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How do we sort this?

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SadAndFedUp111 · 17/12/2017 08:24

I really need advice.

Been married 28 years, met quite young, whirlwind romance and married within 7 months of meeting. Then had 2 DD soon after.
So we obviously didn’t know each other properly, which I know is ridiculous, but we always say how lucky we are that we have a happy marriage. We do love each other very much.
But I’m not happy. I found out very quickly that he is a workaholic, because of his childhood - family farm, made to work from aged 6, yes proper work that a grown up should be doing. He’s had it drummed into him that work always comes first, he worked every single holiday and weekend throughout his childhood. So I saw this has had a huge effect in him emotionally. Thrighout our marriage I’ve had to battle to get him be involved in family life. Because he didn’t have a “proper” childhood he didn’t know how to be a dad, how to play, have fun etc. Any “free time” he has he gets anxious beforehand and then makes everyone around him start to worry. Every single holiday, family event etc throughout our marriage has been affected by this. Once he’s there and relaxed he will enjoy it, but it’s all such a fucking palaver!!

He has no idea how to handle anything emotional. He just thinks it’s best to leave the person to it and walks out of the room.

So last night, 10 mins before meeting friends fir dinner, ((we’d had all the “I don’t want to go” throughout the day) my mum phoned to say my sister has been rushed to hospital with a suspected blood clot on her lung. I’m obviously upset. He walks out the room, I text my BIL and then go to find when he is. He’s on his phone, replying to work emails, says to me “you look gorgeous” I rely that I don’t feel like it, “why?” He replies Hmm. Well because I’ve just been told my sister is ill and in hospital. He apologises profusely, asks if I want him to do anything (just don’t be such a dick, maybe). we get in the car and he starts talking about work, I go fucking ballistic and tell him what a emotionally stunted, selfish arse he is. He again apologised says he’s a complete dick etc. BUT this is third time in 2 weeks when I’ve exploded because he’s been di utterly thoughtless. I’ve had enough, I’m fed up with feeling so emotionally lonely, of him working all hours. (He’s not farming anymore, but he still works farming hours, awakes around 4.30 and working flat out until around 7).

He has been having therapy for around 6 years because we nearly split up then, his temper was awful and I’d had enough. He’s stating to talk about his childhood recently and it’s brought up so much awful stuff about how he was treated and what he was exposed to. Therapist said there would be social service involvement if it happened today. But he’s never ever talked about our marriage other than to say he loves me to bits and how lucky he is to have me and the girls (who are in their twenties and live away from home now). They both think he’s a workaholic and stress out, but absolutely love him to bits.

I’m just stuck at what to say to him, I used to let things go but I can’t anymore, I’m menopausal and I know my capacity for patience is wearing thin. I know I’ve started to really shout at him, which he hates. I want us to have a happy marriage but I don’t know where to start.

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SadAndFedUp111 · 17/12/2017 08:26

Please excuse typos.

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bluescreen · 17/12/2017 10:24

Oh, you poor love! Such a difficult, worrying time for you. And your DH with his traumatic childhood understandably slow on the emotional uptake. Have you tried just telling him you need a hug because you're so upset about your sister, on top of finding menopause tough? And then telling him what else you need? Sometimes emotionally clueless people just need to be told. But you will know him best.

People wiser than me will be along soon with advice, but meantime, here's a handhold.

RandomMess · 17/12/2017 10:40

I would ask about doing some therapy together to find a way of you learning how to support each other. He may need you to tell him directly "I need a cuddle and reassurance". You need help to reassure him that having a holiday is ok - "stop judging yourself with your parents voice, what matters to me your wife is that we spend this time together"

Thanks
SadAndFedUp111 · 17/12/2017 13:17

Thank you so much, both of you, for your replies. I'm not good at telling him what I want, so I think you're both onto something with that.

We have had a long talk. He's apologised profusely yet again but said he realises that's not enough. He says he cannot believe how he behaved last night and will talk to his therapist about it all.

We are both very stressed at the moment. Dh's brother had a major stroke in Oct and is still in hospital, they live 2 hours away but we've been going up to help with dc and with BILs business, as well as running our own. But I think that's why I was so upset last night. I've done so much for BIL and his family the last few months and when I heard about my sister I just wanted dh to support me.

Anyway I will see how he gets on with his therapist then suggest we go and see someone together about communicating well with each other.

Thank you again!

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RandomMess · 17/12/2017 13:27

It is really hard to change after a long time - that's both of you!!

I often don't really know what I want/need - what I want is DH to instinctively know how to support me, it's never going to happen here Grin

Joysmum · 17/12/2017 13:30

I agree with Random as this is what I need to do with my dh. It’s not that he doesn’t care, just that we handle things differently and his preference is to bury his head in the sand, ergo if I have an issue he tries to distract me away from it rather than talking it through in case it upsets me 🙄

bluescreen · 17/12/2017 14:40

Although this is only one of the things you're having to face at the moment: in case it's helpful, there's a whole MN Talk Topic on menopause. (51 pages of thread titles!)
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/menopause

Flowers
Nicecuppatea21 · 17/12/2017 14:55

Do you have any time to yourself? The kids are reared and now you should focus on yourself. You have no doubt given everything to your family over the years.

I think you need to transition from mum always sorting this out for everyone to an individual who is herself again.

If you focus on yourself and be selfish with your time it might take the focus off his idiosyncrasies/problems.

Take up a hobby, go on mini breaks with your hubby. That might be easier and prevent him from stressing about 1 or 2 weeks away from the business.

Make this your time, focus on yourself and do things to make YOU happy.

If he gets angry again makes it very clear that you will seek legal advice. That should cop him on a bit. Good luck

SadAndFedUp111 · 17/12/2017 20:17

Random and Joy it's good to hear I'm not the only one with a H like this. I've realised that if this happens again I need to calmily ask him why he's behaving like a twat Xmas Grin instead of shouting about it.

Thanks for the link blue I'm going to have a good read!

Nicecup I do have time for myself now the dds are at uni, but I know what you mean about focusing on myself. I was a SAHM Mum for many years as dh was such a workaholic I wanted there to be one parent around for them, so I did sacrifice a lot.
I need to start doing things I love again.

Thanks for all your fab advice Flowers

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Joysmum · 17/12/2017 20:27

I think the key thing is in knowing the difference between whether they are emotionally constipated (I love that term Grin ) or whether they know and can’t be arsed or are doing something deliberately.

Mine loves me to bits but could do with some Imodium 😂

SadAndFedUp111 · 17/12/2017 20:33

Oh Joy I love that phrase "emotionally constipated" and am going to keep it in mind! Dh is definitely that variety.

I may just get some Imodium and whip it out when he's being a prat. I won't have to say a word, I'll just wave around The Imodium.😂

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