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Married to the job

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Ohvickytoria · 13/10/2017 22:45

Whenever I'm asked the question 'so what does your husband do?', I cringe a little. Not through embarrassment, far from it, I'm incredibly proud of him in fact. I just know what's coming next... 'Ooo, I love a man in uniform', 'does he bring his handcuffs home?' 'Bet he's got a big truncheon..' said with a smirk. Then you get the other end of the spectrum with 'jokes' such as 'oh, better watch what I say!' 'has he tapped my phone?' Or 'quick, hide the drugs!'...I've heard it all, countless times.

These days I tend to mumble something about him being in security and leave it at it...

What people don't understand is that it's another way of life. Want to make plans? I'll check what shift he's doing. Are you coming out on Friday? I'll have to see what time he might be home. Is daddy eating with us tonight? Doubt it. Being 'married to the job' is not for the faint hearted. There are three people in our marriage - me, him and the force.

It's painfully difficult to not resent them, this sounds harsh, I know. What I mean is when you have to cancel plans, rearrange work commitments, put the children to bed on your own for the sixth time that week you can't help but have a little resentment seep in. This may read incredibly selfish, maybe it is, but sometimes you just want them at home.

When they're mid a 19 hour shift and you've not seen them for longer than 3 minutes in nearly a week, that's frustrating. The rushed phone calls are few and far between and are often abruptly ended with a 'I've got to go' when you're mid sentence - also frustrating. All the while they're in this 'force bubble' and you're on the outside. It can be a pretty lonely place on the outside and they're so busy with what they're doing, they're oblivious to the loneliness you're made to feel. They don't understand the importance of a simple 'I miss you' text message or how lovely it is to receive a 'are you and the children ok?' whatsapp when you've not spoken to them all day. This is not because they're arseholes who don't care or are uninterested, but because they are so engrossed in their work they forget that there are people at home who actually miss them so much whilst they're submerged in their world.

When he does finally come home, I've learnt not to bombard him. Despite wanting to tell him all the things that have been going on with the children and I over the past however many days, or want to ask him how is day was, I know I have to leave him be for a while. He needs to unwind, he probably needs to eat or sleep and doesn't need me chewing his ear off about things that may seem so mundane and unimportant in comparison to what he's being doing and dealing with. It's hard because he's my best friend and I want to tell him all the things, I want a hug, I'd like some attention but instead I keep it to myself, tell my girl friends or talk to my mum about the weekly happenings - which is counterproductive in a way as that than creates a distance, but why would he want to hear about my Aunty's friend's sisters dog when he's been dealing with some vile serious job on organised crime?

He's rubbish at switching off, his brain is constantly on the go and on the RARE occasion he has more than one rest day in a row, he can't rest. He always has to be doing. Even when he is at home his work phone is going off or someone from work is contacting him about something or other. He's there but he's not there. Sometimes I want to jump up and down and scream 'HELLO! WE'RE HERE TOO Y'KNOW!' (I actually have done this, it doesn't end well) but that's part and parcel of being married to the job I suppose. Even when he's here, he's not here.

Reading this you may think I'm all kinds of ungrateful for having such a hard working man, I assure you, I am not. I am eternally grateful for every extra hour he works, for every penny he earns for our family, for the house we live in and for the lives it's enabled us to lead. I'm simply trying to explain what it's like living it. It's about a healthy balance between work and home life and when you're married to a police officer, the balance is often skew-whiff.

I'm limited in what job I can do and what hours I work as his job dictates that. I'm solely responsible for every school run, morning and afternoon as there simply is nobody to help us other than me. This is tough as I end up working a job I don't particularly like but am stuck there until our children are of an age to get themselves to and from school. I'm in no way wishing their little lives away, but until that point, this is my life and that's the way it has to be. Ironically, he wouldn't be able to do the job he does or work the hours he works if it wasn't for me working around the children. My role as a wife and part-time working mother may not bring in the big bucks, but it is equally as important and I often feel like I have to remind him of this. Which is stupid, as of course he knows this, he doesn't need reminding of this. I'd like to say it's a team effort but I'm sure he feels like he's doing all the hard graft whilst I'm having a lovely time, but truthfully, I would be having a much lovelier time if he was more present and we saw him more.

I think that the hardest thing when married to somebody in the police, you more often than not feel like a single parent. Sports days, dinner time, school discos, stories before bed - you pretty much do it on your own. The children have never known any different, but it's tough when your daughter is in tears and asking if Daddy still lives here as she's not seen him in days on end. It works both ways, I'm sure he'd give anything to be there with them but there will always be a crime to solve, a baddie to catch or a drugs deal gone wrong...

