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I need my friend, but she's depressed

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WobbleHead · 21/11/2017 14:33

My closest friend and I have known each other for over 20 years. Both of us has changed a lot in that time but we still really get on, and we make each other laugh like nobody else.

Ever since I started a relationship 18 months ago, and especially since I have got engaged, she's been very distant. There are various personal issues in my life and work at the minute, and not being able to talk to her has made me feel enormously sad and lonely.

She's had a rough time with relationships, still really isn't over the last serious one that ended 2 years ago, and is increasingly obsessed with, and distressed by, the idea of not finding 'the one' and starting a family before it's too late (she's 34).

If our friendship group of women wants to arrange a meet-up, she will specify that she won't attend at all if people's partners also come. In a situation where there are lots of couples in the mix she feels like people are looking down on her for being single.

Because of where people and their partners live (causing travel/timing issues), that means we pretty much don't ever meet up, or we meet up without my closest friend. She rarely agrees to meet with me one on one any more (maybe once every few months).

It's all come to a head because, after trying to arrange a group Christmas get together to which she flatly refused to come, again, I gently pressed her whether we should talk about this issue - more than anything I wanted to be supportive and hated to see her hurting still after all this time.

She flew off the handle. She said she had the right to avoid things that make her unhappy, and this is just how things were going to be from now on, forever. And that I had obviously forgotten what it was like to be miserable. She seemed really angry with me, which really took me aback.

She's meant to be my only bridesmaid at my wedding next summer. I haven't really been able to do any girly wedding planning stuff because she's been so off about everything and I don't want to annoy her further. I just want us to be excited and have fun together Sad. I don't know where to go from here. At the moment I think she would be a lot happier to not have to play that role. But if I tell her now that she's excused from being maid of honour I think that would be the end of the relationship, no matter if my motivations were kind.

Any guidance on how to tackle this would be much appreciated. Even though I thought I knew her well, I obviously don't, otherwise I would have been more capable to help her than this. I may as well ask strangers on the internet!

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hollowtree · 21/11/2017 14:45

Depression is a dark mask indeed... it can make it really hard to be yourself because it is just so all consuming.

Your friend may be in a really lonely place and struggling to voice those thoughts and feelings to you, because you don't feel the way she does.

It is also very hard for people looking in to help or understand, it is hard for you to be shut out I know. I wouldn't revoke her opportunity for her to be your bridesmaid. The person she is will be delighted to enjoy your wedding with you, but if she is suffering with depression (and it does sound like she is) she will need professional help. That is something you can perhaps guide her to but it will be her responsibility to seek it and accept it.

Easier said than done. Depression is like a void, and most onlookers see it as of the individuals own making... but it really isn't. Imagine a room with a door only on the outside, you're wondering why she won't just open the door and let you in. Meanwhile she's looking for a way out of the room and can't find one.

But there is help available. I would recommend start with a talking therapy. Your friend is clearly distressed at being alone, if she does not work on the issues she is dealing with it will, sadly, make it harder for her to find someone.

You're being an amazing friend, well done for sticking by her. I think you have done all you can now. Gently suggest a talking therapy (maybe do some research and say another friend of yours attended sessions with them? Easy way to brooch the subject).

Meanwhile, enjoy your wedding planning! You can still enjoy the happiness in your life as well as supporting the lack of it in hers.

TheHeartOfTeFiti · 21/11/2017 14:46

I think you need to ask her now if she’s still going to your bridesmaid sounds like that could be a HUGE part of the issue. Also remind her that maybe if she came out she’d meet someone or someone might set her up.

WobbleHead · 21/11/2017 14:52

I'm actually seeing a therapist myself for the last few months because my own issues had become so unmanageable, and when chatting via text I tell her about how I've found the experience, etc. One of our mutual friends is also very positive and open about her experience of therapy to help with depression.

My friend as far as I know has paid for Skype 'emergency' therapy sessions a few times when she has been at her lowest points (fantasising about death, etc.), but she isn't keen on taking on a steadier programme of talking therapy because she finds it very uncomfortable and destabilising. I agree that it would be the best course of action for her, but she would think I was being patronising if I said I thought she should see a therapist.

I guess I had expectations about the wedding panning being a chance to connect with the people I was closest to (my mum is a whole other story). I just feel really alone.

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Thinkingofausername1 · 21/11/2017 15:12

Depression is tricky. You don’t want to burden people, but at the same time you need people.
She has a right to remove herself from situations where she feels vulnerable or she feels will bring up issues. Especially if she is having therapy, the last thing anyone wants is to go on a night out to face people that you don’t want to see.

WobbleHead · 21/11/2017 15:35

I totally get that @Thinkingofausername1 but I feel this obsession with avoiding all situations with our other halves has gone on for ages (over a year?) and is having a big impact on our group. And I don't think it's doing her much good - it could even be making her feel even worse.

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WobbleHead · 21/11/2017 18:54

Some additional thoughts - should I try and insist on a conversation with her, so I make it really clear that we are thinking of her and trying to communicate and she’s not on her own in this? She’s avoided any conversations before.

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Thinkingofausername1 · 21/11/2017 21:35

Could one of the ‘other half’s’ come on to her or something? Seems odd for that long not to want to meet.

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