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Conflict with inlaws, how to move forward

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JumpingJaack · 25/08/2017 06:50

I've name changed to try to avoid being outed so my story may siund familiar as I've posted about this before.

DH & I married at 22 and I had a reasonably good relationship with my inlaws until I fell pregnant with my first DC just after my 24th birthday. What became evident is that the only reason we got on is because I'm a people pleaser and on reflection, they loved this. Anyway, once I fell pregnant, they began to have loads of opinions on everything. The first conflict was over our choice of godparents which they were unhappy with. Once DC1 was born, the problems worsened. I chose to breastfeed and it was extremely tough as DC1 was very colicky and would often feed for comfort but she would also throw up whole feeds so I fed on demand which meant i spent a large amount of time feeding her. She gained weight perfectly though and had even gained weight by 5 days old. MIL was calling DH and telling him I needed to FF as I wasn't producing enough milk. She was calling him all the time saying this. I basically quickly realised that I was never going to be able to please them unless I did everything the way they wanted and there was no way I would do that. MIL was doing things like lifting my baby out my arms and at one point took her off me about a minute before midnight at new year. I didn't ask for her back because I thought, she wouldn't do this. Surely she knows I want to cuddle my firstborn at the bells, surely she'll give her back, but midnight came and she did not.

Anyway, there is so much more to the story but I think you'll get the gist. Basically DH called MIL and FIL and told them about the things that were happening which were upsetting us. This is when everything went south. FIL was devastated by my husbands phone call and MIL went off the phone and refused to contact DH for a whole month and when she did, she just acted like the phone call never happened. They took no ownership of any of the issues and we were just expected to move on without resolving anything.

That was 3.5 years ago. Basically his parents have been very cold to me ever since. We live in a different county to our families so I've continued to take DC to see inlaws when we visit, even though it's not the nicest atmosphere to put myself into. They are civil to me but there are still many problems. They undermine our parenting frequently but DH pulls than up for this. We now have more than one child and my parents have a bigger house which massively accommodates us better. I have a chronic illness where stress is a contributory factor so while we're visiting this time, we've decided to stay at my parents.

My MIL called DH and said she was hurt we wouldn't be staying with her and if we have a problem with them we should just say. DH said it's because of my health and moving from house to house with DC is harder work but we'll do lots of day trips. They aren't happy about this.

I find it a bit of a joke that she's said we should just say if we have a problem. We tried that and it's made everything worse.

I want DC to have a relationship with them, despite how I've been treated. Should we just try to not stay at their house again but continue to visit and never really have a sit down conversation about our issues? I think if we try to sit down and explain things with them, it'll make everything worse and could result in DC never seeing their grandparents and DH never seeing or talking to his parents again and I don't want that to happen. Is that the best way forward? When they question why we're never staying should we just say it all boils down to my health, which is true, and just not mention all the other stuff?

I really appreciate your help with this.

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RandomMess · 25/08/2017 07:13

I think you need to pick a more neutral statement and stick to that.

"Staying at X works best for us" Don't be surprised if long term you end up no contact but that is their loss not yours.

Other phrases such as "That doesn't work for us" is a good one too. At every opportunity DH needs to present you as a united package hence using "us"

ememem84 · 25/08/2017 07:20

Absolutely it has to be "us" and it has to come from dh.

The minute it comes from you you'll be seen as controlling.

SandyY2K · 25/08/2017 07:28

They know what the underlying issues are, so just continue saying what your DH has and let him talk to them.

Don't ever back down with interfering in laws.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 25/08/2017 07:45

I would suggest you read "Toxic Inlaws" written by Susan Forward to further understand the power and control dynamics that your ILs are playing out here.

Being people pleasing as you are has indeed played right into their hands, you really do need to address your people pleasing because it is harming you and in turn your family unit who are being exposed to your toxic inlaws.

Its not your fault or your DHs that they are like this; their own families of origin did that lot of damage to them.

You probably come from a nice family, well certainly a family of origin not at all like your DH's. You cannot however, reason with people like his parents and whatever you say and do is not good enough for them.
The writing was on the wall re his parents as well long before you became parents too.

I would urge you to now put proper mental distance between you and they because these people are emotionally harmful and will hurt you given any and all opportunities. They are not nice people to be at all around; its their way or no way as far as they are concerned.

"I want DC to have a relationship with them, despite how I've been treated".

That's really not a good idea at all. You need to examine your own reasons a lot more, through counselling if necessary, as to why you have that view.

"Should we just try to not stay at their house again but continue to visit and never really have a sit down conversation about our issues?"

It should be a given now that you should never stay with them again. Your own boundaries re his parents have been far too low to date and they have taken full advantage of your own people pleasing tendencies.

Re this comment
"I think if we try to sit down and explain things with them, it'll make everything worse and could result in DC never seeing their grandparents and DH never seeing or talking to his parents again and I don't want that to happen"

Why?. Think about it. Is this your own people pleasing behaviours talking here?. Would that scenario really be a bad thing given their behaviours towards you as these childrens' parents?. They are not healthy people, grandparents are good for the children only if they are emotionally healthy themselves and clearly these people are not. They have not been at all nice to you as their DIL and would have acted the same regardless of whom he married. Your DHs boundaries seem to be a bit better re them in that he does now tell them re their behaviours but its still not enough and those need to be further raised. He may well have some FOG (fear, obligation and guilt) of his own still re his parents to deal with. Would you have tolerated a friend talking to you like this, I would think not. Family are no different.

Both of you have to present a united front when it comes to his parents. You both need to be on the same page here and currently at least you are not.

Do read "Toxic Inlaws" written by Susan Forward to further understand the power and control dynamics being played out here by his parents. He could also read "Toxic Parents" written by the same author.

Staying away from them altogether will help your family unit.

Tilapia · 25/08/2017 07:52

It's good that DH stands up to them and that you and he present a united front.

Personally I would continue as you are doing. Make sure you see them when you are in the country - it's ok to stay with your parents for the reasons you give, but stick to your promise of seeing them often. Be polite and civil but don't let them change your parenting decisions. Try to detach and let any criticisms or rudeness go over your head.

HappylandToysEverywhere · 25/08/2017 08:01

What's wrong with you watching Porn??? I've never been against any of my previous partners watching it?

MothershipG · 25/08/2017 08:26

@happylandtoyseverywhere wrong thread maybe?

OP you've had some good advice you and your DC deserve to be treated with respect.

Whocansay · 25/08/2017 08:32

Didn't you have another thread recently?

I don't understand why you just aren't honest with them. You say it will get worse, but pussy footing around the issue isn't going to change anything. You don't necessarily have to confrontational.

They are cold and unwelcoming towards you. Why would you stay with them at any time, let alone when you're ill?

You are still being a people pleaser. This is one of those times the person you need to be pleasing is you.

HappylandToysEverywhere · 25/08/2017 09:09

Yes sorry wrong thread. Having some issues with the App jumping around. Apologies!!!

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