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An open letter to the other woman.

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Leiaemily · 24/08/2017 20:49

AN OPEN LETTER TO THE OTHER WOMAN

Its been a year. A year since my relationship fell apart. All those years of hard work, love, heartache, all that effort that I put into that relationship had evaporated in seconds that day.

I'd just given birth to my second baby boy. My first with my boyfriend. It was one of the happiest times of my life. Being in the hospital with the man I loved, bringing his child into the world. Watching him look at his son in awe. It brought us together. Or so I thought it did.

We were ready to take him home, but then he was taken away that day to the special care unit with a heart problem. I was heartbroken, scared. I'd already gone through this with my first son, watching him for weeks wondering if he's going to be okay. Not that you would know that.

The day we got the all clear to bring him home, I was ecstatic. That was it, my family would be complete. It lasted all of a day. The following day, I discovered you.

I didn't have a gut feeling this time. I genuinely thought everything was perfect.

Being in a relationship with someone in the army is hard. It's lonely. It sets off my anxieties and my depression. But I put everything I had and risked my mental health to be with this person because I loved him. Throw in a pregnancy as well and it's even harder. He wasn't there for much of it. That wasn't his fault, but it's the truth.

Our relationship mainly existed by phone. He was away a lot. Of course, you would know that. I was so lonely. I used to wait by the phone 24/7 just to get his call or text. That even took over the majority of my days. His messages felt special to me. They were all I had when he wasn't here and I was missing him.

But all the time, he had you.

It was the second day that our baby had come home from hospital. We took him to see his grandad for the first time. It was special. I used his phone to call my mum. My phone had died. He followed me to the garden. He stood over me while I was on the phone. I hung up and there you were. Months worth of conversation. Kisses, cute nicknames, photos of my new born son. You were a stranger to me. But somehow you knew everything. He was so nice to you. Nicer than he ever was to me. But I used to think that was okay.

My heart stopped. I felt it. All of a sudden, everything I felt in that hospital became a lie.

He used to stay at the hospital all day. Then he'd go home and leave us there. When the baby was in special care, we used to take it in turns to go to the hospital as I had another son to take care of. All that time, he was talking to you. He'd come home after leaving me and his son and speak to you.

All those times I would wait for him to contact me, he'd be speaking to you.

He was distant from me. But not with you. You were his second woman. You were his go to woman. Not me. But I was carrying his child.

To you, it was just talk. He probably made you happy. You made him happy, not me. I wasn't enough anymore.

Did you even know about me? Maybe you knew everything about me.

That day I found you, it smashed everything to pieces. My happiness went. He left me and his child. I was in pain. Emotionally and physically from the birth. I couldn't even pick the baby up because I was in so much pain.

To you, it was probably just talk. You're probably thinking, what is she kicking off about? But I know there was more to it. I know women. I know men. But it was the months of lies and deceit.

After he left, I got sick. I lost my mind. I became a danger to myself. I would hallucinate. I was convinced that someone was out to steal my children and that they weren't safe. I became mentally unwell for months. I was traumatised. One minute I had everything, and the next minute I had nothing. He still spoke to you while I was going through all that. He probably never told you how much I suffered and put my children at risk. It was frightening. I didn't know what I was doing, it was like I was another person. I fell apart. This caused my mum to have a breakdown. She was off work for 3 months because of what happened and how much I lost my mind. Everyone was collateral damage.

Eventually, he came back. It was never the same again. My trust had been broken for good. For the best part of a year, I didn't understand what it was. What this relationship you had was. If it was just a friendship then why didn't I know about you? I had no idea. But then recently someone explained to me. They explained why I hurt so much. It was an emotional affair. He may not have physically cheated on me, but he was dedicated to you. The other woman. You knew more about him than I did. I was merely a woman who was carrying his child.

I think about you every day. I've seen your photos. You're pretty. You're everything that I'm not. Sometimes I wish I was you, because you probably got to know him better in ways that I never did.

I want you to know how much damage the pair of you caused. To me, my children, my family. Your 'affair' with my boyfriend had a knock on affect on a lot of people, not just me.

I will never get closure. I will never trust again. To you, it's nothing. To me, it's everything. My 6 year relationship has been damaged and pushed to its limits.

I've been told not to blame you and blame him. But you talked back. I would never dream of having such an intense relationship with a man who had a pregnant girlfriend. Did you ever stop to think that it was weird? Did you ever stop to think what I would think about your relationship?

I reached out to you after he left and you blanked me. I needed answers. And I never got that from you so the pain lasted even longer to the point where I lost my mind and my sanity.

I hate the fact that you just carry on with your life like nothing. I'm writing this in the hope it gets to you one day and you know what damage you both caused.

My relationship will never be the same again. My son will never have a happy mother and father like I wanted. You caused that.

I hope that one day someone hurts you as bad as you both hurt me.

I will never get that time back with the birth of my son. It's been tainted by me discovering you.

I hope that when you become a parent one day you will look back on this and understand my heartache and how important those moment and memories are.

OP posts:
cowgirlsareforever · 24/08/2017 23:07

I hope you can be happy again one day OP.