It's mad that when he is actually off, I guarantee, a row will ensue. Maybe it's the pressure of making the most of the time? Maybe it's adjusting to him being around as the children and I have such a tight solid routine just the three of us? Maybe he doesn't know how to properly relax? Maybe he has guilt for wanting to relax but knows there's a whole list of jobs he'd like to be doing round the house but simply can't be arsed after working a 100+ hour week and why the hell should he?! Or maybe it's all of the above? I wish it wasn't that way, but sadly, when he is off the world can't just stop. There's always somewhere to be, something to do, a child needs dropping off or picking up and we can't fully enjoy that precious family time together. It's like we forget how to be a couple as we're so used to living as separate people. Again, frustrating and also pretty sad.

Sometimes I wish he had a 'normal' job, a 9-5 - home every evening and weekend - kind of job but he would hate it. His job is like a part of him, it doesn't define him as such, but it's all he's known since he was 18 and worked incredibly hard and already achieved so much at a young age. That makes me proud. He makes me proud.

The hardest part to swallow when you're married to someone in the force? You feel very low on the priority list. I'm not, and deep down I know I'm not, but on many occasion it's made me feel that way. At hospital, where is he? At work. Meant to be going out with friends, where is he? Stuck at work. That Saturday I'm meant to be working, yeah can't do it, he's at work. It's those times that it's frustrating, it's those times you're made to feel like the bottom on the list of priorities as work comes first. Me, my job, my plans....the police comes first. You just have to remind yourself that everything he does, he does for us. All those extra hours, he does for us. Whether it's to pay for a new house, a birthday, Christmas, new dining table...it's all for us. It just seems wasted as I know he does it all for us, but what's the point if he's hardly ever here to reap the benefits of all his hard work?

I hate that his job causes friction, I hate this his job makes me resentful at times but it doesn't mean I'm not grateful or appreciative for it. Being 'married to the job' is accepting the long hours, accepting the tiredness, the shifts, the never really switching off from it...It's about being accepting - which I fully admit I'm not always accepting of those things. I married a man whom I love, I didn't marry his career but as I said earlier, there's three of us in this marriage and until the day he retires, there will always be three of us. Accept it and crack on or don't accept it and walk...well I'd rather have the little crumbs of him that I do get than not have him at all. So I'm happy to share him, I just wish I didn't have to share him as much...

OP posts:
Dancinggoat · 14/10/2017 17:56

Friends husband works 14 hour days as the work is needed to be done and the need to keep a business going. If it goes through 50 people loose their jobs so they all work like this. He works in industry. Another works weekends for same reason but is in the building trade. It unfortunately happens everywhere.

timeisnotaline · 14/10/2017 18:03

I don't rate this. My dh is not more important than me, he is my children's father and if he couldn't sometimes prioritise me and the children I wouldn't be interested.

NellWilsonsWhiteHair · 14/10/2017 18:57

There are all sorts of things going on here and lots of people have already said insightful things, but as a single parent this part of the OP jumped out at me:

I'm limited in what job I can do and what hours I work as his job dictates that. I'm solely responsible for every school run, morning and afternoon as there simply is nobody to help us other than me. This is tough as I end up working a job I don't particularly like but am stuck there until our children are of an age to get themselves to and from school.

Is this actually the case? I'm also limited in what I can do because I need to be the one who drops off and picks up at both ends of the day, every day - but that's why I pay someone else to get mine from school. Sure, I can't do shift work, but I have a reasonable degree of flexibility in the work I can go for given that my child is off my hands from 8/9am until 6pm (and with advance notice, the childminder can keep him longer/overnight on occasion). There are loads of jobs which are absolutely off limits still, yes (and sometimes I work late into the night at home after putting my son to bed) but there are also many, many options which are viable within those constraints.

I do genuinely appreciate that sometimes solutions just can't be found, it depends where you live etc, but I would think on this one a little more if you've not gone through it carefully already. I think coping with 'mopping up' around someone's v demanding job, and continually re-producing their labour for them, might be less absolutely draining if you also had an equivalently fulfilling career. I'd find it fucking soul-destroying to be putting so much effort into facilitating my partner's job if that meant I had to spend years and years in one I hated. Actually I don't think I could personally get past that resentment.

