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Feel depressed meeting other mums

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Hallabaleeps · 01/09/2017 07:56

I moved area last year just before I got pregnant. It takes about an hour to get to visit most of my friends so I still see them but they mostly don't have kids and I only have one friend who lives within 30 mins of us, so I wanted to try and meet some new mums after my baby was born. did NCT and go to the children's centre and have met some nice mums. It's just ultimately made me feel quite depressed. I find myself sitting in these discussions with people talking about what holidays they want to go on, what latest thing they've bought for their baby and how they don't like their cleaner and it feels so superficial. I try to bring up other subjects but it usually ends up boomeranging back to the babies. I feel bad about being judgemental I just have that feeling of being lonely in a crowd IYKWIM. I also really don't want to judge criticise or compare babies which I feel is often what starts to happen. did anyone else have this experience as a first time mum? at the moment I'm kind of happier by myself, but I feel like I don't fit in to this new world and it gets me down

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user1497997754 · 01/09/2017 08:02

What about a local mothers and toddlers group. Are you a single parent...

BigGreenOlives · 01/09/2017 08:04

What are your interests? Do you remember what you liked doing before you had your child? Try & find adults who like doing what you enjoy doing & that way you'll make new friends. It's a cliche working as a volunteer somewhere once a week will help expand your circle and help you find like minded adults.

DadOctave · 01/09/2017 08:08

I second that, I think my wife's best mum friends came from play mornings etc, local churches often run them. Seems hit and miss with NCT groups, some of our friends who live away have great down to earth groups. I know the mum's and dad's from our group 2 couples are down to earth, the rest are very superficial, keeping up with the Jones's etc we've even met cool people just down the park/play centres

2littlemoos · 01/09/2017 08:09

That sounds rubbish OP.

I stopped attending the "chat and a cuppa while the children play" groups a long time ago. I hated them!

I started going to groups which are parent participation such as Toddler Sense, Baby Ballet etc. That way I didn't have to have long and somewhat forced conversations.

I also found that each time I went there would be a few minutes where you could chat to a mum next to you, or my toddler would play with another toddler so I would talk to their mum.

It was always general chat which gradually built to more and once summer term arrived we have made efforts to have park/play dates and, for an introvert, I never expected to make mum friends and it is lovely. Of course not everyone I chatted to has become a friend though! You win some you lose some Wink

Just give it time OP. Try different groups. You will find mums that feel just like you FlowersBrew

Sorry for the long post!

Mumof3wunnerfuls · 01/09/2017 08:34

Hi

I have never enjoyed these groups and I've been a mummy for 11 years. I have three children and I've always tried it again and felt the same.

However I have taken all my children to Monkey Music which all loved and it's far more interactive.

I'm not a woman who enjoys gossiping and leaving my kids to get on with it at toddler groups. I like to be involved with my baby/child and do things together

Where in the country r u?

Argeles · 01/09/2017 08:49

I absolutely hate all of the superficial talk too, but where I live it's really hard to even make it to that stage.

Many of the other Mums in my area of London come from other countries and come to playgroups/clinics etc in groups with other mums and children from the same country as them. I have nothing against them doing that, and it's lovely that they have friends, but they stay in their groups and speak in their own language all the time (again, I appreciate why). I have tried on numerous occasions to speak to many of these women, and my DD always tries to play with their children, but the mum's language ability is usually very poor, and the toddler's non existent and they go back to the safety of their group.

When I have managed conversations with the women mentioned above, it stays at small talk or basic chatter about our children, and sometimes they do not understand what I am saying at this point, so it's very hard to speak about much else, as I do not want to make anyone feel uncomfortable.

Apart from the women mentioned above, the rest are snobby, cliquey white British women who wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. I am a white British Londoner, but no way do I feel at all at home with these women. They look you up and down, or completely ignore you like you're invisible. I see them doing it to the groups of women speaking in other languages too, so it's not just me they're like it with - it's really nasty.

I've tried to speak with them, but straightaway the chat will move on to brands of pushchair/car seat/nappies etc, what car they have, baby yoga, gym sessions, organic produce blah blah blah. I cannot stand this kind of talk, especially when you've only just met someone, but they are using it as a judgement tool. Both sides quickly drop the 'conversation' and then I'm left feeling incredibly isolated again. They are so unfriendly and unapproachable and when you do speak, that's what it's like.

I managed to make 2 'friends,' from another country. We only knew each other for a few months but met up regularly. Their English was quite good, and we used to cook dishes from our home countries for each other. They were both lovely, but we were more like acquaintances than proper friends, and both have now moved back to their home countries so I'm back to square one anyway.

I've pretty much given up on making proper friends in this area now after over 2 years of trying, but it's frustrating and still really gets me down.

My DH refuses to move to the area of London where I'm from and where my family and friends live, as he hates it there. He expects all amenities on his doorstep 24/7 and only likes fully gentrified areas, which my old area certainly isn't. It's much more affordable than our area, contains my family and friends, and also has a community atmosphere, in which people of all backgrounds mix together.

I wish I could advise/help you in some way, but all I can do is get off my chest how I feel about the whole thing, to let you know that you're not alone in your experiences. People tell me that I'll make friends when my DD starts nursery or school, but I'm just so resigned to my situation that I don't believe it'll happen.

ChilliMum · 01/09/2017 09:01

I think a lot of us go through this. It just takes some of us longer to find our people.

Nct can be very pot luck, my group were lovely people, glad to have them to share the early days but no-one I clicked with and not really in touch with any of them now.

I did however meet some fab mum friends at different activities as dd got a bit bigger. I chose activities as someone said earlier where focus was on the child not parents making friends so just a quick chat at arrival or end. Takes longer but I found people that I love who I had more in common with than having given birth.

Hang in there op and get out to a real range of activities. You will find your people Smile

RainyApril · 01/09/2017 09:40

Well not every mother in the world wants to talk about babies, holidays and cleaners.

So either it is early days and these women, having not yet progressed beyond a superficial level of acquaintance, are sticking to superficial topics for now, or these few women are simply not your type and you need to find a different group.

What sort of topics are you trying to turn the conversation towards?

Hallabaleeps · 01/09/2017 12:01

Thank s everyone for taking the time to share your experiences and suggestions, it means a lot. I've decided to try out a bunch of groups and just say yes to invitations for now to see how many people I can meet, plus make the effort to stay connected to my exhisting friends!

Angeles thank you for sharing your story, Sounds like you've been having a tough time too. I'm also in London and also moved away from the area I had lived in for years (not from London originally) to somewhere the other side of London and also very gentrified and don't feel totally at home, not enough hipster idiots like me here Smile. I hope things improve for you,, judging by the conversation here I think it happens to a lot of us and just takes time. Best of luck and virtual hugs to you. Thanks for making me feel less alone today

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exhaustedmumof4 · 01/09/2017 13:44

I had exactly the same issue, when I became a mum I felt I had nothing in common with the other mums- as time went on and I had more kids and met more mums I slowly found my people, I.e people I want to see outside of our children. Took awhile and I have kind of a disparate group of friends now rather than a #squad- one mum from NCT, one who is a friend of a friend, a couple of school mums. I try and accept invitations where I can, I went to the cinema with a group of mums I don't normally socialise with, they're ok but they spent a lot of the meal slagging off other school mums which is not my vibe, so won't go out with them again although happy to chat in playground etc. I don't know what I'm trying to say except I feel you and why on earth do we expect ourselves to get on with another woman just because they're also a mum? It's hard making friends as adults and mums included! All it takes is 1 likeminded person and that is enough to keep your sanity afloat. Good luck!

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