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Narcissist?? Help ???

21 replies

Dailymailshutyamouth · 13/01/2018 21:14

I've posted about exP on this quite a bit since our breakup 4ish months ago. Pretty much because my friends got bored of the ongoing dramas and said I'd made my own bed.

For a bit of context - met him Jan last year. Meant to be casual as he just came out of a LTR, but developed further to the point of being in a committed relationship. All the way through behaviour was pretty poor. He used to go distant and then turn his phone off/say he was too tired to talk, snapped all the time etc. He let his good friend sleep in our bed with him after a night out (both insisted nothing happened). Resulting from this I ended up with a broken wrist. He would namecall a lot saying I needed constant attention, that I was nuts, that he wasn't my therapist (but I was pretty much his).

He broke up with me 2 days before my birthday and a week before I was meant to move in. He wouldn't respect my wishes to cut contact and very much wanted to act like a protector over me all the time - hed pay for a deposit for a flat etc. Because I was so low I ended up sleeping at his a lot (nowhere else to go) and dropping out of my PhD. He would maintain contact with me saying he wasn't ready for a relationship but he wasn't ready to lose me. A week after we broke up I went to his work related event to support him and he was plastered. Ended up taking advantage of me leaving me with facial bruising and bruised legs after he came back to mine (consensual of course - wanted sex but bot this). Left in the morning being a total arse, moody as I was moving out and no shampoo before work. I was moving out that day. Sent him pics that night of what he had done. Cue massive guilt messages of how he had to quit drink, how he loved me but last night wasn't him it was the drink etc. Said he would give this up.

Anyway, around November I tried REALLY hard to cut contact. I mean really hard. I got a grip so to speak and started applying for graduate jobs, plans to move to new city with close friend. I can't explain it but I feel like he knew I was moving away from him ? He would text when I didn't reply and what not. I would respond eventually out of guilt and to be honest obviously I missed him. And we met to exchange Xmas gifts etc. He text me throughout Xmas, which is quite couplely imo (midnight text on Xmas eve of merry Christmas baby (pet name) xxxx" ), all the way up to NYE saying he had me a new gift and that we should meet for coffee. From new years day to this time last week he was sending me constant messages suggesting he had a change of heart about the breakup and was very apologetic. He was saying how he thought I was perfect and hed never forgive himself for what he did to me. I said I didn't know what to say - being very guarded.

When we met up he said I wasn't being myself (submissive I'd assume) and wore me down telling me how I was making "bad choices" how I was so much more when I met him. I ended up crying and he asked me to stay at his as i was in no state to get the bus home. So I did. He comforted me about MH issues. Nostalgia trip about our relationship, regrets about breaking up, kissing, crying, cuddling, hand holding and sex. Next day more of the same. When I left texts about "this mess" and how he regretted breakup and that he thinks we should try again. Last weekend was pretty emotional for me.

So on Monday he texts me saying how are you feeling. I said alright, was at work preparing for new interview. He said I looked after him st the weekend and he wanted to look after me so he wanted to meet after work so he could hand me a book. I said don't worry we just see each other Friday as we planned. He said he was excited to see me so I agreed.

Now at the bus stop (where he met me) he told me "when I went back to work, all the thoughts of us left my head. We have no future." I was a bit shocked to be honest but said okay. He got aggressive asking why I wasn't upset. I said I didn't feel sad. He said that he thought I was pissed off because I made a bad decision staying at his. I said I didn't appreciate my head being messed with and was he done? He said "I was fucking done 4 months ago !" Then he in all honesty asked if we were going to stay in contact?! I said no need, see ya later.

Is this narcissistic behaviour ? I have an anxiety all the time that it's not over (definitely not in a romantic way) in that he will always find a reason to get in contact or to control how I feel.

Has anyone got similar experience ?

OP posts:
Poshindevon · 13/01/2018 21:54

He is not a narcissist but he is manipulative and you are a needy foolish woman who allows this man to ride rough shod over you.
All telephones and social media have a block facility and this is what you do, you block him. Change your number if neccesary.
No wonder your friends are bored with you. You allow all this drama to happen. Get some back bone and stop playing the victim.

Lifeisabeach09 · 13/01/2018 21:58

He is an asshole!
You are being a mug.
Block him.

Shinybothways · 13/01/2018 21:59

Horrible abusing piece of work. Doesn’t matter if he’s a narcissist or not does it? He’s a fucking horror.

Firm up, and don’t “try” to cut contact, just do it.

Shinybothways · 13/01/2018 21:59

And seek counselling.

Haffiana · 13/01/2018 22:05

Never mind about him - do you think that your behaviour is remotely normal? What do you want for your life?

dlnex · 13/01/2018 22:15

Sometimes people find themselves in relationships which would not be acceptable to others.
I think you know that his behavior is terrible, that you can do better, or at least you would be better of without him. If you are ready to cut contact, do that 100% and take yourself far, far away from him.

helenoftroyville · 13/01/2018 22:15

You should never stay with a man who leaves bruises on you and makes you cry.

Block him on everything.

It's a new year, find your strength and start a new life without him. He is abusive.