Not sure if there is some projection going on for me - an ex of mine was a prison officer, which I think is a field with similar issues, and I really really struggled with a lot of that stuff. The intensity of their work. It was like another world which I couldn't quite relate to and which occupied the uppermost part of their mind pretty much all of the time.

Sarahisthename · 14/10/2017 19:30

CoyoteCafe -
of course lots of industries work very long hours - however my post was to demonstrate the type of work the OPs husband was doing ... sometimes it’s not easy to switch off . Sitting with a dead body for hours , reviewing child abuse images , walking through an estate where shit is thrown at you from a tower block isn’t quite comparable to boardroom or building site pressesures ..

Also OP doesn’t work - her DH working lots of overtime- is this to make up for his pay cuts ? Not the same if your high pressure job gives you a financial bonus you can use for a nice holiday..

OP - please don’t think I’m posting to be critical of you ... you deserve more support and you need to be straight with him that he’s a parent too and needs to step up ...
I just wanted to demonstrate to those that say - lots of people work long stressful hours and it’s no different

StealthPolarBear · 14/10/2017 19:41

The op says she does work

Sarahisthename · 14/10/2017 19:47

Oops my bad - sorry OP - actually even harder when you’re trying to hold down a job too 💐

CoyoteCafe · 14/10/2017 20:04

@Sarahisthename I have been very straight with my DH and he has changed because our marriage and our children are important to him. Every one else we know in his industry is divorced (some several times).

"just wanted to demonstrate to those that say - lots of people work long stressful hours and it’s no different"

No matter what happens when a person is at work, even if they are in war and see people die, and even if they have to kill people, it is not an excuse to be a shitty spouse. It just isn't. Any other view sets up the supporting spouse to be in an emotionally abusive relationship. There are still boundaries.

And if the supporting spouse puts up with it, they are raising their children in a dysfunctional family. That doesn't make them a martyr or a victim or a saint. It means they put placating their spouse over what is best for their children.

Your view of the business world lacks any humans. My DH deals with child porn, cancer, PPD, marriage problems and so on because sometimes people look at child porn at work and have to be fired, people get cancer and need time off work, men need to stop travel/overtime or take time off because their wife is losing it and can't be left safely with the children, and so on. The more people involved, the more stuff is going on all the time.

Why do you need to play "who has it harder?" That isn't supportive to anyone. There are things are more difficult about business such as the random international travel and supporting projects in different time zones. There are other things are much, much easier no one is trying to hurt or kill my DH when he is at work. None the less, IRL, I find I have a lot in common with military moms. (partly because we've all been uprooted and lack support systems, the same kind of solutions tend to work for us).

Your view supports the idea that some how all of this SHIT is Ok if the person's job is one that you value. It isn't. It is still just shit, and putting up with it doesn't make you a martyr.

Sarahisthename · 14/10/2017 20:15

CoyoteCafe

The fact you glibly use the term ‘child porn’ shows you really don’t have a clue
It is not PORN
It is child abuse
Sorry to derail OP

barkinginessex · 14/10/2017 20:33

I really feel for you OP, you don't sound selfish at all. You and your children have needs too.
I think your DH will regret his lack of attention and will wake up and realise he knows nothing about his wife and children (especially when they have grown up).
His work sounds important but he needs to dedicate equal efforts to his family.

ohvickytoria · 14/10/2017 20:45

I do work, I work 30 hours a week. I do have to work around the children as the way I see it, the children don’t get to see him much, I want to be there morning and afternoon, not a childminder.
And please don’t think I’m some timid hard done by staying in little mouse, far far from it!
I’m strong, opinionated and fully know my worth not only as a wife but as a human!
I should also stress that despite not being present as much as we’d like, I can never knock him as a father. He’s absolutely wonderful with the children.
My post wasn’t me slating him or my life choices, I was simply venting at what it’s like to be the one ‘home’ whilst your OH has a career with long unpredictable demanding hours. If he really was a total prick, I wouldn’t have been with the bloke for 14 years!
As my post said, it’s a way of life and if you’re not living it, it’s hard to get your head around it.
Funny enough I showed this to one of my bestest friends who’s husband is also in the police (same rank) and she said it was like I was reading her mind thoughts it was that accurate.
I just wasn’t a ‘ready? I’m about to slate the crap out of my husband’, it was more of a cathartic vent!
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OP posts:
Creampastry · 15/10/2017 08:01

Hopefully he is st a rank where he gets paid overtime. If he’s going last minute overtime and cancelled rest days, he’ll be taking it in. Better than doing shed loads of overtime with no pay.

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