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The night my husband left me and my horse died on my roof - hold my hand please!

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Trifleisyummy · 18/12/2017 08:48

I've been lurking on here for a while, reading relationship threads that make me realise how dysfunctional mine is and that I need to pluck up the courage to leave.

Husband is not very nice, verbally abusive, a bit narcissistic and doesn't work other than odd-jobs for cash in hand when it's offered. He is a fabulous dad to our daughter (nearly one and a half) but very opinionated as to how we bring her up - as in we do it his way. He has a daughter from a previous relationship who he currently doesn't speak to.

Problem is I love him and am a bit scared of dealing with life on my own - he's very good at making me feel inadequate. He's got a bit of an alcohol problem too, his dad is an alcoholic and although I wouldn't say husband is, he's heading that way maybe?

Day before yesterday things came to a head - we live in southern Europe and one of our horses was I'll - in the morning he fed them and told me so I said in would call the vet. He then went out to help a friend paint their house, I stayed at home with baby to wait for the vet, in the meantime I wanted to give her some painkillers so asked him to get some from town, which he did and dropped them off. I told him I thought our horse was very ill and wasn't going to make it, he decided to go back to his friends to watch the football.

Vet finally arrived at 5pm, told me horse wasn't going to survive but he didn't have the meds to put her down then so I was to move her to somewhere flat and accessible (logistics - to get a truck or digger in). When husband came home at 7pm we tried to move the horse but only got her halfway to where we needed to be, and left her on our drive above the house (house is built into a hill so the driveway butts onto our flat roof, if that makes sense).

Went inside, he raged and told me I should have moved her earlier and am incapable of making decisions, bringing up other instances just to make his point. Then moved onto how I am a rubbish mum (ongoing argument - I also think I am rubbish sometimes, but that could be a whole other thread).

Massive clatter from the roof, I run outside to find the horse has stumbled, fallen, or something and is ON THE ROOF. Trying to get her up, he comes and helps but we end up arguing, I can't even remember what about, he's calling me a stupid useless bitch, or words to that effect. I ask him to focus on helping the horse. He storms off, comes back outside with a rucksack of things, tells me he's said goodbye to our daughter (she's slept through all this) and walks off.

A friend came to help, while we waited for the vet, although the horse ended up dying on the roof before he could get here. Husband has walked off before, always comes back in the morning. After sorting out the horse in the morning, I took daughter to a friends house for a few hours, took both sets of keys for the house but left his phone outside.

Oh goodness this is turning into an essay, sorry.

He came home, suspected broken ankle and been at the medical centre. I ask him to leave, he blanks me and takes painkillers before going to bed. I decided to pack a few things and leave with our daughter, stay the night at a friend's house rather than have an argument when he woke up. And I don't want to stay in the house with him.

I rang him this morning (to see if I needed to come and feed the horses) he said they're done and when was I bringing our daughter home. So now I don't know what to do. I know I shouldn't go back to him, and need to keep my resolve.

Please tell me this relationship is not normal?! Any advice for how to deal with him? Thank you.

xx

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laudanum · 18/12/2017 08:55

Frankly, i think you need to pack some things, take your baby, and get the hell out of there. Why on Earth is he considered a fantastic dad when he treats you so badly? That isn't synonymous with good parenting.

The way that poor horse has been treated is also fucking abysmal. It's last moments of life were being hoisted about to eventually die on a roof? Shock

KatharinaRosalie · 18/12/2017 08:57

It really isnt normal, and you sound very capable - just look how you handled all this while he fucked off and left you to it.

A man who treats the mother of his child with such contempt really can't be a good dad. He's teaching your DD that's what relationships are like.

Trifleisyummy · 18/12/2017 09:52

Laudanum - I totally agree, the poor horse didn't have a great ending and the guilt of that is something that will stay with me forever. I honestly didn't have much choice but to move her, but she was never hoisted anywhere and was treated with compassion.

I suppose I'm justifying things by saying he's a good dad, this is all a lot to get my head around. But you're right the way he treats me isn't synonymous at all with good parenting when I look at it from a subjective point of view but at the moment everything is clouded with emotions.

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Trifleisyummy · 18/12/2017 09:56

Katharina - thank you.Deep down I know it's not normal and you've hit the nail on the head - what I'm worried about most is the effect our relationship will have on our daughter if this carries on any longer.

I'm hoping he will move out soon and I can go home 😞

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pallasathena · 18/12/2017 09:59

Your self esteem is in tatters because of him. He's nothing but a drain on your resources, financial, emotional, physical and he's a classic control freak who freaks out and abuses you when he can't have his own way.
Why are you with someone like this? This isn't love....its fear of the unknown.
You are a clever, kind, compassionate, capable, resourceful and successful person who is a role model for your young daughter and as someone up-thread rightly said, you're modelling behaviour to her that becomes generational.
You need a fresh start just you and your child. And quite simply, you deserve better. Much better.

