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Help me make sense of my marriage

19 replies

Whatmarriage · 13/08/2017 21:35

Hello MNers

First post here. Asking you to help me make sense of things in my marriage.

Me - SAHM of one with another on the way. Used to work full time, cut down my hours to part time until eft the job.

DH - works in a high pressure job with long hours and frequent travel. Cares for his parents who live about 15mins away when he gets some free time. He's very attached to them and is the perfect son anyone could ask for. His father was diagnosed with a chronic illness and his health is gradually deteriorating. DH is very close to his father and the diagnonis crushed him. Each time his dad's health takes a turn for the worse it affects DH greatly.

DH comes from a large family and does everything he could to be there for his siblings, whether that be financially or emotional support. His family are very lovely and I've struck it lucky with the in laws I have. Lately there have been many issues with his siblings and he's had to deal with problem after problem. His siblings don't expect him to step in and have never asked him for a penny in help, but DH can't help but feel obligated to help out as he's doing better financially compared to them. They're very grateful for all the support they receive and like I said they're lovely people to be around.

This is where my marriage comes in. As a result of all the emotional load that DH is taking on and his job, he's always tired when he comes home and literally crashes on the sofa. The evening is spent in superficial conversation about the day, etc., and then each person retreats into their own little worlds. I'm desperate for some kind of interaction with him but he finds it easier to spend time in front on t.v. and count down the minutes till bed time. I'm not much of a tv person, and even those evenings that I want to watch something with him he prefers to sit in silence. I can't remember the last time we've gone to bed together. Sex life is non existent. A real, meaningful connection between us is not there anymore.

He spends Saturdays at his parents' place, running errands for them and generally catching up with them. Sundays are 'his' days which he says he needs to reset to carry on into the next week. He doesn't spend much time with our DD as he's always says he's tired and struggles to find the energy to get out of the door. I've long suspected underlying mental health issues but he dismisses it and has never wanted to speak to his gp about it.

I'm genuinely torn between wanting to continually be there for him through what is obviously a difficult period, and wanting a fulfilling marriage at the same time. I don't want to make this just about me. We've been having many arguments lately and i feel that communication between us has broken down to the extent that I'm not even sure about how to bring it up without him thinking that I'm dismissing all the family issues he's dealing with on a daily basis.

Sorry about the long post didn't want to drip feed. I guess it's easier putting my feelings out there and sharing it than keeping it all inside, as I really don't have anyone to talk to about this.

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itsgoodtobehome · 13/08/2017 22:18

It sounds like he is feeling really under pressure supporting you and the children, as well as his siblings. I know you say that you are expecting another child, but once the maternity period is over, could you consider returning to work to take a bit of pressure off him? Or, if you are not working, could you do some of the things that he does for his parents?

Quartz2208 · 13/08/2017 22:21

He is forgetting he has a new family he needs to prioritise, it sounds like he is so caught up in being a wonderful son and brother he is forgetting to bea husband and father

WelshMoth · 13/08/2017 22:27

To me, he sounds on the surface, to be a good bloke. He stops being a good bloke however, when his own family starts to deteriorate as a result of his sacrifices.

Financial problems aside, what do his siblings do to help with their parents?

Hermonie2016 · 13/08/2017 22:39

How's the relationship when you have holidays?

I feel for him as supporting his dad is obviously important to him and I guess he believes it's time limited.
On the other hand everything in life needs balance and he is not investing at home.

How supportive will be be with new baby?

Whatmarriage · 14/08/2017 12:16

He uses holiday time as his away time to get away from it all. He'll be more involved with DD and me but I'm still the one mainly caring and looking after her. His laptop comes with us and he'd rather spend time catching up on his shows than spend the evenings with me talking over things. I've learnt to control what i say and how i approach him but he'll throw the 'moaning' card at me to end the conversation. It's as if he's getting more comfortable in his solitude and I'm always made to feel like I'm intruding on his space Hmm

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Whatmarriage · 14/08/2017 12:18

His siblings do what they can- his sister has now cut down his hours at work to be more supportive around the home. I go over once or twice a week to keep them company (they're v elderly) and help them out with things.

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Whatmarriage · 14/08/2017 12:19

*Her hours at work!

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cheapskatemum · 14/08/2017 13:35

Could you show him your original post? Not literally, I mean, write it out for him. I think you state your feelings in a fair and honest way. If he is the decent man you describe, he would surely take note? I don't think it's fair that you and DD always come last in his long list of responsibilities. As PPs have pointed out, it doesn't bode well for when new DC is born.

Whatmarriage · 14/08/2017 17:52

I've painted DH to be a decent guy, and on the whole he is, but even before the issues with his family he's been increasingly emotionally withdrawn and I feel that he's becoming more so by the day. I'm not able to tackle it because of everything else going on now. Which is why spending quality time with me is seen by him as a hassle (how I feel not what he's said). He'll often say to me that if I'm not happy with his choice of, e.g. whats on TV, that I'm free to go into the other room and leave him alone in peace. I don't feel as if he enjoys my company - even a simple walk with DD or a trip to the park together is a big no-no. And I'm even more concerned about how I'll be able to cope when DC2 is here. I guess putting all this in writing to him could be an option...

