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thinking of leaving possibly abusive husband - please help

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Lostmummy123 · 21/12/2017 10:08

I have never written on here before, and need some help. I don’t know what to do. I am nearly 5 months pregnant and have a 3 year old and a 1 year old. I think today is the last straw, after what I now think is years of emotional abuse. This morning before work, I asked my husband to move the child seats from my car to his (he has the day off today and is looking after the children while I am at work). He wouldn’t, so I took them out, and told him he would have to fit them himself, as they are heavy, I am pregnant, and was going to be late for work. On the drive to work I had several missed calls from him and a load of messages telling me I needed to call him (using not very nice language). I called him when I got to work and he began screaming at me as he couldn’t fit the car seats. I tried explaining and he began telling me I was an idiot, swearing, calling me useless and that I had the communication skills of a toddler. I myself have only fitted the one seat once, as my 1 year old has only recently moved into it. I then said for him to give me a minute and I would send him a link to the video instructions on how to fit the seat. He then began screaming again, and telling me I had better not hang up on him, to stop being an idiot, and to just explain. The screaming went on for ages and I am sat in my work car park, crying my eyes out and can hear my kids crying in the house as they hate it when he gets so angry. Eventually I hung up and sent him the video, and he managed to fit the seat, and since then have had endless messages calling me the c word, an f’ing idiot, how it’s my fault he is going to be late going out etc. I can’t take anymore.
Like I said this is the last straw. He constantly belittles me, tells me I am useless, has told me he hates me, pouits me down. We went to a family party on the weekend and he told me I looked nice…..for a granny. When we go out he always walks ahead of me, never waits or helps, and he knows I can’t walk as fast pregnant and pushing a buggy and tells me to hurry up all the time. On several occasions over the years he has grabbed me by the throat, including when I have been pregnant and when I have been holding a newborn baby. The last time was a few weeks ago when he hit his head because I had asked him to fix a shelf on a bookcase in our sons room, so he grabbed me by the throat. After my second was born, I was really unwell and turns out I had pluracy, I could barely breathe, and was struggling with a then 20 month old and a newborn. He told me he hated me and I was useless because he asked me a question that I couldn’t answer. During rows he has thrown a highchair across the room, and has often threatened to hurt me. When he calms down he tells me he is sorry, and that I wind him up, and don’t help the situation, and he will try to stay calm in the future. Little things all the time, digs about my cooking, that the house isn’t clean enough, that I only work part time, and he ‘provides everything’. He can be so horrible to our little boy (he has never hit him), but he has grabbed him and shaken him, and the last time I did ask him to leave, as I said I wouldn’t have my children in that environment. He refused to leave and told me I would have to be the one to go. I don’t want to have to leave our home – my parents paid for practically all the furniture, I paid the deposit, but since having the children I am only able to work part time, so for the last year he has paid 2/3 of the bills. He said he will never leave, and that if I leave him , it will be my fault, and he will burn the house to the ground rather than let me have it. He has told me that if I ever changed the locks he would smash every window, and I believe him. When he gets drunk, he is absolutely vile, says terrible things, wets himself, wets the bed, is sick everywhere. A few months before our wedding he got so drunk he kicked my car so much that he dented the panels, and we had to call the police. I know If I left him he would at best trash the house in a drunken rage, and I dread to think what else.
I have always made excuses for his behaviour – stress at work, stress of being a parent etc- and think it was my fault for winding him up but I really don’t think anything I have ever done warrants his behaviour.
I can’t talk to any friends or family as I am so ashamed and embarrassed that I have let this happen. I don’t want to be a single parent, I don’t know how I will manage, but am beginning to think there is no other option. I don’t want people to think I am taking the easy way out by leaving and feel I should try harder to fix things but I don’t know what to do. I am on eggshells constantly. I don’t know what to do.

OP posts:
Slaylormoon · 21/12/2017 11:12

You deserve so so so much more than this.

Sunshinegirl82 · 21/12/2017 11:13

I'm so sorry that this is happening to you OP. This is not normal and it's not your fault. You don't need to "try harder" to fix things because none of this is your fault, it's all on him.

I felt so frightened and sad reading your post, I'm amazed you are managing to hold things together at all never mind go to work. You must be an incredibly strong person.

You can do this. Tell your family, they will want to help you, you have nothing to be embarrassed about. Talk to Women's Aid, they will be able to help you take the first steps. You can do this, getting out of that environment is the best Christmas present your kids will ever get. Good luck.

Slaylormoon · 21/12/2017 11:13

and you absolutely have been physically abused!

Sunshinegirl82 · 21/12/2017 11:15

Women's Aid can direct you toward a solicitor who is used to dealing with abusive men. I would also call 111 and see if the police can give any advice.

You have been physically abused as has your son. Your husband has grabbed you by the throat when pregnant. This is deadly serious. They will take you seriously.

funkyzebra · 21/12/2017 11:23

Just wanted to add as well that abuse often gets worse during pregnancy. This is a good time to leave.Thanks
(Grabbing by the throat is definitely abuse. No doubt.)

funkyzebra · 21/12/2017 11:27

There are lots of lovely men out there who would be delighted to have you and would be kind to you. BUT you need to be kind to yourself first and this involves getting help and allowing yourself to leave this situation. You have not done anything wrong, he has.

