do it for him. I do enough all week with school runs work after school hospital appointments homework etc all the normal mum stuff washing cooking bath time cleaning i don't then need to pick up his pieces because he cant arrange his 3 days a month for his own kids. Any suggestions i'm at my wits end. I don't want to be the mum who stops them from going to force him to see a a solicitor but this isn't healthy for me or my kids.

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GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 22/01/2018 14:44

Just. Say. No. For all the reasons you've explained above.

Tell him the children are available for him to come and collect at xx time.

If he choses not to, that's his decision.

Make sure you keep a record of all communications.

MrsBertBibby · 22/01/2018 14:54

It isn't correct to say you can't get legal aid for a non mol because your income is too high. The Legal Aid Agency operate a DV waiver, such that anyone can get funding for a non mol, on the basis they contribute from excess income.

The number of legal aid solicitors that Don't know this is bewildering. It has been in force since at least 2008.

As to maintenance, go to the CMS. They will enforce arrears. It will cost you 20 quid. Just do it!

Sarajandb · 29/01/2018 13:11

Well i blocked him due to abusive calls and text and i blocked her instantly after sending me a number of rants its none of her damn business and its one thing taking abuse from him but under no circumstances will i stand from it from her. Despite that i have blocked him he is able to contact me if her really wanted to via other ways then my phone.
He is still however been messaging and calling my partner threatening him. Hes not seen the kids for 4 weeks. Hes clearly not that bothered of thinks as per usually i will feel guilty for the kids and resolve to sort it out but i'm not this time he will remain blocked. I've asked him for mediation he refused and I've told him to feel free to see a solicitor. It's been quite blissful not having to deal with him. The kids aren't remotely bothered they haven't even asked to speak to him let alone see him.

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Sarajandb · 29/01/2018 13:12

I've been to seek legal advise for the non Mol i wasn't aware that legal aid could still be available thank you

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sassymuffin · 29/01/2018 13:38

Keep any messages as proof of harassment and intimidation and go to the police.

He doesn't get to dictate your life anymore.

I know you don't want to engage in a length legal process but I really would advise getting a solicitor to send a letter stating that you will make the children available for access at the usual pre arranged time but will not be driving them to him. Can you ask a family member or friend to be present at pick up/drop off to hopefully stop further aggression at these times?

Definitely without a shadow of a doubt go to the CMS to arrange child support. If you continue with your informal arrangement he can mess you about whenever he wants and will use it as a form of control.

You don't have to agree to mediation as there has been previous threats and intimidation.

Keep a record of every message, record every phone call, even film every pick up if he is using that time to threaten you. Document every time he doesn't pick the kids up. He will try to press every button possible to get you to argue back with him but it is important to remain calm.

Sarajandb · 29/01/2018 14:02

thanks so much for your advise. Hes quite clever he tried not to put things in messages he usually does it on the doorstep or over the phone, trouble with recording is he would just get angry and snatch and smash my phone and in front of the kids. Maintenance I've contacted them. I'm going to visit a solicitor to see my options and get something written up to him. I'm collating all my evidence into a file to pass to a solicitor.
thanks

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sassymuffin · 29/01/2018 14:45

Yes I've had a narc ex and he would be careful with messages. Perhaps it will be best to go with having a second person present at handovers.

The legalities of recording a call are complex but as long as you do it because you think it is in connection with a potential crime (threat of violence) and as long as you don't play it to a third party other than your solicitor or police then it is ok. If you can get him to call your mobile rather than a landline that is easier. You can download a free call recorder app that records all incoming calls from google play.

On hand overs I positioned a second mobile between a plantpot and filmed it as I was genuinely frightened of ex. It sounds extreme but it was the only way I got free of him but it is a last resort really. I'm sure legal proceedings will be the way to go initially.

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