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Not sure where this post should go? Abuse/incest/other victims/scared. Don't know what to do

11 replies

Flammingstar · 19/09/2017 01:34

Hi everyone
I have a pretty horrendous moral conflict going on and I dont know what the bloody hell to do it anything. It is so confusing after trying to 'deal' with it for so long and it coming up to bite you in the backside and bringing to the forefront how open and vulnerable not speaking out has left other people.
The guilt that I feel is consuming.....what ir he has done the same to someone else?.
My parents were very young when i was born. Both sets of parents very religious and did not believe in bringing a child into a relationship where the parents were not married..... as a result my father and mother married when she was 4 months pregnant with me.
There were no further siblings and from what I have been told my father was physically abusive with my mother. Apparently when I was a baby he beat her and my grandfather up then fled to Germany or the Netherlands..
I was only approx a year or so old at this time. Approximately 9 years later he was remarried and returned to the UK. He pleaded with my mother to allow accces and she did. I had weekend contact with him and his wife for a while.
A while later his (dutch) wife left him and returned to the Netherlands but contact continued with him alone.
It was shortly after this he initially took me back to the home (not unusual).and asked me if I wanted to watch a film. I sat down on the sofa with him as a soft porn film started and he started to touch me. I was 12 at that point.
I had only just started my periods, had only just started learning about sex education in school and was very young and niave. He took my virginity that day and continued many times after that. I was.frightened out of my mind and I was too scared to tell anyone.
I told a friend when I was 15 just because I needed to offload and when I got the courage to tell my father to do one when I was 16 and i told my new/first bf before I could face having sex with him when I was 17.
At the point the bastard was abusing me it was the 80s and the adverts etc about aids/Hiv were alllll over the tv and everywhere.
My father made no secret of the fact that he was sleeping with everything that moved at the time and i got so paranoid that he had given me a std or aids.
So I went for tests with my then amazing bf as support. I lied to the doctors at the clinic that an ex had cheated and I was worried.
Those days you had to wait a week for the results of aids tests and it was hideous.
Those days that was a guaranteed death sentence because there was no treatment to deal with it.
After the results came back clear I was 30s relieved and glad to put it all behind me. I was having a hell of a hard time trying to reconcile what had happened in my own mind, deal.with it and try and get my head together somehow without thinking of the consequences or of other people..
Through the years I have dealt with it by or thinking about it and with counselling which has helped me a lot..... I haven't wanted to know where he was or what he is doing etc. A few years ago I learned from someone that he was working in Gemany again.
However a few months ago I was casually looking at a video of a school acquaintance on Facebook. It was her wedding video and as she walked up the aisle the video shows the guests in the background.
It was clear that it was my father with the bride's mother on his arm.
I felt so sick I don't know how i didn't throw up. I was so shocked.
I have since sent the bride a fb message saying that he is dangerous and evil. My worry is that the bride has a teenage daughter from a previous relationship and she has many siblings who also have children some little one's..
In my message I spelled out what he is like and told her that under no circumstancesis he to be left alone with any of the children.
She stated that she knows what he is like and she hates him. She has tried several times to get through to her mother who herself has been a victim of his violence but refused to do anything. The aquantance is scared for her and doesn't know what to do. Apparently she has been told what the evil bastard is capable of but refuses to leave him or to kick him out or press charges etc.
It is a realdifficult situation because it is almost 30 years since he did what he did to me.. I do not want to 're live what happened as i dont remember a lot and i dont want to go through it. Plus I am not emotionally strong enough to do it. On the other hand though I can not get out of my head what he could be doing to the lady who I have mentioned kids and her nieces and any other children.....and what other children he has had access to in the last 30 years or so.. as far as I know he didn't have any other children after me.
Any help or constructive advice would be good. I am not sure that I am strong enough to go thru the police and cps questioning me and saying that I am lying or something.
Forgot to add that my parents were 16/17 when they married and had me.. they split when I was just over a year old i think.
He always told me the usual that I must not tell anyone about our special relationship, that my mother would hate.him even more than she already does and would ensure that there would be trouble and it would be my fault..