ShawshanksRedemption · 13/01/2018 22:23

I think you need to look at why you aren't actually cutting contact. You know he is abusive, you talk about being his "therapist" (are you a "rescuer"?), and yet you keep going back to him, meeting him. Why?

mmzz · 13/01/2018 22:24

This is textbook gaslighting. Often it's done by narcissists but not always. It's always about control. It is very, very harmful (for you).

Best thing to do is cut all contact and make sure he can't contact you. Don't tell him. Don't give him anything. Just go.

MozzchopsThirty · 13/01/2018 22:33

You haven't tried to cut contact at all OP because he can still message you

I've been in a similar situation, kept replying to texts, thought I was being aloof but really any response is all they need.
He would reel me in saying he still loved me, couldn't move on, arrange to meet then the day before would text to say 'oh there's no point this will never work'
And repeated monthly 🙄🙄🙄

I eventually wised up and he's now blocked on text, calls, WhatsApp and fb
It's bliss

mmzz · 13/01/2018 22:47

It's gaslighting because he's pulling you in and then pushing you away so you don't know where you stand. He's trying to destabilise you so that you have to lean on him. By posting here, it shows you already don't trust your own guy instincts.
Does he call you crazy? Deny what he said just yesterday (eg I want us back together). Try to make you see that everyone else on life is seriously flawed, this isolating you?

butterfly56 · 13/01/2018 23:02

You need to go no contact OP...block him on your phone, stay away from him.
He is an abusive arsehole and he has you totally confused about which way is up!
That is why you are questioning yourself all the time.
He a malicious manipulator who thought that messing with your head he could destroy you.
He is full of hatred for himself and projects it onto you.

These people are very dangerous to be around and you need to stay away from him for your own safety Flowers

Merryoldgoat · 13/01/2018 23:57

I know you've namechanged but I recognise these details - you've posted many times, people tell you to leave, you say you will and then here we are again.

You will end up a broken wreck at best, dead at worst if you continue to engage with him.

How the fuck have you ended up with a bruised face from consensual sex? He broke your wrist. This isn't a game.

If I were your friend I'd have lost patience long ago - YOU CANNOT CHANGE HIM - HE IS AN ABUSER.

Merryoldgoat · 14/01/2018 13:25

So I guess OP hasn’t liked any of the responses!

mmzz · 14/01/2018 17:57

It's hard to find the clarity of thought to leave a relationship like that. It took me years even though everyone (even people who barely knew me) could see that I needed to get out and would advise to me, even when I didn't ask for their advice.
I'm guessing the OP has been shaken by our posts and has gone back to him seeking comfort.
She'll leave in the end, bit I don't know what it will take since she's already being physically hurt and even that isn't enough of a red flag.

Dailymailshutyamouth · 14/01/2018 18:29

I've read all your replies. I haven't gone back to him. I've rang my network and blocked his number that way so i can't undo it in an impulse. I

I feel really numb and have only just comprehended warnings of his behaviour. I'm not doing this because I enjoy it or seek the drama, I can't explain why I stayed so long or why I wanted to be with him.

Some people might think I'm a mug or like playing the victim and that's fine. But I think there's a lot of conflicting feelings coming out of something so volatile. And there's a lot of confusion when the person who comforts you is the person who hurt you.

Anyway I have taken my first positive step to remove him from my life.

Thank you for helpful posts

OP posts:
Runninglateeveryday · 14/01/2018 18:51

He sounds like a classic cunt, what exactly do you get out of this?

Please walk away he's keeping you on a string till he finds someone he likes enough to commit too.

mmzz · 14/01/2018 18:56

Dailymailshutyamouth - i can't explain why I stayed so long either (and I stayed for years). Its to do with how he gets deep into your psyche. He destabilises you. He makes you crave stability and then when you are really upset, he reaches out and seems to offer peace and comfort.

Each time, you burn a few more bridges with those around you. They think you like the drama or they just lose patience. That suits him because it isolates you from those who'll keep you sane and who'll tell you that your mind is not playing tricks on you i.e. the latest thing he has done (whatever the latest thing is) really is that bad.

By the time i broke away, i had no friends left and my family were getting very tired of it. It will hurt at first, but its a great feeling when you start feeling normal again.

He won't let you go easily though. Be warned.

NormaNameChange · 14/01/2018 19:36

OP, can I ask, from your post, the description of your sex and this When we met up he said I wasn't being myself (submissive I'd assume) were you in something resembling a D/s dynamic?

It wont change my response but...it might change my advice on moving forward. You need to get this man out of your life. You need to block him - elsewhere and try not to let yourself get drawn back in. He is dangerous, to both your mental and physical health.

highinthesky · 14/01/2018 19:39

OP, when are you gonna take your limerance-goggles off and start to value yourself?

Pixiebloom · 14/01/2018 20:07

No not an actual submissive.

But come to think of it, a very submissive/dominant dynamic during sex which could explain some behaviour outside the bedroom.

I've booked in with my counsellor tomorrow (he told me to stop seeing him - "why do you see a MALE counsellor?")

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