Nadinexo1 · 24/08/2017 23:09

I think the OW is just as much to blame as the partner. How can a decent human being knowingly do this to another person. I think you're fully within your rights to feel the way that you do. I do hope that you can get through this, you are worth so much more than how you've been treated. you deserve better.

1DAD2KIDS · 24/08/2017 23:15

I could have easily wrote something like that to the OM who helped (with my ex) rip our family apart. I know everyone around me says my ex is to blame and this is true. But I can help but feel so angry towards the other man. He knew she had a loving husband and two lovely young children. But yet he still perused her and had his selfish way with her and then used her (they are no more together). He is to blame too and I am still so angry at him too for his part in all of this this. Now it is just me, the kids and the memories of what was once a lovely marriage and a lovely family unit.

Stay strong. You are not alone. There are many of us out there.

Booboobooboo84 · 24/08/2017 23:16

The 'OW' isn't to blame at all, she was just talking to a friend. Men and women can be friends easily. It's not all about sex and desire. Your DH should have given you more attention but even then I'm not sure having a friend is such a crime. You don't have the right to demand anyone's attention

CharlieBoo · 24/08/2017 23:30

I could've written your letter at one point. I think we all could and I'm sure everyone on here understands and empathises with how you feel about her. How she has behaved is utterly utterly low.. you were pregnant and then had your baby and she knew.. your husband was sending her pictures.

However, she could've been anyone. She is entirely irrelevant really.. if it wasn't her, it would've been someone else. The anger eats away at you and it feels like your life has been 'stolen' from you. But it wasn't stolen, your husband pissed it up the wall, he betrayed you in the worst possible way at the most beautiful and precious time of your lives.

Anger is an emotion we all go through but acceptance brings peace...letting it go isn't easy and I've had counselling and you may want to consider this. You've been through such a lot.. Flowers

Nadinexo1 · 24/08/2017 23:46

if a man who was not available was messaging me on such an intimate level I would ask him to stop since I have been brought up with morals and principles and to be a decent human beimg. it's not that hard at all and if a man is sending me photos of his newborn child and speaking to me on the phone right before and after his child's births then I would ask him to concentrate on his partner and child. I think anyone would have enough sense to know that t it's wrong so yes the OW IS to blame too.

JAPAB · 24/08/2017 23:49

However, she could've been anyone. She is entirely irrelevant really.. if it wasn't her, it would've been someone else.

No doubt there are people who just wake up one morning and decide that they want "an affair", and if the first person they ask says no they'll just move on to asking the next candidate.

But surely there will be plenty where the specific person is entirely relevent, because the affair is wanted with them, and if they had said no that would have been the end of it?

rosabug · 25/08/2017 00:24

You sound so vulnerable OP. Been through this myself recently. I hope you find some strength as at the moment you have had it knocked out of you big time. I wrote many (not sent) messages to the OW, though mine were vicious! I will say at the risk of disturbing you that I don't believe the "emotional affair" business, not for a second. If he's still saying that in therapy you may have a problem. I don't know where this term came from but it's crap and makes a handy minimising tactic - taking the place of "just friends". If you are young I would seriously consider the option of leaving. No man is worth this heartbreak and continued pain. I agree with previous poster - takes a special guy to cheat on his pregnant partner.

Leiaemily · 25/08/2017 04:26

Just found out he fucked someone two months ago.

OP posts:
MeredithLogue · 25/08/2017 05:55

Cut your losses and get rid.

Gorgosparta · 25/08/2017 05:57

Oh Op i am so sorry.

I get the letter. You know its your Partnee that is to blame. But this letter is to her.

Is it her he slept with or someone else? Do you want to talk about it?

Isetan · 25/08/2017 05:57

I'm not buying it, the OW is an obvious but nevertheless, convenient target for your pain. What does 'dealing with my partner' actually mean? You've already admitted to not really discussing it with him, so what's the rationale behind that?

I'm so sorry that this has happened to you and I can't imagine how painful it was and still is but 'sacrificing my MH to stay in this relationship' is a deeply worrying statement because sacrificing your MH, especially for a relationship, should never be an option. Sacrificing your MH for your relationship didn't and could never, insulate you from betrayal.

I've never really understood the desire to hold the OW to some weird 'sisterhood' standard, whilst simultaneously having low expectations of the man you're in a relationship with. It's as if the OW hadn't been around, then somehow your partner wouldn't have been led on/ chased/ hounded into cheating. It's more of this 'men can't help themselves' bullshit that so many women and society buy into, so as not to make men completely accountable for their actions.

To my knowledge I've not been cheated on but I can remember, separating my ex's poor behaviour from him. This compartmentalisation allowed me to stay in and fight to stay in, a relationship with a man who wasn't right for me. It took a break up triggered by DV, more DV and a relationship post-mortem for me to stop treating his pattern of behaviour, as isolated incidents. I was so invested in being in a relationship that I never really question who I was in a relationship with. The man that you love isn't separate from the man who cheated on you.

I think you should re-address your letter to the OW to your bf and seek professional solo support because you are so much more than your relationship and I don't get the impression that you know this.