OP posts:
just5morepeas · 19/09/2017 01:41

I don't know what to say op, as I don't have any experience in this area. But I didn't want to leave you without a response.

You've been through so much and so strong for so long. I hope you find the answers you're looking for. Flowers

mumofone580 · 19/09/2017 01:55

Report him!!! As hard as it is, it will heal you and prevent anyone else from going through this nightmare! You are stronger than you realize. You have survived this, you have been working at healing yourself from this despicable excuse for a human. Others will come forward if you do, and if they don't, you have saved someone else from this monster. Much love and light to you!

Flammingstar · 19/09/2017 02:03

What if I am not believed or they say not enough evidence?? I don't want to go through it. I've had a shit time in life and I don't know if I can cope with it ?

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Rhynswynd · 19/09/2017 02:12

I have someone very close to me who is going through something similar. He is in his 30s now and went to the police and was treated 100% as a victim and believed. He was actually relieved that the police treated him so well and he could begin proceedings against his abusers. Talking to us is a great step OP and it is testament to your strength.

katiegd · 19/09/2017 02:54

Hi OP, what an incredibly difficult situation to be dealing with. You're very brave to write it all out here.

I don't know where you live, but in England and Wales you could get in touch with an Independent Sexual Violence Advisor (ISVA) who is there precisely to help you with decisions like this. They'll be able to give you advice about reporting including telling you realistically what it might be like. They can also support you to report if you choose to do so and the whole way through the process. They are independent and focussed totally on you.

To find one, just google 'Independent Sexual Violence Advisor' and then your area, or you could also look up your local rape crisis. If you're not in England/Wales, there should still be a rape crisis or similar near you who can hopefully offer support and advice.

Posting on here is a good first step - take your time to decide what you want to do and what is best for you. Flowers

Talkedabout · 19/09/2017 03:31

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onemorecupofcoffeefortheroad · 19/09/2017 08:09

I've replied on your other thread but wanted to add that other victims may come forward if there's a police investigation. He may have been a prolific abuser.

fluffydogs · 19/09/2017 08:24

Gosh it all sounds horrid. I was in a very similar situation but it was my uncle. I did nothing until a I was in my late 20's, I was moved to act as I had a similar feeling that now grandchildren were in the picture it could easily be one of them and I just couldn't bear the thought of that happening to another person and ruining their lives like it ha mine.
Long story short I eventually told my mum who was actually great and acted not how I expected (I thought she would brush it off as she's a head burier) anyway we spoke to the police who were amazing, they were very sensitive to the matter, I never felt that I was thought to be lying etc. He was arrested. He actually admitted it which was a shock, his reasoning was that "I was a pretty little girl" Wanker!!
Anyway after that it emerged that it wasn't only me, my sister and my cousins had both been abused.
You CAN do this, you ARE strong enough. Please go to the police. Good luck.

Flammingstar · 19/09/2017 08:54

My apologies, somehow i managed to post this 3x last night........my phone was playing up and I just kept hitting the send key because i thought it was not working!!
I am sorry for the confusion. I have asked MN to remove the other 2 threads.

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debbs77 · 19/09/2017 09:12

I didn't want to read and run. But just wanted to say that to have even posted here is incredibly strong and shows how wonderful you are!!! Could you take this thread to the police to show them? Then you don't need to say the words at first xxc

Offred · 19/09/2017 10:10

Oh my! You are taking on so much responsibility that is not yours to take.

You are not responsible for protecting everyone in the world from him. Your first duty is to yourself.

I do think it is worth speaking to rape crisis and/or victim support about reporting him, what it would be like, what the local police are like at investigating it, how long it would take etc.

I think it's perfectly ok for you to then say 'no, I need to take care of myself and I can't face reporting' but equally many people find that the reporting process, though hard, is one of the best types of healing.

Whatever you choose you need to give yourself permission for it and remember it is his choice to be abusive. It's not your fault or your responsibility to protect others.

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