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Parents' drama getting me down

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thisfamily · 24/08/2017 11:34

3 hours on the phone with DM complaining about dad's behaviour and denying what she said the day before we left after a week at theirs'. She went through a long list of negative behaviour that my DC did., told me I was not a good mum. Dm told DD she can not come back. DS said he does not want to talk to them anymore.

DM tells me she does not remember exactly what she said. That's a classic, and I expected that is what she would say. She said she was far too tired because she had several lots of grandchildren one lot after the others. She was indeed tired. She was also stressed out because the children slammed doors a shouted and this would cause my dad to shout instantly at the top of his voice. I felt dragged back into the old childhood dynamics: we were all walking on eggshells all the time.
My children are not used to it and 'trigger' him all the time. I tend to nag them more and in return they become even more boisterous.
I am tired of mum's nastiness, which always comes when I least expect it. I said t DM that her behaviour and dad's might drive me away. She cried and said she knew she would end up alone. so much drama.

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thisfamily · 25/08/2017 10:10

auntyelle I can relate to being an easy target to dump the negative on. That's exactly what my mother does. I have listened to her unload her bag of sh* since the age of 12, telling me how impossible it is to live with my dad and what a martyr she is.
Offred, you went through so much. It sounds you manage contact in your own terms. It made me smile when you said your mother prides herself in a 'successful' marriage. My parents' Christian friends have always supported my parents staying together, because with the love of God and the right support anybody can do it. WTF? This is denying the abuse going on and that damages the children.
I have always been a disappointment to them and I will remain.
I always had a rebellious streak ( I just say things as they are) and I am a divorcee, having fled an abusive relationship, (he was so much like my dad on so many levels) but they remained friend with my ex' family.
I can see my mother reproducing the same toxic dynamic on my children where my son poops gold, middle daughter is acceptable but the little one is just well...naughty...difficult and not welcome.
It is difficult as they don't live in England so there is the added cost of the journey, which makes me want to get my money worth.
I envisage future contact as limited. We will pop in for the weekend, try to meet with my brother, sister ,and nephews and further our holidays away, it is costly as I am a single mum on low income. I might leave one of them as they would manage better with one. Sadly, as we are due to go for Christmas and it is usually one big party but dad blows his fuse constantly as the children are hyper in the house. I think we will give it a miss.
My children are now with their dad so I am not sure how they feel about the whole holidays after mum said those nasty words to us and dad was 'en forme' with amazing 24/7 shouting and blaming.
I had a year of honeymoon with mum, where she acted and spoke decently and dad would go away when he felt angry. But I have to acknowledge that it is who they are and they will not change.

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thisfamily · 25/08/2017 10:17

By the way thanks for answering, I still cried over it last night and I often wonder why they can't simply love me as I am.
It's good to have support of people who understand that dynamic.

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Offred · 25/08/2017 10:33

Yes, my house backs onto the golf course and their house is almost visible from my bedroom window across the other side of it we live so close.

I want the kids to develop skills and understanding to deal with them TBH, I'm glad they all seem to be imposing their own boundaries. DTS just doesn't want to spend time with them whatever is on offer. DD tells them what for and can walk home easily from their house if she gets stressed, thought through carefully whether she could cope with two days etc, DTD is just very easy and sweet so she never has a problem with them, DS doesn't like them and just pests them to buy him stuff or take him places 'because they are rich' and I basically leave it to them to decide whether they give in to it.

I never see them, except in passing. I mostly ignore texts etc

Christmas was funny. My kids went to H's house last year, I put my foot down that I wanted to be alone, my dad imposed on me because he was anxious I was going to kill myself (I just wanted a rest) and all my siblings turned up to theirs, they spent all day texting me saying how my mum had taken on too much and everyone was arguing and having a crap time and how next year they are doing what I did.

Offred · 25/08/2017 10:41

My kids have had a lot of practice with ppl like that (crap dad) so I'll tell you what I tell them;

'They do feel love for you I'm sure, it's just that some people are not capable of showing loving feelings in the right way. They are people whose 'loving' function is broken and they think just selfishly feeling a feeling of love or controlling someone else's life is what love is. But real love doesn't work that way, love is a doing word, it is about how you help the person you love feel that love not how you feel the love you have for other people. If someone who claims to love you does things that hurt or harm you it's because their loving is broken not because there is something wrong with you and it's ok for you to feel/say 'this is not good enough''

thisfamily · 25/08/2017 10:59

Offred that's a great way of putting it. I will borrow from you if you don't mind!

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Offred · 25/08/2017 11:30

Yes, absolutely! I've found having children of my own to be very healing. It helps me focus on healing my inner child as well as teaching them skills for dealing with toxic people.

RaspberryMousse · 25/08/2017 22:37

Hi @thisfamily

I can relate to being an easy target to dump the negative on. That's exactly what my mother does. I have listened to her unload her bag of sh since the age of 12, telling me how impossible it is to live with my dad and what a martyr she is.

Sorry, this is what I meant way back at the start of your thread by you being your mum's whipping boy. She is taking all her frustration out on you. Telling you you're a crap mum, pointing out all the 'foibles' of your children. All of which is obviously completely untrue.

Obviously your thread has now moved on and you've had some great advice. Flowers to Offred.

I would seriously consider going NC with your parents. Your mother chose to stay with your abusive father. That is her decision. Your children do not need to be exposed to this toxicity, they are not the kind of grandparents you want them to be. They are clearly picking up on this themselves by starting to voice their opinions about not wanting to go any more. All they are learning is that they have to be on constant eggshells around your father so as not to trigger his anger.

Offred · 26/08/2017 08:28

He's not angry around them. He's only ever been angry once with one of them - the incident I referred to, that was largely because I was there too. He mostly absented himself to do things he wanted to do (as he used to when I was little when we were on holiday) and left my mum to do children's things with them.

I don't really have an option ATM because I am disabled and I'm under a huge amount of pressure from SC to rely on them to help me.

thisfamily · 29/08/2017 20:56

raspberry I am going LC, seeing them 1 or twice a year when my bro and sis are around as we are on the same page.
Offred That's a tough situation to be in, having to rely on them.

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