BitchQueen90 · 25/08/2017 06:09

OP, you should leave him. He's not a nice person. Flowers

Gorgosparta · 25/08/2017 06:11

I've never really understood the desire to hold the OW to some weird 'sisterhood' standard, whilst simultaneously having low expectations of the man you're in a relationship with

You can be angry at both. For different reasons and have diffeeent levels of anger.

The Op has just found out something even shittier. She is trying to find a way, any way to move past this. Sometimes yiu just have to get it all out there. Even if its not the most rational feelings.

mogulfield · 25/08/2017 06:20

He fucked someone else 2 months ago? And he had an affair with this woman?

Regarding the letter as others have said, she will ignore it and then you'll feel worse. But I see you're not going to send it, it's a nice way to vent though and well written Smile

JWrecks · 25/08/2017 06:23

Wow, all of that, AND you just found out he fucked somebody else?

If you don't mind - what do you mean by "just"? Was that the thing that brought all of this back to the surface and made you need to vent that? Did that come out in the therapy? Or do you mean you just found out, minutes before posting that reply?

Oh OP, I am SO sorry. He sounds awful and cruel. Are you planning on splitting? Is that what your therapy session was about? Do you have plans and support if you do split?

I'm glad you let that all out, and I'm pleased it made you feel better. It does feel good to write things down and just get all those thoughts out of your head and organise them into words, but I imagine it takes it that one step beyond to actually post it somewhere it's remotely possible she may see it. And even if she never sees it herself, maybe somebody who needs to see it could come across it, and maybe your words could prevent this kind of pain for somebody else. At least there's that.

Flowers
reallyanotherone · 25/08/2017 06:24

*Yesterday 23:46 Nadinexo1

if a man who was not available was messaging me on such an intimate level I would ask him to stop since I have been brought up with morals and principles and to be a decent human beimg. it's not that hard at all and if a man is sending me photos of his newborn child and speaking to me on the phone right before and after his child's births then I would ask him to concentrate on his partner and child. I think anyone would have enough sense to know that t it's wrong so yes the OW IS to blame too.*

Lovely that you have such high standards, but you have no idea what he was telling her.

The relationship is over, i'm a good man that is going to support her while she has the baby, it was a one night stand, she onows the relationship is over, it's just the baby. Once she's past the newborn stage i can be with you. Even she knows about you and is ok with it.

Men who have affairs are very good at apinting themselves as the good guys. The ow can often be just as much the baive victim, but for some reason we always want to believe they're the ones who break up the marriage, not the men.

Mulch · 25/08/2017 06:30

Why are you staying with him after all that? Never mind writing letters get angry at him

melonscoffer · 25/08/2017 06:53

I am seeing the reasons the OP write her letter and will give her some support.
It is horrendous for her and I admire her strength.

She doesn't seem to know if the OW was aware of his pregnant girlfriend.
Her Mum has not been strong for her either but let her down by also having a breakdown.

Maybe she said a few phrases that aren't entirely fair e.g. "you caused this". Can't say I noticed until people picked her up on it. Surely we can let the odd phrase go and just be sorry that this has happened to her.

Well done OP for going to the counselling, well done for gaining a little foothold back into sanity.
I wish you a swift journey into some sort of peace . Keep your wits about you with that man of yours.

chips4teaplease · 25/08/2017 06:58

Beautifully written. There's a career there...

The 'other woman' owes you nothing. Write to the father of your child. You don't need therapy with him, you need to stop accommodating his lifestyle. Throw him out.

melonscoffer · 25/08/2017 07:02

OP , after typing the above message I see that things have significantly changed.
I am assuming you found out this morning.
You have my support , try to hold on to your strength and if needed get some relevant medical help if you feel yourself slipping into any mental health crisis. Its important to do that today as there are minimal services at the weekend.
Put yourself first, don't immediately worry about deciding if and how to leave him , you're health comes first.
He is a very silly man and will lose you and his child.

HarryElephante · 25/08/2017 07:05

I'm not looking for a dust up of any kind, this is purely an outlet for me to find some form of closure. And do you know what? Now I've written this, I feel a damn sight better

Did you feel better for writing it or for posting it in here? I get the writing for sure, it's an excellent outlet. I'm not sure I get the posting of it, though.

whiteroseredrose · 25/08/2017 07:11

Dear God, he's done it again? Same OW or someone different this time?

(I assume it must be OW again otherwise why write to her now)?.

In your letter you say that he's nicer to her than to you, and he's done it again. Why do you want to hang onto such a dickhead so much?

Ledkr · 25/08/2017 07:13

You wouldn't be feeling this bad if you hadn't have stayed with your cheating partner.
That was the main reason I didn't do the same.
I knew I'd have the rest of my life tormenting myself and living with self doubt.
Instead I chose to split up and had a few months of ever decreasing pain instead.
Is that an option for you?
I'd highly recommend it.

SandyY2K · 25/08/2017 07:20

He's a serial offender. Time to cut your losses and just have a coparent relationship with him.
There are better men out there.

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