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Shortening names

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guinnessguzzler · 13/10/2017 13:02

We have a close family member who, after a long, long time of feeling there is something 'off' with his behaviour, I am finally starting to see for what he is. I know many think it is an overused term but I really do think 'narcissist' describes him better than anything. I have spent years trying to accommodate this person, trying to support him in a range of ways, struggling with his controlling nature etc and never really understanding what was going on. I think the nature of it is that even now I have a much better idea that he is basically a very selfish and self absorbed person who will never change, there are still times I have doubts and wonder if I am being unfair and putting unnecessary boundaries in place, imagining manipulation where there isn't any etc. In those times I try to hold on to clear examples of the bad behaviour to avoid getting sucked in but I still have my doubts.

He has a particular quirk which is that he always uses shortened forms of people's names, even when they themselves use the longer form and so does everyone else they know. It is not name calling, just regularly using a non-preferred version of the name that no one else uses. I just wondered if anyone else has come across this and whether you also see it linking to selfish behaviours and a pattern of 'I'm special' thinking?

I am probably making massive leaps and little sense, this sounds so silly written down! Dealing with someone who acts like they're perfect and causes untold damage to those around them is so exhausting and I spend far too much time trying to figure him out. I think I'm most of the way to answering my own question in that it doesn't really matter if this is classic narc behaviour or not, if his behaviour is unacceptable then it is unacceptable whatever the reason and whether or not anyone else sees it but it really can be crazy making especially as I normally take people at face value (perhaps a little naive).

Thoughts welcome!

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persephone2013 · 13/10/2017 13:06

shortening names is diminishing

persephone2013 · 13/10/2017 13:07

Making you smaller - or feel smaller

guinnessguzzler · 13/10/2017 13:25

Thanks, Persephone, it actually feels great to hear it's not just me imagining this as a thing.

I should say, mostly the people he does it to don't object but it feels like he's trying to create the impression that he has a better relationship with them, is closer to them, than he really is. I hadn't thought of it as literally diminishing, which I think it is in a few cases too, especially with some of the children in the family.

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FizzyGreenWater · 13/10/2017 14:49

Oh yes.

I see what you say with false matiness, but there is another interpretation which I have seen time and again with the same 'type' of person who does this.

It says 'I'm choosing not to pick up on YOUR cue - how you introduce yourself - and to give you the respect of using the name you clearly prefer for yourself. I'm subtly telling you that either you're not important enough to me for me to take any notice of the details regarding you, or that I get to choose here - I always choose - and if I prefer to use something different, I will. I'm the boss.'

fredericapotterslawyer · 13/10/2017 16:00

Names are important. On a separate, but related note, I've read that abusive men rarely use their partner's names, choosing to call them a generic endearment instead - sexy, gorgeous, baby - because to them, all women are basically interchangeable. When I thought back to men I'd know in the past, it was true. And this sounds like a similar thing.

guinnessguzzler · 13/10/2017 20:32

Thanks, guys, that's so helpful. Just the feeling of it's not just me really helps. Will keep up the boundaries!

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calamityjam · 13/10/2017 20:38

Its always bugged me that Jeremy bloody Kyle does this.

Slaylormoon · 13/10/2017 20:46

I agree with pp! But also want to add it also counts if someone deliberately calls you the long/formal version of your name.

I remember telling an ex once that the only time anyone ever called me my actual real name, was when my mother was annoyed with me or previously when my now deceased father would phone me.(Along the lines of being called Katherine but going by Kate, except not those names at all iyswim)

Imagine my displeasure when he started calling me my full name when displeased with me! I soon put a stop to that. It's deliberately trying to force you into a subordinate position, you're not crazy for not liking someone calling you the wrong name!

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