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Do i want too much or is this enough??

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Shiningstar30 · 29/09/2017 09:56

I have been with dp for almost 8 years. I am 31, he is 35. We have one dd age 3.

We have what i would say is a lot of problems.
One main problem is lack of affection. This seems to be a constant sticking point. He has never been great with affection from the start, intimacy yes, affection not really.

My dp finds it very hard to show affection, he is just not the "type". Some background i should mention. He is one of 5 children. His dad left when he was about 5. His mum fell into depression after this and showed little to no interest in them as children. He has told me before his mum never said love you, gave hugs or kisses, put them to bed and tucked them in or once told him she was proud of him etc. His sister who i am also close to has confirmed this.

A typical day for us would be him going to work in the morning he gives me a kiss and says love you. He will give me a kiss when he comes home from work and then before bed. But it all just feels very robotic, there is no passion to it, no spontaneity.

For all the lack of affection towards me he more than makes up with it with dd, constant affection kisses, cuddles, i love yous. He is great with her. So he obviously knows how to show it, he just chooses not to.

There is also a lack of sex. He would be happy with it once a week. This has bothered me for a long time but no matter how many times we discuss it or argue about it it stays the same.

We dont sit on the same sofa together. He comes home from work and we eat dinner and talk then i put dd to bed and we watch tv, on separate sofas. He just says he likes to relax and stretch out on the couch after working all day.

Another source of our arguing is around the fact that we have been together 8yrs but he hasnt proposed. At this stage in the game i had no doubt in my mind that i would be married he knows my feelings on this. Everytime i bring it up he says we will...whats the rush (8yrs i know i laugh at that too!!) Then i say when?? he says next 5 years.

He shows affection in other ways..ie if i go out he would tidy the house and make my dinner. He would do this before actually giving me a hug etc. Its just his way of showing that he cares.

We argue like everyone else, but our arguments can get very heated, quickly. We are both quick to react and have called each other for everything at one time or another. Our arguments mainly consist of me getting upset about most of the above or him not showing me support. But we have been over the same thing so many times that he just says now if you're no happy you know where the door is, just leave.

We have spoken about the future and have BOTH agreed that we want to try for another baby next year but i dont know if thats what i want to do when i am unhappy with the way things are at the moment and the fact that things will not change in the future. Am i wanting too much or just not getting enough?

Counselling is not an option. It is something i have mentioned in the past and dp has flat out refused.

OP posts:
Isetan · 29/09/2017 10:28

You really need to let go of the 'our relationship would be perfect if he was more this and that' because the this and that are a part of who he is.

He isn't broken, he just isn't the person you want him to be. Talk of a child is crazy, it sounds like one of those 'we've been together this long, so we might as well', type of decisions.

After eight years, this is who he is and if you can not accept him for who he is, then your resentment will only grow and poison your relationship.

You can love someone but not be compatible in areas that are important to you. You need to decide if the things you're not happy with, are a deal breaker?

Isetan · 29/09/2017 10:32

If he refuses to go to counselling then the balls is effectively in your court because he's basically telling you that he doesn't want to be different.

Ttbb · 29/09/2017 10:33

I'm afraid that the lack of attention and a proposal are sonething that you have to just accept-you can't force him to do these things. I wouldn't stay in a relationship like that but you have a child so I guess it's too late. If he still hasn't married you when she leaves home for uni then you could leave him then.

Creatureofthenight · 29/09/2017 10:38

If that's how he's always been then it's a bit unreasonable to expect him to change. It's down to you - are you able to live your life without more physical, spontaneous affection?
As to proposing, how would he react if you proposed to him (assuming you'd want to)?

AttilaTheMeerkat · 29/09/2017 10:46

"I wouldn't stay in a relationship like that but you have a child so I guess it's too late"

Nonsense. Too late for what, to leave?. No, never. Its only too late to leave when you are yourself dead!.

OP - why are you together?. What do you get out of this relationship now?. Are the issues you are not happy with a dealbreaker in their own right?.

What do you want to teach your child about relationships and what is she learning from the two of you here?. After all you are her blueprint for future relationships; you are her main point of reference.
Would you want this type of relationship for her as an adult?. Well no you would not. Therefore stop showing her that this relationship is still acceptable to you on some level.

Do not bring another baby into this dysfunctional mess of a relationship; another child will only widen the schisms that already exist between you and this man. If you want marriage ultimately you will need to find a man who wants to marry.

He is very much a product of his own upbringing but he does not want to change nor seek help into enacting real and positive change; he just wants to continue to do the same old. He's basically showing and telling you as much and he is happy as he is. There will be no marriage in your future to this man. He is also sending your DD mixed messages by being openly affectionate with her and not you as her mother.

Branleuse · 29/09/2017 11:01

Youre perfectly aware of what he is offering you and what he is bringing to the table. I dont think you are wrong to want more, but youre wrong to keep hassling him about who he is as a person

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