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Can't get over EA

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Hyannis · 10/01/2018 12:02

Hello all - first time poster here. Long winded one so please bear with me. So about two years ago I had an emotional affair. It grew slowly and unexpectedly and certainly wasn't planned. At the time I had been going through some difficulties in my marriage and I suppose this made me more susceptible to allowing myself to fall into the EA. At first it was just common pursuits, spending more and more time on shared interests with the other person but gradually I began to realise that I was developing feelings for him. I slowly shared details of my marital struggle and - on reflection - was probably hoping that his marriage was as rocky as mine though he was always careful never to criticise his OH at first. Sounds like a text book EA right?

Gradually he began to hint that things weren't all rosy in his marriage and we'd end up walking for miles together just talking about everything except our marriages but both looking forward to the time we had together, without ever saying so. We didn't confess our feelings to each other until late in the EA and even then both agreed that in order to not damage our families we wouldn't act on our feelings. We mutually agreed that it was a hopeless situation - he'd never leave his family or cause hurt to his kids or wife. I knew my marriage was ending - too much distance between us and we'd lost our connection and neither of us had the desire to reconnect. Gradually we were both able to dampen the our feelings and put some distance between us. The walks and coffees stopped, we saw less and less of each other though we still texted each other a lot, every day.

I know I am opening myself up for a flaming here but there were so many factors that combined to create the situation - some of my own making others that came about through how life happens day to day. I know the buzz of attention from someone else is massive and also possibly a false pleasure and in a way I know that maybe some element of this for him was an ego boost but the feelings felt strong and intense. There was one moment where we almost crossed the line but it just seemed to be destructive so we backed off and tried to rationalise the feelings.

In time I suppose he worked on his marriage and was able to fix the issues that had caused him to engage in the EA. Two years later I suppose this is why I still find it hard. I see his family holiday snaps and they show a perfect happy loving family. I look at him and remember the struggles in his marriage that he confessed to me and I see the hugs and the smiles and it still tears at me. At the time of the EA we agreed that we needed to just extinguish our feelings and concentrate on the friendship that we had develop before we 'fell for each other'. I think one of the reasons why we didn't take things further was that we decided a lasting friendship of sorts was better than going too far and wrecking everything. To this day his wife doesn't know anything about the EA. She is totally oblivious and clearly adores him. My husband found out and it was a catalyst for the end of our marriage among other things. I understand that finding out your OH has feelings for someone else, even if not acted upon, is as bad as physical betrayal.

I also sometimes think that I was an ego boost for him when he was bored. We continued our text relationship - nothing more than idle chit chat - and saw each other occasionally (but not for the walks we used to enjoy, just in passing when our hobby brought us together in the same place) but I guess that was still some kind of contact. You might say that should have been shut down too but we wanted to shift that relationship into friendship and just work at scrubbing away the attraction part. I think for him he was able to do that - mending his marriage meant that he had a renewed connection with his wife. For me I didn't have that and still found myself craving his attention almost to feel wanted by him (even though I knew I was probably just a distraction when he was bored or if he was feeling slightly neglected - his wife works away a lot)

I apologise for the long winded post. I suppose I'm trying to find out how I can handle the feelings that still bubble up when I see pictures of him on social media or just reflect on the past. It's almost like I'm mourning something that felt so right (we were well matched in so many ways) but just can't let go of. It's like I've missed an opportunity, even though I know that opportunity was purely selfish and would have damaged our families. He seems to have been able to rationalise his feelings, put our connection back on the platonic and slip back into a happy marriage as if nothing ever happened between us.
I fluctuate. Some days I forget all about him, other days the feelings are still so real and raw and intense. I don't want to cut off contact because I value his friendship - idle talk and gossip and everyday junk chat - and I feel like it's already been agreed that that is what we want and can have. Maybe I can't cut him off completely as that small glimmer of contact via text makes me feels like there's still something there from him? It's like we were friends, who fell into attraction and then went back to friends again. He seems more able to do that. I am no longer with my husband so I guess part of this is that there is no one else and nowhere else to go with these feelings that keep rising to the surface.
I'm wondering if anyone else has felt this or gone through this?

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NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 · 10/01/2018 17:34

I went through something similar. I bumped into an ex about 5 months ago by accident and we started up messaging. It got a bit flirty and he propositioned me but I turned him down. Messaging continued but it has stopped now as I'm not initiating any contact.

It is tough, really tough as I have feelings for him. I don't think the feelings ever went away. But I am planning to leave my marriage this year and I want to leave of my own accord, not because of him.

Sometimes I feel angry that I took the moral high ground but ultimately I respect myself for that.

At the moment your guy is having his cake and eating it. He is getting an ego boost from you while enjoying family life with his wife. You need to go no contact.

