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How to go No contact/minimal contact

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JeansandJumpers · 18/01/2018 15:20

Hello, I won't bore you with the backstory to my narcissistic mother, but about 7 years she said things so horrific that I said I didn't want to be in contact with her except if she was ill, for b-days and xmas, or if something significant happened. But that I loved her. Unfortunately, without apologising, in fact making it seem like it is ME who has been forgiven, I have been coerced into spending time with her (by golden child) and the abuse, though less blatant and frequent, continues. I have tried to maintain a facade that I can cope. But I can't. Her company and phone calls have my adrenalin pumping and I am in tears when I put down the phone. She may not be saying anything blatantly wrong but every story is about how much better other people are than me. I can't control the impact it has on me physiologically. I have said, numerous times, I would prefer if you didn't call me., unless you need something. IN fact when I answered this week I said 'whats wrong?" and she said, "does there need to be something wrong for me to call you" and I said "well yes" and she launched into soliliquies aboute the fabulousness of herself and other people's children. I was raging inside, and wrung out. To say I can't speak to you again will result in more accusations of me being mentally ill, and struck out of the will. Is there any point explaining how I feel? How do I go no contact/minimum without causing another nuclear attack involving extended friends and family? How do I minimise collateral damage? If this specific element of my question has been answered before I am happy to be directed to the correct part of a thread - I have been reading through but find a lot about behaviours of NPD and being NC, or decinding to go NC, but not HOW. Thank you

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Wolfiefan · 18/01/2018 15:27

I moved. And didn't phone or write.
They don't have my number.

Graphista · 18/01/2018 15:33

I've only succeeded in completely Nc with sister. I sent a final text explaining why - but I know she doesn't accept the reasons as others have told me - then blocked her on phone, sm, email everything.

I'd been Nc with her twice before but this time was different.

I've tried to do the same with dad but mum (who I still want a relationship with) pesters the life out of me each time. But we're very lc. Speak on special occasions I don't see him face to face.

Have you tried outofthefog site? There's forums on there too, plus the stately homes thread on here. I'm sure if you ask there you'd get good advice.,

JeansandJumpers · 18/01/2018 15:43

Thank you. I mean obviously I know how to but I want to do this as painlessly as possible - I guess the key questions are is there any point explaining/how to word it.

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Graphista · 18/01/2018 15:59

I did explain - but for me not them. And it wasn't an invitation to discuss the reasons. More a list. (A long one!)

JeansandJumpers · 18/01/2018 16:11

HI Graphista - how did they react? I don't want to go too dramatic (blocking/changing number). I did explain all those years ago, in very general terms, i.e not going into the specific examples of violence and hurtful things said as these have, in the past, been met with ' you are making things up' or 'playing the victim' or 'unable to let go of the past'. But I felt I was gentle but firm. Its like I said nothing and that I must have been having 'mental healthy issues' when I said that. When, under coercian, I DID see her, she was a nasty bitch as usual. Golden child said 'she doesn't mean it' and that I should learn to just let it go. I can't. If I cut contact with mother it will destroy relationship with GC which is tenuous enough as it is.

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Graphista · 18/01/2018 16:37

No idea how they reacted beyond being told they didn't agree with my reasons. They weren't able to contact me FOR me to know how they reacted.

Sounds like you are still very deep in fog. How they feel, how they react is not your problem. That's the only way to view it in order not to let them get to you.

What they did before by saying you were making it up etc was gaslighting and further abuse.

I have been clear with my mum who is normally the worst flying monkey that I am not interested in my sisters life any more AT ALL. I don't want to know ANYTHING about her and I do not want her to know anything about me either.

Sometimes mum needs reminding "I'm not interested" and I change the subject.

Do you WANT to stay in contact with gc or do you just feel you have to?

JeansandJumpers · 18/01/2018 17:03

Hi Graphista, I wasn't it fog until I was dragged back into it...thinking I was strong enough to cope, but, I'm not. I do want to keep in contact with GC, I love GC, and I can see that GC will have a breakdown if GC faces up to reality. Narcissistic mother did switch her attention to GC, in a negative way, when I removed myself from the equation, but GC is, with difficulty, putting up a facade that they can cope...

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 18/01/2018 17:08

"I don't want to go too dramatic (blocking/changing number)"

I have posted on your other thread and I hope you find my response on there helpful. Its really not dramatic to do such things re your mother. Your own FOG is causing you to think otherwise.

Golden child would say that; this person is only acting in their own self interest and that person does not want to rock the boat with mother dearest. Read up on triangulation as well. GC as well may not have a breakdown at all, infact that person may well never face up to reality. Look after your own self here because the GC won't and nor will your mother.

mrsBeverleyGoldberg · 18/01/2018 17:17

Changed phone number, email, mobile number, moved house, children moved school. Changed dcs trust fund that they contributed to. Selected guardians in our will and wrote in our will to say dcs have nothing to do with them.
No relatives have this information either. I don't ask after my parents either, I don't need to know anything about them.
I don't contact my parents either.
There is no point explaining why. I did and got an abusive reply. Narcissists won't accept they are at fault.
It was one of the hardest and the best things I've ever done. Five years this year!

JeansandJumpers · 18/01/2018 17:21

Thanks again Atilla - you seem VERY well verses in this subject, and I will do the reading you suggest. Mrsbeverly, thanks for sharing your story. If only I had some other family!

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Graphista · 18/01/2018 17:51

Attila is brilliant on this stuff. I agree GC is just further manipulating

jenthehen · 18/01/2018 18:02

I remain in brief and to the point contact by text with my mother as she has apologised for the way she treated me but I do not respond to any messages from my father or sister. I was always the one who obliged, helped etc but I was treated very badly by my sister and was expected to put up and shut up with the appalling way she behaved towards me, I'd had enough and refused. I think they were all shocked that I stuck to my guns but 3 years down the line I am more relaxed in the knowledge that they're not continually belittling me etc I'm independent and concentrate on my own little family. I have fantastic friends and neighbours who genuinely care for me. As they say "you can't choose your family" but you can take action to lessen the damage.

mrsBeverleyGoldberg · 19/01/2018 09:27

You're not alone.

namechange2222 · 19/01/2018 09:30

I'd continue sending birthday and Christmas greetings if you want to. However if you only want contact if something is wrong could you ask that should anything dire happen golden child let you know?

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