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Emotional abuse?

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elisaveta · 21/09/2017 20:40

My mother has been depressed for as long as I can remember, and never really reacted to things in the same way as other mothers seemed to. Because she was unhappy she was sometimes violent and very angry. I'm listing some of the things she would do to try to work out if we were emotionally abused. Maybe labels don't matter and maybe it's not helpful, but being very anxious has made my life difficult sometimes and I'm now being medicated for it and trying to work out where it comes from. Was this abuse, bearing in mind that the hitting happened in the 70s when people did hit their children much more?

She washed my mouth out with soap when I was 4.
She walloped me when my sister got bad grades when I was 8.
She tried to whip me with a metal-buckled belt when I was 10. My sister intervened.
She grabbed my nose and twisted it when I failed my cycling proficiency test when I was 10.

She hit me round the head with a shoe for failing another exam when I was 11.
She called me ‘liar’, ‘spoilt brat’ and ‘bitch’. She said I smelt (I didn’t). I was lazy and a disappointment.
She read my private letters and diaries.
She laughed more than once at my pubescent body. She pulled open my nightdress to see how big my breasts were and pulled down my pants to see if I was growing pubic hair.
She humiliated me repeatedly in public, by shouting at me and making me cry.
She forced me to do activities I hated but which reflected well on her. Church. Church youth group. Church music weekends.
She told me that my Dad would die young of a heart attack from working too hard and it would be my fault for being selfish, when he gave me the money to go on a school trip.
She hid my money and asked where it was to see if I’d tell the truth about having lost it.
She broke my possessions by throwing them in fury to the ground.
She tore my books in half because she was furious I was reading Enid Blyton when I was eleven.
She was furious when I said I was reading Pollyanna at the age of 8 because she thought I was lying. (What we read was a big deal, because she thought we should be cleverer than everyone else because she thought she was.)
She told me I looked ‘ghastly and really very odd’ without makeup.
When I got a bad report she rocked back and forth on the ground sobbing and saying she was old (she was 45).
Even though my sister was allowed to choose her own clothes, I was not until I left home for university. (She has terrible taste in clothes). If I didn’t like the clothes she chose, she told me I was spoilt, ungrateful and hurtful.
She kept saying she would walk out of the front door and never come back.
She told me she hated her children. She said she should never have got married and had children.
She asked me to be her mother.
She told complete strangers that I was square and frumpy. (this was true – because she made me wear the clothes she chose!)
When I got the best exam results in the year she was really pleased right up until the moment that we bumped into the pretty, slim girls from my year. Then she switched and told me how horrible, and scruffy and odd I looked, and how I should be more like them.

She could also be very loving – she often said sorry and said she hated herself for it. She was kind when we were ill and would read us stories. She was kind to homeless people. She was very kind to other people who were ill. She used to buy me special sweets if I had a lot of revision. When she knew I was working hard she would cook me breakfast in bed on a Saturday. If I did look nice, she was genuinely pleased.

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beesandknees · 21/09/2017 20:49

She was physically and emotionally very abusive to you. I am so sorry you went through that. It must have been horrific.

Of course your mother will have had her good points, and I'm sure there were times she hated herself for how cruel she realized she'd been. But that does not make up for her treatment of you.

It being the 70s doesn't excuse it. Yes children were often spanked back then - but you are not describing spanking - you are describing your mother inflicting physical pain on you, in anger, in a way that was designed to be humiliating and frightening for you. That is not spanking / corporal punishment that was given in the spirit of calm correction (which, even if it was, imo is not acceptable anyway) - that is rage-driven, morally bankrupt child abuse, it is plain criminal assault.

The purely emotional stuff is even worse though. The things she said must have cut you to the core and made you feel desperate. I am just so very sorry she did and said these things to you x

Apileofballyhoo · 21/09/2017 20:50

Sounds like full on abuse. I would say my DF was abusive and he wasn't half as bad. He also could be very nice if you were sick.

EasyToEatTiger · 21/09/2017 21:49

If you haven't come acrosss this already you may find it helpful napac.org.ukSome people are just terrible parents. It all sounds horrible. Flowers

elisaveta · 21/09/2017 22:17

Thank you all - you've been very kind. It didn't feel right, but for so long it was just the way it was that it seemed normal. I'll try that website easy - thank you xx

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EasyToEatTiger · 21/09/2017 23:25

Yes we do normalise things. By the age of 10 I was tearing my hair out and I had big bald patches. Had I known that a rope around the neck is more effective than around the waist I would have done it. My eating started to go horribly wrong when I was about 13 and I was told as a 19 year old that it was much more likely to kill me than any amount of smoking or drinking. At the moment I am in a shit relationship and the police are involved. All these wonderful MNers have told me I have to leave. I normalised what what was going on at home in my marriage as well. Now I need to leave.

I hope you find some support at NAPAC. At least it is helpful to realise that you are not alone!

elisaveta · 21/09/2017 23:50

Oh god, easy, that sounds horrendous. I'm so sorry. I hope things get easier for you very soon. It was so kind of you to answer when you have so much on your plate Flowers

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CoyoteCafe · 22/09/2017 05:02

Abuse: physical, emotional, and sexual. Being forced to undress and being laughed at is a form of sexual abuse.

It was normal for parents to spank in the 70s. It was not normal to hit them round the head with a shoe.

I'm sorry you are going through this.

SomeBerryJam · 22/09/2017 07:32

I'm sorry op. I only read halfway through your post, and the very last paragraph. I couldn't get over the shock of the stuff she's done. Clearly abuse. I see her as being nice as a guilt thing to try and make herself feel better, not you.

So sorry you've had to go through thisFlowers

elisaveta · 22/09/2017 13:28

Thank you coyote and berry. It was kind of you to comment.

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