Anti social personality disorder

[californiabreeze]

Do you following sound as if they could fit?

• Treated admittedly quite badly by a person; proceeded to spend months ringing them and 'harrassing' them, doing things like arranging to view items they have for sale and then not showing up, to 'punish' them. Stops when threatened with police involvement.

• lies ALL the time. Lots and lots of lies, many harmless but baffling like saying birthday is in February not September.

• steals. Minor items but also items from friends.

• has been cruel to animals, has a nasty and vicious temper.

I might add others as I think about them.

Sounds more like a psychopath.

They are the same thing. ASPD is the more up to date term.
Run the person through the Hare checklist, sounds like they tick quite a few boxes.

Thanks ... that's quite scary.

What’s the point of doing your own ‘diagnosis’ on someone.

When you sense there is something badly wrong, it helps in some way to know what that might be

Two points.

1. It takes seriously qualified professionals to diagnose.
2. Whst would a diagnosis tell you? This person doesn't sound like someone you'd want to be in a relationship with, whatever the root cause of their behaviour.

But you’ve already got a sense of what the problems are. What confidence can you have in your lay persons diagnosis? And what are you going to do with it?

I would like to know, and avoiding people isn't always possible!

Maybe.

What is it you would like to know OP? You already ‘know’ their behaviour. What actual difference would having a label for it make?

Apart from validating your feelings that is.

just hide the thread if it's annoying you. I can't exactly ask anyone in rl so am asking here. that's it.

Not annoyed, just (like other posters) are trying to understand what you want.

Honestly though

The behaviour you’ve described would be very worrying. What difference would them fitting an ASPD diagnosis make?

People are asking why because it is a very very small leap from the armchair diagnosis (empathy) to sympathy and trying to help/fix.

There is a lot to be said for over simplification with people like this - just deciding they are bad and leaving well alone.

Though I appreciate the point about not being able to completely avoid them, sometimes that is true and it helps to understand them so you can prepare yourself for dealing with them.

if you're dealing with someone like this, diagnosis or not, the best way to handle them usually is plain speaking and no trust. Actually, the very best way is to avoid them but if you can't, then keep your boundaries up.

A bunch of people on the internet can't diagnose anyone. It's not possible. A proper psychiatrist couldn't diagnose someone from a bullet point list which seems to contain a lot of isolated incidents with no context. Yes, maybe this is someone with a personality disorder, maybe it isn't. Either way, it doesn't actually change anything. If they are someone who treats you badly, then that is the exact same if they are doing it because they are sick or because they aren't a very nice person.