Please join us over on the no contact Dignity thread. There is no judgement but plenty of support.

yetmorecrap · 10/01/2018 17:58

I dont actually think this guy is nearly such a nice guy as you think. If he was I think he would avoid contact with you like the plague having had such a 'close' relationship and feelings for you, out of respect for his wife and marriage to be honest. My DH had a similar situation with someone many years ago now and I found out 11 years after that time accidentally as he had written stuff down. What I feel has hurt me more is the fact he continued the friendship after his funny 5 minutes (well several years actually) and didnt cut it all stone dead the minute he realised he went too far. You were in the wrong yes but its clear your marriage was dead in the water from what you say, he on the other hand carried on his marriage with a wife who is obliviousand thats why he should have cut it dead. I actually think he is being rather cruel, especially if he is aware you still have feelings that way (and they dont tend to just go away if they are 'fed'--even as friends)

Hyannis · 10/01/2018 18:35

Thank you for your replies.
I think the hardest thing for me is that I don't want to let go of the contact we have because I guess when he contacts me, even about silly, meaningless things it makes me feel like he's giving me the attention I enjoyed before and that I'm still in his thoughts. In the main I've managed to put our relationship down as friendship though I struggle when feelings for him rise up. It's not all the time. I even wonder if the feelings are real or if they are because I'm now alone and I see his happy marriage and feel jealous and in a way sometimes angry that he can be so happy - as if he dodged a bullet with me! He went away for xmas and we haven't been in contact for over 3 weeks but it feels like we're both making a point of sorts and seeing who 'breaks' first though equally I feel it's more me thinking this way and he'll just as likely pop up tomorrow with a throwaway text message as if nothing has happened. I also think that if I tell him that I want to break off all contact I'll lose something that I know is futile but also seems melodramatic (seeing as we both supposedly agreed that we were now just friends with no other feelings) So confused. Sad

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Huntinginthedark · 10/01/2018 19:15

I think no matter how you feel about him, continuing contact with him is holding you back.
You can't move forward and find your own happiness when you're having to see his life which I'm sure you felt might be your life.

NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 · 10/01/2018 19:25

Agree that he is holding you back and it's not a friendship if you have feelings. It's just him throwing you crumbs for an ego boost every now and again.

No need for s big dramatic cut off contact thing. I've just stopped initiating contact and made myself offline at times he'd be online so it's naturally coming to an ending. No drama just a tail off.

I'm making it sound easy. It isn't. I feel like I could be turning my back on the love of my life but neither of us are available right now. So that's just the way it has to be.

yetmorecrap · 10/01/2018 20:07

it’s probably worse OP because you are on your own. If you start thinking about building a life fully again and maybe meeting a few new people as well , it may gradually have less importance and be less on your mind

SorenLorensonsInvisibleFriend · 10/01/2018 20:34

Things may be great for him and his wife now, or he may be struggling and still have feelings for you. You simply cannot know. And that's what you have to accept, which is something I always find impossible - not knowing. The bottom line is that, however he feels, he has made a choice to stay with his relationship. It's not your responsibility to worry over whether it's real, or happy, or if he misses you. It was what it was between you, it changed lives, and now it's passed.

But you have the opportunity and the ability to create a new relationship for yourself. Using the knowledge of the things that attracted you to him, the things you've learned about yourself, and the freedom you have now. He's relevant as part of your past, but not as your future. I would be tempted to try and 'mute' him on social media at least until you feel stronger in yourself and more centred and in control of your own life. Good luck, I hope you find someone who lights you up who you can have for your own!

Hyannis · 10/01/2018 20:38

Thank you for you replies :) My feelings ebb and flow but they don't go away as they should. I think I'm over him and that I can box off the relationship as two people just sending idle text messages (there's never anything flirty, or risque in the texts, just daily natter) but certain situations or moments make me pine for something that's never going to happen.
I know if I find myself meeting someone else he'll become less important but the trouble is I'm inclined to use him as a yardstick!
I know I should get a grip but it's emotions we're talking about and those things are hard to be cold and calculated about!

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NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 · 10/01/2018 20:54

You're totally contradicting yourself in your posts though. If you could box off the friendship his relationship status wouldn't bother you. I think you need to be honest with yourself. Two years is a long time to waste on a one sided friendship. I'm sure you have other friends who you can exchange idle chit chat with him. He doesn't even seem to serve a purpose.

Hyannis · 10/01/2018 20:59

No you are right - it is a contradiction! Sometimes I can be rational, other times I can't. I need to cut this guy out and move on - I know this. I just needed it out there and hear other people's thoughts to be able to allow myself to admit it. It's going to be hard - he's a habit but most probably not a good one. Thank you for the words x

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NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 · 10/01/2018 21:07

It's going to be really hard because you are kicking a 2 year habit. But it's for the greater good. He doesn't deserve your friendship. The other thread is there if you need support. I'd be lost without it.

Huntinginthedark · 10/01/2018 21:19

You do really need to extract yourself from this relationship. It's not a proper friendship and it's not a proper relationship
It's limbo, and that's pretty shit for you
For him, I imagine it satisfies a need. Which doesn't help you at all

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