Kualabear · 18/12/2017 09:59

How the hell is he a good dad when he has a daughter he doesn't speak to? Never mind how he treats you. Hopefully you will get the perspective on here that you have been conditioned not to have.

FizzyGreenWater · 18/12/2017 11:28

He is a fabulous dad to our daughter (nearly one and a half) but very opinionated as to how we bring her up - as in we do it his way. He has a daughter from a previous relationship who he currently doesn't speak to.

  • He is not ever going to be a fabulous dad. He's going to be the worst kind of father figure possible to your little girl - you can be quite, quite certain of that.

What he is at the moment is enchanted with the idea of a lovely baby who he can cuddle, it doesn't answer back, and he can use it as yet another prop to illustrate how brilliant he is (doting daddy) versus how shit you are (do everything my way my way I love her I'm the best I'm the boss).

As soon as your DD grows bigger and starts doing things he doesn't like, he will treat her as he treats you and everyone else. He will be shouty, angry, judgmental and unfair to her, because that's who he is. Presumably the kind of attitude that led to him being ok with not even being in contact with his older DD.

He is not a good dad and he will not ever be a good dad.

It sounds absolutely great that he is gone, I suggest you make sure you can get away from him permanently - and don't ever look at his superficial cuddling and playing with a baby he sees as just a possession and think 'He's a great dad, I should stay for DD'.

Get away from him for her sake too.

ZigZagandDustin · 18/12/2017 11:31

He's not a good dad. Are you going to let her think it's normal for a man to call his partner a stupid bitch? She'll see and hear that within the year.

CousinKrispy · 18/12/2017 12:20

I'm sorry about your horse, that must have been upsetting. You did your best under the circumstances.

Your husband is definitely not normal/emotionally healthy and will probably never change. Getting away from him, and getting your daughter away from him, will improve life for the two of you so much.

What other sources of support do you have? Have you called Women's Aid? Can you talk with a solicitor about your options? Have you got any family and friends you can turn to? Reach out as much as you can.

It is hard as hell to develop the confidence to leave an abusive partner. Keep trying and you will get there!

NerudaIsHeaven · 18/12/2017 12:22

He is a fabulous dad to our daughter

No he isn't. Fabulous dads don't abuse their children's mothers.

VivaLeBeaver · 18/12/2017 12:22

I had similar but with a sheep. I suspect it’s easier to get a dead sheep off the roof than a horse. Is your dh going to help remove the horse? If not you should pack his bags!

Trifleisyummy · 18/12/2017 13:38

@pallasathena - that is really eloquently put. Your message made me cry because it's so succinct, what I have been trying and failing to get straight in my own head. I am starting to think I do deserve better, and my daughter absolutely does. So it's up to me to make changes so we get that. One step at a time today!

@Kualabear - exactly. I know that in my heart of hearts. I mean what if something happened to me and then he did the same to our daughter. That's exactly why I posted on here, to try and get some fresh and unbiased perspectives and yes, I have been conditioned not to question his motives or decisions.

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Trifleisyummy · 18/12/2017 13:42

@FizzyGreenWater - spot on. You're right that he uses our daughter to highlight my inadequacies, whilst making himself look good (to me).

And I do not want my daughter to be in the situation you describe as she gets older, which unfortunately is what has happened, I think, with his older daughter. I think I need to have a frank conversation with her about him once the dust has settled.

Unfortunately he hasn't gone yet, he is still at our house and my daughter and I have gone to stay at a friend's. But I am working on getting him to move out, and then at least we can be at home and figure out where to go from here.

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Trifleisyummy · 18/12/2017 13:44

@ZigZagandDustin - you're right, and that's what I'm afraid of too, that she will think that verbal abuse is normal. And she will hear it, because he won't change.

The trouble is though that he's conditioned me into thinking he is fabulous and I am inadequate. It's literally only yesterday and today that I am starting to realise he might be wrong.

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ultrareal · 18/12/2017 13:44

Just wanted to say, OP I really feel for you, what a horrendous ordeal.
I have horses and my husband dotes on them, I can guarantee if one of them was so ill he'd be running round looking after everything else so I could be there with out the whole time.

You've had a horrific day/night and you needed support, a hug and a shoulder to cry on. Instead it sounds like you got nothing but abuse and then abandoned. My heart goes out to you. But please know this is not normal, acceptable behaviour or great parenting. You deserve so much better.

ultrareal · 18/12/2017 13:46

PS in this case it sounds like it was the very who let your horse down, not you, so please don't beat yourself up about that.

Trifleisyummy · 18/12/2017 13:52

@CousinKrispy - it is hard as hell, I am trying to stay strong and not break my resolve.

