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What do I do?

28 replies

my95 · 26/11/2017 15:14

Hi all,

Would like some advice on my situation please.

Met this girl at a coaching session I run, about 4 months ago. Coached her once a month for 3 months as a group and asked her about herself and she asked the same etc each session. Soon as I saw her I was attracted to her, and even more so when I got to know her. Third time I coached her I had thought by then she wasn’t interested as was always really shy, so I didn’t say much, told her I was buying a new car last month and she asked in that third session if I had got it yet, which I did. After the coaching we walked out the sports centre and she started walking past her car to mine, so we chatted, and were both going to Tesco for shopping so went together. We had a game of squash two mornings later, then had a lovely meal/date afterwards. All was good from both sides, but then she told me she only wanted to see me once a week about 2 weeks in (going from 5 nights a week seeing each other) so I panicked and she wasn’t a fan of that, so we agreed on 2/3, however we saw each other in local places most nights so it was 5 nights we saw each other (however she never said anything again about this). Went on a few more dates to various places – Whitby, Seahouses etc which we both really loved spending time together. When I said I couldn’t do 1 night a week, she said it was maybe best to stay friends, so I panicked again. Went over to hers the next night to talk about it and persuaded her against the friends thing (she didn’t like and wasn’t used to loads of attention via text on a daily basis/dates/seeing someone 5 nights a week which put her off).

Bit about her past – she was with a guy for a year and got cheated on 4 times. Told me this was a month before we started dating and at first I thought she was over it – god I was wrong (she told me it was only a week before I started seeing her the night we split off, but said she didn’t want to tell me incase I thought she was using me as a rebound – not the case. All seemed well, we went out in town on the Saturday night, then up to Kielder for the day on the Sunday. We got back to hers and she fell flat out asleep on me, woke up, and then fell asleep again, so carried her up to bed. She woke up about 20 mins later while I was half asleep next to her then burst out crying for 30 mins straight (never seen someone cry so bad). So I asked what was up, she wouldn’t tell me, so gave her my phone and she wrote it down, then couldn’t let me see so told me. She said she still isn’t over the feelings for her ex and it wouldn’t be fair to still see me when my feelings would get stronger whereas hers wouldn’t. She also told me she hasn’t got that full romantic spark for me, even though she tried so hard to feel it, but says part of the reason she can’t is what happened with her ex. She wrote on my phone – ‘I like you but just don’t think I can be fully with you. I feel like I’m still heartbroken and I’ve tried to let that go so many times and can’t seem to. It’s frustrating me and making me feel unhappy because I know you like me a lot and I don’t want to hurt you in the slightest. I try to forget how I’m feeling and focus solely on you but I can’t’. So tried to persuade her again, but she couldn’t be, so I left and knew that was the end as she was definite on her decision.

Haven’t spoke to her for a week now which was via text (met her 4 months ago, dating for 1 month, last saw her at coaching 2 Fridays ago). When I saw her I spoke to her about how her day went and things were with her just as a friendly chat. Then asked how she was feeling about us since that night, and she went ‘fine’ which upset me but maybe she was covering herself up? We both said that if either of us saw anyone else it wouldn’t be nice, she said it would feel ‘weird’ but I said it would only feel like that if you still have feelings for someone, and she disagreed. I asked her what put her off me – she said I know you’re a fit lad and talk to quite a few girls but I can’t deal with that, so I said ‘as friends yes, I’m not looking to pursue anything with them ever, they help give me advice on relationship things (I know her ex chatted to other girls and she knew that). Next thing she said was ‘when you send topless photos you could be sending them to anyone’. Told her ‘you know how much I like you, and that spending 5 nights a week with you on top of full time work etc (we spend most of the weekends together and I slept over on both nights generally and sometimes through the week). I have no time to see anyone else’. Just seems obvious that she is really hurt/ paranoid still and struggles to trust from her previous relationship however she said she does trust me, which I can’t believe after hearing those two things. It hurts me to look back at all the photos we took together, seeing her snapchat stories and things on Facebook, but I can’t let them go. I even still haven’t sorted the bag of my stuff that I have left at hers over the month we saw each other as it brings back memories.

This girl is everything I want long term, has a good job/future, nice house, genuinely lovely caring person (would make tea for me all the time which I find very cute – even if we just met at the sports centre and went back to hers). She even said ‘we are too much like a couple’ which we were, however we were only dating, so I know she isn’t anywhere near ready for a relationship, even though she told me that when we first started dating, and it didn’t bother me as I would be happy to date her for a year without the tag.

I know she still likes me but just won’t see me again I don’t think as she thinks I can do better and thinks it’s unfair on me since she hasn’t got the full spark. I think she is doing fine by herself as we speak. However I have been really down since. I think giving it space and time may be the best option I have, as she knows how I feel about her, but I’m not sure which is why I would like some advice with all of this please?

It hurts massively to know she likes me, but can’t see me and probably won’t again in that way because of how she is feeling, if she closed the door and said ‘I don’t like you’ then I would take it on the chin, but I know she will always like me as she said she ‘loves/d spending time with me’ etc.
Complex situation but maybe someone can summarise the best thing to do/how she feels etc.

Ask away if you need any more information, I know it is all very muddled up however this is really important to me and I’m just too busy typing away. She is 25 and I’m 22 and we live within a 5 min drive of each other – she has her own place whereas I don’t (living with family as wanted a nice car for a few years first).