Lostmummy123 · 21/12/2017 12:01

Thank you again. not getting much work done today, but doing some research on what my rights are and trying to get a plan in place. I know everyone has said to leave now, but I really feel like I need to have everything in place, at least know my rights and have a plan - hopefully if Womens Aid reply I can get them to put me in touch with a solicitor

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Lostmummy123 · 21/12/2017 12:19

Does anyone know where I can get free legal advice other than Womens Aid?

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Tinselistacky · 21/12/2017 12:30

Most solicitors do a free 30 mins.Email your situation to a couple of local ones, they will ring you back and if they can, will offer an initial free appointment. Good luck.

funkyzebra · 21/12/2017 12:32

My uni had a free legal advice centre where members of the public could ask for advice. It was given by law students but any advice was checked by a solicitor.
I'm sure more knowledgable people will have more advice for you.

GoblinDinosaur · 21/12/2017 12:37

I want you to google 'Domestic Abuse choking' and read what comes up.

Choking in a domestic violence situation is the NUMBER ONE red flag for a spouse who will go on to murder their partner. This is a documented thing, and a real, genuine thing to worry about. Couple this with him threatening to burn down your house, and his abuse of your children, you need to get out of that house now.

You have evidence of him being abusive, you have text messages with written verbal/emotional abuse and you have a police report from when he kicked your car. The house is whatever, you can work on that in the divorce, your LIFE is not something you can gamble on.

This is serious. He is dangerous to you and your kids. If you stay you are putting yourself and them at real, serious danger of harm.

Racmactac · 21/12/2017 12:53

Whereabouts in the uk are you? I might be able to recommend some solicitors for you.

Lostmummy123 · 21/12/2017 12:55

HELP!!! when people comment on this it is sending me emails! How do I stop this!

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GoblinDinosaur · 21/12/2017 13:07

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Lostmummy123 · 21/12/2017 13:13

thank you

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bibliomania · 21/12/2017 13:18

You absolutely are being seriously abused.

While I understand that you don't want to leave the house, the big advantage is that you won't necessarily have to say where you are, so he can't turn up at your door. In the face of someone as seriously abusive as he is, this is safer.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 21/12/2017 13:19

Would suggest you contact the Rights of Women charity also:-

rightsofwomen.org.uk/

QuiteLikely5 · 21/12/2017 13:46

Op

Your post nearly made me cry. Please go to your local police station and show them your post. The police can help keep you and your children safe.

This man is honestly dangerous and he should be dealt with accordingly.

I am not overreacting, you would not be over reacting.

You are entitled to benefits to top up your earnings. Even help with your childcare costs.

His bail conditions would prevent him coming anywhere near the home.

Please do not let this bastard get away with this for another hour.

He doesn’t deserve children and he sure as hell doesn’t deserve you.

Do not believe the nasty things he has said to you. You are a worthwhile woman.

Please please tell a friend or family member how your life really is.

It is not your shame to carry it is his.

I’ll be thinking of you and your darling children.

Be brave, be strong and be courageous. Don’t let this man break you. Flowers

QuiteLikely5 · 21/12/2017 13:47

The police can place a marker or alarm in your house.

LJ25 · 21/12/2017 16:19

Op please leave Sad you and your children need to be safe Thanks

redannie118 · 21/12/2017 19:13

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OnTheRise · 21/12/2017 20:46

I have emailed Women's Aid, and awaiting their reply. I just feel stupid, as Women's Aid makes me think of women who have actually been physically abused.

Re-read your first post. See all those times he grabbed you by the throat? That's physical abuse. Not only that, grabbing someone by the throat is a real red flag because people who do it are extremely likely to end up killing someone by choking them to death. It's a huge danger signal.

Get yourself somewhere safe. Do it as soon as you can.

pudding21 · 21/12/2017 20:57

Lostmummy: your post resonated with me. I put up with almost weekly behavior like this with my ex, 39 2 kids, 21 year relationship. Once the battery on one of our cars went flat that I happened to be driving at the time (we shared the cars). Anyway, he came to restart it, it was all my fault of course. He shouted, her swore, he made me feel like shit. That is just one episode. It escalated, it got worse. It took me ages to leave.

I finally left in Feb and I have not regretted it one tiny bit. Im thriving, kids are thriving. He is still miserable and at times abusive to me. I'm not going to lie, it hasn't been easy.

Things that helped me: posting on here, speaking to friends in real life, admitting we had issues instead of pretending and hoping my life wasn't like that. You go into a sort of denial, because you chose to have kids and marry this person. BUT and a massive BUT you do not deserve to be treated like that, your kids do not deserve to witness that. I had to emotionally detach for ages before I pluicked up the courage to leave.

Lundy Bancroft's book was a real eyeopener.

Good luck, if you don;t leave straight away, don't guilt yourself. Get your situation as best it can be, and don't look back.

By the way although my ex is miserable hes managed to start two (and fail) flings with women, he does take care of the kids, he can be civil.

pudding21 · 21/12/2017 21:00

And with the hands round the throat, its probably best to make absolutely sure he knows nothing of what you are thinking. Pack a bag with essentials, make sure you have your passports and copies of anything you need. My ex put his hands round my throat once, he never did it again but that threat was always there.

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