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Depressed DH offload!

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BillyWilliamTheThird · 23/09/2017 17:53

Right, I'm offloading as, right now, I have no one to talk to in rl.

DH suffers from depression, has done for about a decade on and off but has got worse in the last couple of years. His depression manifests as anger a lot of the time which is obvs horrible for me and the DCs (DS8 and DD6). The DCs kind of get it, I've done the "black dog" talk with them.

Today DH woke up in a vile mood but insisted that we all spend the morning together although I offered him the option of me taking the DCs shopping and to the park to give him a bit of time alone.

It was 11.30 by the time we left the house and I realised it was too late to go to our local market where DH wanted to go which pissed him off. Then I said we couldn't have toasties for lunch as the loaf of bread I was making wouldn't be ready and I'd already got rolls out of the freezer. He went mental, shouting on about how we have to always stick to a routine.

Then a minute or two later some boy racer made him brake the car a bit so DH wound down his window and called him a prick. This lad stopped and gave a bit of verbal back, so DH got out of the car and proceeded to have a big sweary row in the street, in front of this bloke's kids and our own (and probably the whole of the village we were driving through, although I don't particularly care about that).

By this time, both our DCs were crying, and DH got back in the car. I must've said something (dunno what, probs along the lines of "WTAF are you doing?") and then he went on one about how I just expect him to be a pussy and take the other guy's shit and it wasn't fair.

Then he pulled up the car and got out and walked off, so we went shopping. He came and found us and waited in the car, but didn't speak to me the whole time we drove home, then went to bed. I've spent the rest of the day dealing with my kids who are pissed off and emotional after watching their father lose his shit.

Today isn't unusual, although he has been a bit better the last couple of weeks. He's been having counselling, but it still feels like his depression is another member of the family, holding us all hostage. We tiptoe around him, but his temper goes from 0-60 in about 2 seconds flat. He's never violent, but he often calls me all the names under the sun - in front of the DCs - when he's angry (admittedly, he has been better about this recently, until today).

I understand depression, I really do. I had PND after both DCs and I suffered with it at uni too, with panic attacks and anxiety so I do know what it's like. I'm sympathetic to DH's mental health but, my god, he is hard to live with. His ADs (Sertraline) make him really tired and he has no sex drive. They fuck up his appetite and his bowels, but he's been on them for ages and last time he tried to come off them it was hell. I can't leave him as I don't have enough money and, besides, it's not his fault he is ill. I wouldn't leave him if he had cancer.

I worry about the effect DH's anger is having on the kids (DS already has a tendency to get overly aggro when asked to do something he doesn't want to do). DH is responsible for most of the childcare (I'm a FT teacher, he works PT) and I worry about what things are like when I'm not around. DS asked me what DH used to be like before the black dog this afternoon and it nearly broke my heart remembering how happy DH used to be. I wish the kids got to see him like that more (he is still like it sometimes, but not much).

So really, that's it. Although if anyone has any tips for surviving a partner with depression, I'd be glad for them. Thanks for listening.

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Squeegle · 24/09/2017 10:14

I also have to add I was brought up in a family where my DF suffered depression. He was very volatile and unreasonable, we had to tread on eggshells around him and it felt like my DM put him first always and us second always. She was just trying to keep the peace, but it made bother my DB and me grow up to feel our feelings are less important. Hence my staying with a very difficult partner for far too long. I'm still a people pleaser althoughore self aware now. But it does have an effect on the DCs, I'm sure it's better for them to be separated from the volatility. Even if you just live separately rather than divorce, at least the atmosphere is calm.

BillyWilliamTheThird · 27/09/2017 20:30

Wow. Thanks for all the replies. Sorry, I didn't return because I needed to have a good think, and a talk with DH, also work, life, etc...

It wasn't complicated. On Saturday night I offered him a deal. I said that if he's feeling shit, and needs to be alone, he needs to say. I will respect it, and just leave him be, and take the kids out and do something nice. This on the understanding that if I tell him he's being an arse, and he's not welcome, then he accepts it and fucks off to be on his own. There will be no more of him calling me a "fucking idiot". Ever. And next time he has an argument in the street, I will drive off and leave him, regardless of where we are.

I also told him he was to go back to the doctor and change his ADs, and talk again honestly to his counsellor, and stick to the above or I would leave him. He was very, very apologetic.

So on Sunday he was trying to be nice, and failing. He was being a right twat. I offered him the option of staying at home while me and the kids went out on our bikes but he swore he wanted to come, wanted the exercise etc. I walked out to the car as he was literally screaming and trying to jam the bikes in the boot and yelling at DS at the same time. Told him to calm down, got a mouthful of shit. I told him either he stays at home or I do - both DCs crying by now - so he stomped off into the house and we had a lush afternoon in the sun.

Came back to cooked dinner, clean house, and an apology.

It's not perfect, but it's progress. And he started on Prozac today. It was really heartening to read all your replies. I think he has used the depression as an excuse for his tantrums. I've been saying for years he needs to get off his arse and get some exercise, perhaps changing the ADs will make him less tired. He's also changing his early 5am starts so he can regulate his body clock a bit better.

We'll see how we go.

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BillyWilliamTheThird · 27/09/2017 20:43

Mrkaplan your approach is now my Get Out Plan. I've had my financial and childcare plans organised for a while now, but I dither about how and when.

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celticmissey · 27/09/2017 21:10

Well done you- it's definitely a step in the right direction. My other half needed to try 3 different doses of Ad's before getting to the best one. He also tried mountain biking mainly in the woods and loved it as he said it wore him out, was nice and peaceful and he didn't have to talk to anyone. I too have walked away from him - last time on holiday when he was having a meltdown over a broken parking machine. Told him calmly to shove it and walked away with my daughter and had a lovely afternoon. Returned later to hotel where he then apologised and was super nice. The strategy of leaving them to it definitely helps, the last time I did it he asked why I had not asked him along but then commented "No I know why you haven't". This strategy has worked well for me and I clearly draw the line in the sand. Always tell them if they're being an arse. I remember thinking one day that I wished there was a manual telling you how to live and cope with somebody who suffers with depression but there wasn't one. Best of luck with everything and remember you're not on your own in having to come up with strategies on how you and your children can avoid getting dragged down when they are having bad days Smile

DPotter · 27/09/2017 21:30

MrKaplan's experience is so similar to mine. Yes - there may very well be depression, but that's no excuse for shitty behaviour. With my DP, it seemed the shitty behaviour took over from the depression and became The Way of Behaving. We too had the 'buck up your ideas or one of us is leaving talk', and to be fair he did get his act together pretty quickly, which I feel is 'proof' that he had control but was choosing to be a shit, rather than the depression making him a shit, if you see what I mean.

I also stopped covering for him, which I'd been doing for years on the misplaced view that his depression was his story to tell, not mine.

cestlavielife · 27/09/2017 22:44

Read Anne Sheffield on depression fallout
Set ypur boundaries
Get help for your dc
Arrange breaks away ftom dh or for him to be elsewhere

You and dc dont have to put up with shouting and arsehole behaviour just because it appears to be due to depression.

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