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How do I talk to my mother?

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SkaPunkPrincess · 26/11/2017 08:36

ok, so il try not to ramble and keep things simple. Il also try paragraph but I find formatting a bit difficult on this app.

Two weeks ago now I fell out with my mum.
The fallout was over her not babysitting for me whilst I did a few hours overtime one morning but she lied about it. She told me she was busy then contacted me the day before to see if I was in for a visit in the middle of the time I could have been working.
I'm ashamed to say I lost it a bit and said something unkind and told her to contact me when she was going to be less selfish.

This particular incident is simply a red herring for bigger issues.

When I was 13 my dad had an affair. She chucked him out for 6 months during which time she spent most of her time drunk and neglecting me and my younger brother. Luckily I was a capable young girl and looked after all of us cooking and keeping on top of the washing ect. I had counselling through school during this time as a went a bit nuts and became badly behaved at school.

She took him back. Over the next 10 years they were both emotionally and my mother occasionally physically abusive towards me. My dad is an alcoholic and used to call me some awful things when he was drunk and she used to sit there and smirk.
I was an arsey teenager but my natural instinct has always been to fight back and be resilient so I feel that I gave back as good as I got.

(since I moved out at 18, mine and my dad's relationship has been a much much healthier one- especially now he is drinking less and we were always close when I was a small child)

After these 10 years past he did it again. This time Mum divorced my Dad. They lived together for another two years before mum put the house up for sale and as soon as that happened Dad over out.
Mum bought a new house and moved in but has never moved on in the 8 years since she divorced my Dad.
I feel that she resents my good marriage and home life and that I still have a relationship with my dad.
She has put on more and more weight to the point she is now having mobility issues because of it and she makes nasty comments constantly towards me (DH had to point this out as I must be so used to it I don't really notice)

She has issue with the fact I no longer speak to my Brother. He was physically abusive when we were young and has always had anger and control issues. (threatened to get DH killed when we first met for example as he considered my first husband - who I had been divorced from for a year his 'mate')
I cut independant contact with him when he attacked me and broke my laptop when I was 6 months pregnant with DC1. I then went completely NC with him when he asked my 2.5 year old DC1 one Christmas time if he was fucking stupid. I ask my mother if she thinks it's right for me to put up with this or risk my children's safety around him whenever she starts and all she says is 'well no, but this isn't how I thought it would be'

She takes any opportunity she can to talk about what a bastard my dad is/was. She does not like the fact that my eldest DC is now spending one on one time with my Dad occasionally.
I do not want to continue to hear her badmouthing my Dad. I have had it now for almost 20 years and it is becoming extremely wearing and is resulting in me having little to no sympathy for her situation or feelings on the matter. She is becoming bitter and cold and the only people she shows any affection for are my Brother and her grandchildren (not quite so much my DC2 though as he wasn't the girl she wanted 😒)
I feel that she is depressed. She refuses to aknowledge this and won't see a Dr or therapist. She just accuses me of trying to upset her when I have mentioned this in the past.

She never goes anywhere or does anything with anyone. just work home work home over and over d spends her days sleeping at weekends I try to invite her out whenever I can but if it involves taking the bus or walking anywhere it's always an instant no. She won't even come to the park across her road with the kids because it involves walking 100m 😕.

I am just sick of walking on eggshells around her or listening to her be miserable and nasty an judgy about me and others.

I feel that she only does things for others if there is something I it for her. We are struggling money wise atm which is why I got cross when she lied about being able to watch the kids for me. She never had to make ends meet whilst juggling childcare as she was a SAHM for 13 years.

I hardly ever ask for any help with anything I am very independent and have always paid back money ect if borrowed so I don't feel like I take the piss at all.

sorry this is long and complicated and I still dont feel like iv included everything I feel or all the issues I am having with her.

Any suggestions on how to communicate all this to my mother and employ her to seek help appreciated.
I really do love and care about her but I can't do this anymore.
if tried to be factual in my post as opposed to emotional.

Thank you for reading.

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Nanny0gg · 08/12/2017 21:58

I'm sorry for what you've been through, but I can see that it's hard for your mum to move on (as a child you don't actually know the full story of what she had to deal with).

It's all very lovely that your dad has moved on and 'lives in the now', but perhaps that's considerably easier for him to do that than your mum.

I think you need to find a counsellor to help you deal with everything. It may be that you'll have to accept that your mum is how she is and whether you stay in contact is up to you. Or it may help you see where she is coming from.

I do think some of your anger is misdirected.

SkaPunkPrincess · 10/12/2017 10:21

A Christmas card arrived this morning for the kids.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 10/12/2017 10:35

Shred it, do not give it any power. She was not a good parent to you when you were growing up and she is a crap example of a grandmother to your DC now. Do not subject them to her.

fannyanddick · 10/12/2017 22:05

If you do want a relationship with her, I think a letter could help to deliver a message but don't expect her to change and I wouldn't try to rely on her. She is fundamentally selfish and self involved.

You could write that you love her, the kids love her and you want a great relationship but that you find talking about the past really draining and upsetting. Also not to discuss your brother as it upsets you. Ask her to try to focus on now or the future.

Then when she starts stewing over something you can remind her of the letter and ask what she's having for dinner, reading, doing at work etc. I don't think trying to change her beyond this will have an impact.

TalkinBoutWhat · 11/12/2017 13:48

But nothing for you? Don't pass it on. How dare she try to circumvent you in this way. She shouldn't get to be the wonderful grandmother she wants to be unless she does some work in being a better mother first.

SkaPunkPrincess · 12/12/2017 20:46

No talkin no card for us. I know it's only a card but it feels very manipulative.

I honestly feel like I am at an empass right now. Either I contact her somehow or there's no going back. I feel quite panicky about this but I just REALLY don't want to apologise to her and be the one to hold out the olive branch.

Am I cutting off my nose to spite my face?

The kids haven't mentioned her for this entire time.

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TalkinBoutWhat · 14/12/2017 13:31

I don't think you're cutting off your nose to spite your face. SHE may well be though!

Be honest, would you ever treat your children the way she is treating you? I would guess not. That should tell you just how unreasonable she is being.

SkaPunkPrincess · 17/12/2017 18:08

I made a decision today. I dropped off a bunch of flowers and a Christmas card outside her door. (I still don't really want to speak to her tbh) So I have been the bigger person and offered the olive branch.

I wait to see what happens now. I am going to make sure that this doesn't just get brushed use the carpet though. I am going to have one last go at making things better between us if she wants it too.
If not I will extend polite courtesy to her until my grandad is no longer with us and then see how I feel.

Good Lord this is shit. I never foresaw my life being like this.

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