We have agreed to stay as friends for the moment, i'm planning on not contacting her i.e. giving her space, however it is her birthday on the 6th so i'm going to drop her a birthday card by when she isn't in, with a bit of humour in, and i'm sure she will message me saying at least a thank you.

I've been on dates with other girls since and seen an ex for something casual (and hinted I had been seeing others to her using a snapchat story to have her guess that I am/see how she reacts - she hasnt reacted at all but views all my stories), however in the cinema the other night, I couldn't help but think and be sad about the cute times we had on one of our first dates at the cinema, and I felt bad as I was there with someone else - just cant get over her as she honestly means the world to me and I just want it to work out sometime in the future)

Thank you so much!
Matt.

OP posts:
JollyGiraffe · 26/11/2017 15:15

A girl??

Or a woman?

KnockMeDown · 26/11/2017 15:28

I think you need to back off. She is not that in to you. She has been telling you from the start that she is not as keen as you, and you have probably scared her off even more with your 'panicking ' Shock WTF is that even about?

Even the length of your post indicates that you are way too obsessed.

AtrociousCircumstance · 26/11/2017 15:32

Just listen to what she has told you. You don’t need need any more information. Walk away.

I know it’s hard when you’re invested but do yourself a favour and face reality.

Acrosstheuniverse123 · 26/11/2017 15:33

Chill out , please! i think you need to take some time out of this relationship and build other things into your life. You are far too invested in this woman and overly intense. It exhausts me just reading about it.

SparklyMagpie · 26/11/2017 15:33

Fucking hell OP back away! Leave her alone

TheNaze73 · 26/11/2017 15:35

Leave her well be.

Take a step back in the future & stop chasing

Mince314 · 26/11/2017 15:41

Dont give her a bd card.

If you're so keen and she's decided you're not for her then dropping a real paper card in to her house wont help...

Maybe a week after her birthday text her to ask if she had a good birthday. Knowing that you knew it was her b'day but didnt do anything will give her breathing space to decide if she wsnts to be in contact again or not.

CaptainMarvelDanvers · 26/11/2017 15:43

It sounds like she has tried to let you down gently but you’re ignoring it because she hasn’t flat out said “I don’t like you”. Take the hint and leave her alone, most people won’t be brutally honest until they are pushed to the breaking point as they don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings.

pictish · 26/11/2017 15:44

You're too intense and full on. With the best of intentions, stop that shit and chill out.

pictish · 26/11/2017 15:58

And yes...why would you 'panic' when she makes clear that she doesn't want to spend every spare moment together? Five nights a week is way overboard for a new relationship...you can't force these things and there's no need for panic. I'd have been completely put off by your panic but unlike her I would have ditched you straight out.
She's letting you down gently because you're too much.

happypoobum · 26/11/2017 16:01

Yes, back off, and stop hitting on women who are your clients. It's bloody unprofessional!

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 26/11/2017 16:07

You sound completely infatuated to the point of creepiness.
She's tried her best to be kind to you but she's made her feelings clear. You can't keep on just because you're convinced she's Ms Right.

Joysmum · 26/11/2017 16:10

She’s tried to tell you her needs, you keep pushing her to something different.

Back of, let her come to you if she wants to.

Aminuts23 · 26/11/2017 16:13

Just leave her alone. She doesn’t want to be with you, she’s told you that. You come across a bit stalky! If someone I’d been seeing a month wanted to spend 5 nights a week with me I’d send them packing. You sound desperate and needy, very very unattractive qualities in a new partner. If I was her I’d be running for the hills

Pandoraphile · 26/11/2017 16:16

You're infatuated with her. She doesn't want to date you. Your only chance of something maybe happening in the future is if you back off completely and see if she comes back to you.

Get a grip and some self-respect.

WhooooAmI24601 · 26/11/2017 16:18

If you have to persuade someone to be near/with you, you need to walk away.

my95 · 26/11/2017 16:46

Wow some lovely responses here....

Thanks to all those that were actually respectful.

OP posts:
Mince314 · 26/11/2017 16:51

It's telling that you see disrespect here Confused

Joysmum · 26/11/2017 16:55

Whether you perceive all the responses as respectful or not, all are saying the same thing which is to respect her wishes and stop persuading her she’s wrong because that’s what you want.

PelvicFloorClenchReminder · 26/11/2017 17:01

It's generally considered 'not OK' when someone says they just want to be friends, to turn up at their home and persuade them otherwise. I think you need to take a few steps back. And start calling women women. If she is a girl, there is a much larger problem here.

Annelind · 26/11/2017 17:04

This woman has been very nicely telling you to back off and leave her alone - so with the utmost respect, FUCKING LEAVE HER ALONE!

CaptainMarvelDanvers · 26/11/2017 17:30

*my29”

Society expects women to be less assertative hence the reason why this girl has probably tried to tell you softly that she’s not interested and also why you find the honest and blunt answers given to you as disrespectful.

If she had done what what other posters have said to you, you would have considered her a bitch. She has instead tried the softly softly approach and you have just ignored it.

OnTheRise · 26/11/2017 19:28

She's told you a few times that she doesn't think you have a future together. That's all you need to know.

If I'd told someone that and they'd repeatedly tried to persuade me to change my mind I'd feel threatened and disrespected. I certainly wouldn't want to see them again. I'd want to run away.

SparklyMagpie · 26/11/2017 19:49

Oh dear lord

And with your recent update, i'm out

Worriedrose · 26/11/2017 20:20

Snap chat yourself a new girl Hmm
Sometimes people aren't that keen on other people.
End of the story

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