I don't think he will change either, so if I'm not prepared to live like that then I need to make changes, which I am trying to do!

I'm not sure if there is women's aid in my country, but I am a UK citizen so could maybe try and get some advice online. I will try that later, thanks for the suggestion.

I have a great bunch of mates both here and in the UK, who are being awesome. Every time we have had problems before I have sort of swept it under the carpet, but this time I am telling everyone and that makes it more real (and scary).

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Trifleisyummy · 18/12/2017 13:54

@NerudaIsHeaven - again you're right. Not modelling what a healthy relationship looks like for our daughter, who will soon be old enough to pick up on everything.

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Trifleisyummy · 18/12/2017 13:59

@VivaLeBeaver - correct. It was difficult. But all done now. And no, the husband was not around to help with that at all. I got it sorted yesterday morning while he was still AWOL.

@ultrareal - thank you, I appreciate that.

Yes, the vet was pretty useless tbh. He's not one I normally use, but my usual vet was out of town and whilst she was giving me advice over the phone, there wasn't much else she could do. It was horrid and I can't stop thinking about my poor horse.

Normally my husband dotes on ours too. I can't explain his behaviour really.

I am starting to feel like we do deserve better, and if I go back then neither of us (me and daughter) will be getting it.

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PotatoesGunnaPotate · 18/12/2017 14:05

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I'm so sorry about the situation you are in, you deserve better. What kind of man leaves a dying horse on a roof!! Angry How dare he call you a rubbish mother when he doesn't even speak to his other child that he has! Also I don't see why painting a friends house was more important than dealing with your horse, he should of been home to support you! It's not easy dealing with a loss of a pet, especially when you know it's dying. It's not like it all of a sudden died! As for him calling you a useless bitch... I would of slapped him right across the face! No respect! He sounds like a bad tempered ass. Stay at your friends for a while, or at a family members. Show him what he's missing. Not like he will change the way he is anyway but make him suffer! You deserve better!

turdconsultant · 18/12/2017 14:40

What kind of man leaves a dying horse on a roof!

I'm dying here, I'll try and keep off the roof though.

Hissy · 18/12/2017 16:09

Husband is not very nice, - THIS IS ENOUGH REASON TO END IT
verbally abusive, a bit narcissistic - THIS IS WHY YOU SHOULD END IT

doesn't work other than odd-jobs for cash in hand when it's offered. - WHAT A WASTE OF SPACE

He is a fabulous dad to our daughter (nearly one and a half) but very opinionated as to how we bring her up - as in we do it his way. THIS IS A VERY SHIT DAD

He has a daughter from a previous relationship who he currently doesn't speak to. - YES.... WONDER WHY? WOULD THAT BE BECAUSE HE'S A SHIT DAD?

  • he's very good at making me feel inadequate. - BECAUSE HES ABUSIVE AND A SHIT HUMAN BEING

He's got a bit of an alcohol problem too, his dad is an alcoholic and although I wouldn't say husband is, he's heading that way maybe? - FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, SHALL WE SEND IN A HELICOPTER OR SWOT TEAM AND GET YOU OUTTA THERE? (((HUG))) HE'S AWFUL!

he's calling me a stupid useless bitch, or words to that effect. - PLEASE DON'T PUT UP WITH THIS EVER

I know I shouldn't go back to him, and need to keep my resolve. STAY AWAY FROM HIM, MAKE SURE YOUR DD IS KEPT AWAY FROM HIM AND HIS POISONOUS BEHAVIOUR TOO

Please tell me this relationship is not normal?! - NO, NOT AT ALL NORMAL, YOU ARE IN A SERIOUSLY ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP. GET OUT NOW.

Any advice for how to deal with him? DON'T. DON'T DEAL WITH HIM, GET RID OF HIM

Trifleisyummy · 18/12/2017 20:02

@PotatoesGunnaPotate - I am currently with a very good friend. She is making me lots of cups of tea, her daughter is cuddling my daughter and I feel safe. Time to re-assess. And I'm starting to think I do deserve better.

And no, goodness knows why he decided to paint the friend's house, and I rang him to tell him I thought our horse was dying, I know her well enough to be able to tell that, and he still didn't come home.

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Trifleisyummy · 18/12/2017 20:04

@turdconsultant - indeed. My roof has seen enough. Thank goodness it is (was?) strong enough. Better than the kitchen, which was what was below us.

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Trifleisyummy · 18/12/2017 20:07

@Hissy - thank you! This made me actually laugh out loud, rather than burst into tears, which is an achievement.

I should print this out and stick it to my forehead or something. The CAPS helped tremendously.

I would dearly love a helicopter, but only if it is big enough to accommodate me, my daughter and all the animals. I'm not sure there is one that big though, so I will try my best to put my big girl pants on and come out the other side of this mess.

I need gin.

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