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WelshMoth · 14/08/2017 18:57

OP, I'm less inclined towards the 'Good Bloke Struggling' and more
towards bloke who's taking his wife for granted.

His behaviour towards you isn't very nice, is it? How would he feel
If you DID withdraw to another room? What would he say?

Also, who sorts your finances?

Quartz2208 · 14/08/2017 21:19

I'll be honest I don't think you have painted a picture of a decent man I think you painted a picture of a selfish man who cares only about what people think of him

Whatmarriage · 14/08/2017 21:26

WelshMoth I've taken him up on his offer a couple of times (not in an angry way..sarcastically mentioned that it was a better idea) and he didn't even flinch. He acted like nothing happened later. The days in which I make a big fuss about issues like that he says that I'm being selfish and not considerate to him. I really don't know how to get through as he's either cold or pointing it back to me.

We have a joint account for bills and household costs, and him and I separately have our own accounts. He largely oversees finances for more longer term planning and I deal with the day to day stuff.

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Hermonie2016 · 14/08/2017 21:49

He could be an introverted person who is drained by interactions at work so needs am off switch at home.He could be depressed, or selfish or emotionally disconnected..however having a diagnosis is less important than how it impacts you.

You are not happy.Does he care enough about your marriage? I think it's important you 're him and see if he responds..if he doesn't that sadly you have a choice, tolerate it, perhaps my having a separate life, and hope it's gets better or start planning to leave.

A life like this can feel more lonely than being alone.I don't mind being alone but I hated feeling alone when a partner was close by.
Maybe start a journal, it helps to chart what is happening and how you feel.Over time it gave me strength to know life would not change unless I took action.

Whatmarriage · 15/08/2017 13:14

Hermione2016 you've exactly summarised what's going on. At the moment I'm tolerating it and slowly pushing along in the hope that something will trigger a change. We're due to travel at the end of the year and I'm hoping that things will be better before then. I really feel lonely with him, yet when I'm with friends and family it's as though I'm reacquainted with myself again. Thanks for the journal idea, although the idea of being on my own with two children is terrifying.

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MissBabbs · 15/08/2017 13:27

He's an adult he should want to be with DD. I think all these good works is giving him an excuse to shirk his own family responsibilies - perhaps they seem too much to him ( being responsible for little ones) or perhaps he is selfish - being too busy watching tv is an utter joke!

Hermonie2016 · 15/08/2017 14:01

Sorry for all the typos! Our partners are the people we should most feel relaxed with.Since my separation my sense of humour has returned as I wasn't relaxed with ex.Nothing felt easy or comfortable and my confidence was at rock bottom.

Your H doesnt have to put you down to damage your confidence as ignoring you has the same affect..its subconsciously saying "you are not ok, you are not important"

He either cares enough to want to make it better or he can't or doesn't want to.

cheapskatemum · 16/08/2017 07:37

I do think you need to communicate how you feel at the moment to your DH as well as in a journal (so, communicating to yourself) though, because it doesn't seem to me that he realises how he's coming across to you. It's like he can only see it from his standpoint. He's struggling, and that's affecting his ability to cope with anyone else's need (yours, your DD's). How do you think he would feel if he realised how isolated he is making you feel?

AttilaTheMeerkat · 16/08/2017 07:57

What do you get out of this relationship now?.

It seems that his main priorities are his work and family of origin respectively. Is this person a workaholic?. How much caring is he doing for his parents and do his siblings share that workload?. Or is he doing the lion's share of it which could lead to carer burnout. Is it getting to the point really where they as a family unit should be thinking about getting carers in other respite care?.

What is really going to trigger a change here?. Hoping for change may well be a forlorn hope. I do not think that you travelling together will make a hill of beans difference to his overall attitude now; he will still bring his laptop with him and you'll still see mainly to the kids.

You cannot change your H but you can change how you react to him by not continuing to simply tolerate this. He is spreading himself way too thinly here and as a result he could lose you over his behaviours.

The worst thing in life is not to be alone but to be with people who end up making you feel all alone. Do not let the fear of the unknown stop you.

kittybiscuits · 16/08/2017 08:10

He seems to have had you quite silenced with the 'good guy' routine until now. He is absolutely short changing you and your DD. How is he supporting you in your pregnancy? Pulling your weight in a family does not attract kudos or enhance a person's reputation. Running around like a blue-arsed fly at work and in FOO does. He is under-performing practically and emotionally as a partner and parent. It's okay to do this for a while in difficult circumstances, but doing it as a general long-term approach is awful. You sound very muted and sad. I imagine you feel very hurt and lonely and it must be hard to see your DD on the receiving end.

It's time to tell him really clearly how this is for you and see how he responds. As a way of life, it's not tenable.

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